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Brian556



formulanone

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Quote from: Brian556 on September 30, 2016, 10:38:09 PM
This Hendry County Road sign is black/yellow
https://www.google.com/maps/@26.7681779,-81.3588366,3a,15.6y,204.74h,87.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCISjYaHzYvNBrgBgXoSd1A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

We had some debate about it a while back whether it's black or very dark blue...I didn't think about the exact color at the time. On the other hand, a sign shop isn't likely to create its own colors, so it might very well be black-with-yellow text.

Another Hendry County example:



On the other hand, this was definitely black:




Brian556

Yeah, I'm wondering if they just made it incorrectly, using blue transparent film over a yellow background. Here's one in Oakland:


D-Dey65

Quote from: formulanone on October 01, 2016, 10:48:25 AM

On the other hand, this was definitely black:



Speaking of CR 470, I just found out part of Sumter CR 470 in the Sumterville-Lake Panasoffkee area is a State Road now, and Florida SR 48 in Bushnell has been downgraded entirely to a county road. I couldn't get the pictures, because I was driving south and the signs were facing northbound traffic.


emory

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Quote from: D-Dey65 on October 11, 2016, 04:28:11 PM
Speaking of CR 470, I just found out part of Sumter CR 470 in the Sumterville-Lake Panasoffkee area is a State Road now, and Florida SR 48 in Bushnell has been downgraded entirely to a county road. I couldn't get the pictures, because I was driving south and the signs were facing northbound traffic.

I'm having trouble finding the transfer agreement, but here's a years old letter from an Orlando consulting firm.
ftp://ftp.dot.state.fl.us/LTS/D5/Procurement/15558%20CR%20470/LORs/Kittelson%20Letter%20of%20Response%2015558%20-%20CR%20470%20PD&E%20Study.pdf

Looks like Sumter county swapped CR 470 with FDOT in exchange for a segment of SR 48 so the state could maintain a corridor between I-75 and the Turnpike. No updates on the straight line diagrams yet. If they transferred the entire 2+ mile segment then that means SR 48 is now history.

D-Dey65

Quote from: emory on October 11, 2016, 05:45:34 PM
I'm having trouble finding the transfer agreement, but here's a years old letter from an Orlando consulting firm.
ftp://ftp.dot.state.fl.us/LTS/D5/Procurement/15558%20CR%20470/LORs/Kittelson%20Letter%20of%20Response%2015558%20-%20CR%20470%20PD&E%20Study.pdf

Looks like Sumter county swapped CR 470 with FDOT in exchange for a segment of SR 48 so the state could maintain a corridor between I-75 and the Turnpike. No updates on the straight line diagrams yet. If they transferred the entire 2+ mile segment then that means SR 48 is now history.
I can't get that link for some reason.


Brian556

Quote from D-Dey65:
QuoteSpeaking of CR 470, I just found out part of Sumter CR 470 in the Sumterville-Lake Panasoffkee area is a State Road now, and Florida SR 48 in Bushnell has been downgraded entirely to a county road.

In this GSV, dated May 2015, you can see a WEST CR 48 sign, but the reassurance sign still says SR 48. If you turn back time in GSV, the CR 48 sign will still be there. Guess it was an error. GSV does show the overhead on I-75 already saying CR 48 in 2016
https://www.google.com/maps/@28.6690771,-82.1121522,3a,19.4y,219.69h,83.98t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1syYfNZ3iBFfe05mDyrJCWjA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Avalanchez71

Is CR 48 even signed in Bushnell?

formulanone


D-Dey65

Quote from: Avalanchez71 on October 14, 2016, 09:00:59 PM
Is CR 48 even signed in Bushnell?
Mostly east of US 301, and a few along SR 48 by mistake.

emory

Via GSV, I found a couple of END shields at MDX roads whose route numbers don't technically end, and SR 112 signage still exists over in Mid-Beach. "Begin State Maintenance" signs also accompany both.


emory

The Gratigny Parkway doesn't get an END shield like the others. Just a state maintenance sign. Although I didn't know that MDX maintained a stretch of the un-tolled local road, all the way to SR 9. They even have mile markers on NW 119th Street with the Toll-924 shields on them.


Mergingtraffic

are there any state-named I-75 shields around Fort Meyers anymore?
I only take pics of good looking signs. Long live non-reflective button copy!
MergingTraffic https://www.flickr.com/photos/98731835@N05/

formulanone

Quote from: Mergingtraffic on November 09, 2016, 04:56:59 PM
are there any state-named I-75 shields around Fort Meyers anymore?

I'll check my photos from July, but the only one I have is in Naples, on CR 846 and 951.

Alex

Quote from: Mergingtraffic on November 09, 2016, 04:56:59 PM
are there any state-named I-75 shields around Fort Meyers an ymore?

Yes there are some within the vicinity of US 41 Business and Florida 80.

mefailenglish

There was one on 41 the last time I drove past Page Field.  Shows up in Streetview too:  https://goo.gl/maps/zCayLADVAix

Mergingtraffic

I only take pics of good looking signs. Long live non-reflective button copy!
MergingTraffic https://www.flickr.com/photos/98731835@N05/

emory

FDOT intends to relinquish SR 585 to the City of Tampa this month, who will not allow trucks to travel on the local road. A flyer has been made for truckers identifying the new regulated truck routes through Ybor City. https://www.tampagov.net/sites/default/files/ybor-city-development-corporation/files/flyerfortruckroute.pdf

roadman65

http://www.idrivedistrict.com/editorFiles/20150325%20DAB%20Sand%20Lake%20Road%20Improvements.pdf

Pretty soon widening in the area of International Drive in Orlando along Sand Lake Road will commence.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

DeaconG

Quote from: roadman65 on December 05, 2016, 10:46:15 PM
http://www.idrivedistrict.com/editorFiles/20150325%20DAB%20Sand%20Lake%20Road%20Improvements.pdf

Pretty soon widening in the area of International Drive in Orlando along Sand Lake Road will commence.


This one was WAY overdue...
Dawnstar: "You're an ape! And you can talk!"
King Solovar: "And you're a human with wings! Reality holds surprises for everyone!"
-Crisis On Infinite Earths #2

roadman65

Tell me about Orlando is way behind in its roads.  Considering that the developers are way ahead, at the current rate we will be in a total traffic standstill within five years.

All we do is develop and build like jack rabbits, but getting the roads upgraded takes many years to implement plus the fact we are already behind in that by more than a decade. 
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

DeaconG

Quote from: roadman65 on December 07, 2016, 09:26:48 AM
Tell me about Orlando is way behind in its roads.  Considering that the developers are way ahead, at the current rate we will be in a total traffic standstill within five years.

All we do is develop and build like jack rabbits, but getting the roads upgraded takes many years to implement plus the fact we are already behind in that by more than a decade. 

Orlando and the Space Coast are paying the price of "growth for the sake of" and they will never catch up (the widening of 50 out to the Little Econ is probably going to be packed by the time they're done with it, so the backups will start in Bithlo versus Avalon Park; the widening of US 1 in Cocoa has already managed to be almost of no effect in the month since they've completed construction). Throw in the "don't raise my taxes" and the NIMBY crowd and I doubt very seriously you'll see more than band-aids for the local arterials, forget about building new roads beyond what's already in construction.
Dawnstar: "You're an ape! And you can talk!"
King Solovar: "And you're a human with wings! Reality holds surprises for everyone!"
-Crisis On Infinite Earths #2

emory

Quote from: formulanone on October 01, 2016, 10:48:25 AM
Quote from: Brian556 on September 30, 2016, 10:38:09 PM
This Hendry County Road sign is black/yellow
https://www.google.com/maps/@26.7681779,-81.3588366,3a,15.6y,204.74h,87.73t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sCISjYaHzYvNBrgBgXoSd1A!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

We had some debate about it a while back whether it's black or very dark blue...I didn't think about the exact color at the time. On the other hand, a sign shop isn't likely to create its own colors, so it might very well be black-with-yellow text.


Monroe County Roads 905 and 905A are signed using that same design.



Brian556

Quote from roadman65:
Quote
Tell me about Orlando is way behind in its roads.  Considering that the developers are way ahead, at the current rate we will be in a total traffic standstill within five years.

All we do is develop and build like jack rabbits, but getting the roads upgraded takes many years to implement plus the fact we are already behind in that by more than a decade.

I've said this before, I think the biggest problem with roads in the Orlando Metro area is that the arterial streets are too widely spaced, and are not laid out well, and that is an unfixable problem.

Look at the northern suburbs of Dallas, TX as an example of a good layout. In Plano, thoroughfares are spaced one mile or less apart, and are continuous across the city, forming a grid. In Orlando, thoroughfares can be several miles apart, and they are often discontinuous.


Stephane Dumas




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