NYC Roads

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This still there?

[empirestate]

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This still there?

The CR-V? Yeah, probably.

[MikeCL]

Speaking of those signs funny how some signage remains about the Tri-Borough bridge and the replacement RFK

[Alps]

https://goo.gl/maps/rA8byJgZdh32
Noticed this white sign. Looked too new to be original, probably an exact replica - anyone know anything?

[noelbotevera]

https://goo.gl/maps/rA8byJgZdh32
Noticed this white sign. Looked too new to be original, probably an exact replica - anyone know anything?

Yeah, it probably is an exact replica of an older sign. Except for one-offs and replicas, black and white signs date to the 1950s/1960s. Since the bridge was last reconstructed in 1993/1994, I'd say this sign is about 22 years old and the original sign was well over 30 years old. For whatever reason the new sign is smaller (you can tell because of the support brackets around the sign).

[RobbieL2415]

Quick question concerning the toll booths leading to Jones Beach State Park:  are the bypass lanes left open during the on-season?  Or is Ocean Parkway a de-facto toll road Memorial Day-Labor Day?

[Duke87]

Quick question concerning the toll booths leading to Jones Beach State Park:  are the bypass lanes left open during the on-season?  Or is Ocean Parkway a de-facto toll road Memorial Day-Labor Day?

The bypass lanes are always open. You only need to go to the booth if you're buying a ticket to park in one of the lots at Jones Beach.

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http://ny.curbed.com/2016/11/28/13763084/brooklyn-queens-expressway-repair-brooklyn-heights-promenade

The city's Department of Transportation is about to undertake its most expensive project to date, and fittingly it will involve the repair and rehabilitation of one of the city's most hated highways, the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway.

Beginning as early as 2020, the agency will launch a $1.7 billion project to repair a 1.5 mile-long stretch along the highway between Atlantic Avenue and Sands Street (near the Manhattan Bridge), the New York Times reports.

The expressway was built between 1944-1948 and spearheaded by Robert Moses, but in recent years, the highway has come to be identified with potholes, bumps, and it's high crash rate. Earlier this year, the transportation department hired experts to study the conditions of the highway. The consensus? The highway itself is stable but the rebars inside the concrete were starting to corrode and could eventually break leading to emergency repairs.

Part of the section being repaired includes the Brooklyn Heights Promenade, and this has local residents worried that they will temporarily lose a much-loved public space or that traffic from the highway could seep into local streets. The DOT however has ensured that that will not be the case, and that only parts of the promenade will remain closed during the repairs.




What the repairs will do however is increase access to the waterfront, which is blocked off in many areas along the cantilevered stretch of the BQE. This cantilever method was adopted as an alternative to the original plan for the highway, according to the Times. Previously, Moses intended for the highway to cut through the middle of Brooklyn Heights, but that would have led to the demolition of dozens of historic buildings in the area, and as a result it was moved to be along the waterfront.

The BQE's pricey repair will also include work on 21 bridges along that 1.5 mile-long stretch. Most of the costs for the repair will be borne by the city, but NYC is also looking for about 38 percent of the funds to come from the state.

Construction work will take about five years, and while some locals have expressed concerns about disruption, preliminary repair work along the highway has already pleased others. The city patched up some concrete and repaired some road surfaces along the highway, and it's already made big impact for residents in the area, according to the Times.

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[Great Lakes Roads]

You know what else is coming??
That's right! Cashless tolling is coming to ALL MTA-owned bridges and tunnels starting in 2017!
Don't believe me? Well, here is a YouTube video that explains it all!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFjgGfmegIA

It's about time! 

[Mergingtraffic]

Btw, there is a concrete road bed in the middle of the Manhattan Bridge...Wiki says that was built for I-478 to connect to I-78 LOMEX.  However, it also said I-478 between the Manhattan Bridge and the proposed I-78 JCT would be depressed. 

Is that true?
I ask b/c it looks like as the Manhattan bridge is coming down to surface level the median concrete road bed stays high.  It would seem to be a quick rise and fall to meet the proposed depressed section between the proposed junction with I-78 and the bridge itself.

Anybody know?

[dgolub]

http://ny.curbed.com/2016/11/28/13763084/brooklyn-queens-expressway-repair-brooklyn-heights-promenade

The city's Department of Transportation is about to undertake its most expensive project to date, and fittingly it will involve the repair and rehabilitation of one of the city's most hated highways, the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway.

Slowly but surely, they're replacing the entire BQE.

[Alps]

Btw, there is a concrete road bed in the middle of the Manhattan Bridge...Wiki says that was built for I-478 to connect to I-78 LOMEX.  However, it also said I-478 between the Manhattan Bridge and the proposed I-78 JCT would be depressed. 

Is that true?
I ask b/c it looks like as the Manhattan bridge is coming down to surface level the median concrete road bed stays high.  It would seem to be a quick rise and fall to meet the proposed depressed section between the proposed junction with I-78 and the bridge itself.

Anybody know?

It's true, but I imagine the connections at the plaza would look a lot different if that had happened.

[Alps]

http://ny.curbed.com/2016/11/28/13763084/brooklyn-queens-expressway-repair-brooklyn-heights-promenade

The city's Department of Transportation is about to undertake its most expensive project to date, and fittingly it will involve the repair and rehabilitation of one of the city's most hated highways, the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway.

Beginning as early as 2020, the agency will launch a $1.7 billion project to repair a 1.5 mile-long stretch along the highway between Atlantic Avenue and Sands Street (near the Manhattan Bridge), the New York Times reports.

The BQE's pricey repair will also include work on 21 bridges along that 1.5 mile-long stretch. Most of the costs for the repair will be borne by the city, but NYC is also looking for about 38 percent of the funds to come from the state.

Why aren't the Feds kicking in anything? Yes, it's grandfathered Interstate, but it's still original mileage.

[J N Winkler]

Why aren't the Feds kicking in anything? Yes, it's grandfathered Interstate, but it's still original mileage.

It is not clear to me, from anything I have read about this project, that the Feds are not contributing.  NYCDOT also seems to be taking the lead on this project, at least for this phase, although the BQE is owned by NYSDOT.  This burst of publicity seems to be associated with the start of a design contract for the improvements; actual construction will begin in 2020 or 2021 (depending on whether design-build or design-bid-build is chosen), and I am not sure whether construction will be handled by NYCDOT or NYSDOT.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/bqe-atlantic-to-sands-apr2016.pdf

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http://harlemriverpark.weebly.com/harlem-river-drive-flyover-project.html

I didn't know about the original plans for this.  Too bad the NIMBYs got involved.  A flyover would've been nice.

[Alps]

http://harlemriverpark.weebly.com/harlem-river-drive-flyover-project.html

I didn't know about the original plans for this.  Too bad the NIMBYs got involved.  A flyover would've been nice.

That's not NIMBYism. That's environmental justice. They arrived at a compromise that gets improvements built without ruining the urban air and noise quality.

[vdeane]

Interesting... wasn't aware the ramps were being reconfigured there.  Are they moving or adding an exit?  Hopefully I'll be able to keep my website's exit list up to date, but it's hard with NYC...
http://www.nysroads.com/fdrlist.php

[Mergingtraffic]

Interesting... wasn't aware the ramps were being reconfigured there.  Are they moving or adding an exit?  Hopefully I'll be able to keep my website's exit list up to date, but it's hard with NYC...
http://www.nysroads.com/fdrlist.php

I think just making a right hand exit, a left hand exit.

Although finding info for this and others takes some work.

Also Kew Gardens interchange close to being done??

https://www.dot.ny.gov/kgi

[J N Winkler]

Also Kew Gardens interchange close to being done??

https://www.dot.ny.gov/kgi

Nope!  Phase 2B is currently under advertisement.

[noelbotevera]

I'm aware this is in New Jersey, but since that thread might be dead (last post was late November), and this is pretty close to NYC, I feel like this is good enough.

About the NJ 21 freeway, apparently it stops short of I-280. Have plans ever existed to at least complete the freeway to I-280, as Steve Anderson's site is outdated (the most recent date I found while reading was in 2000, relating to the northern extension)? It's a pretty short distance (about 3500 feet), but I heard it was due to opposition.

[dgolub]

I'm aware this is in New Jersey, but since that thread might be dead (last post was late November), and this is pretty close to NYC, I feel like this is good enough.

About the NJ 21 freeway, apparently it stops short of I-280. Have plans ever existed to at least complete the freeway to I-280, as Steve Anderson's site is outdated (the most recent date I found while reading was in 2000, relating to the northern extension)? It's a pretty short distance (about 3500 feet), but I heard it was due to opposition.

Based on where the exit numbers start, I'd guess it was supposed to go all the way down to I-78 and US 22.

[storm2k]

I'm aware this is in New Jersey, but since that thread might be dead (last post was late November), and this is pretty close to NYC, I feel like this is good enough.

About the NJ 21 freeway, apparently it stops short of I-280. Have plans ever existed to at least complete the freeway to I-280, as Steve Anderson's site is outdated (the most recent date I found while reading was in 2000, relating to the northern extension)? It's a pretty short distance (about 3500 feet), but I heard it was due to opposition.

Mods - this thread should be moved to the NJ thread instead.

The original idea for the 21 freeway was a freeway connection between 280 in Newark and 80 near Paterson. It was proposed in the 60s but never panned out, especially once the NJ-75 freeway died. I don't know all the politics why the last mile or so did not get built between 280 and where it currently starts, but there was a lot of community opposition. It is a mostly commercial corridor that isn't right on the river through that stretch, so a lot would have been affected. It's too bad that the former idea to have it cross the Passaic river north of Passaic and connect to the NJ-20 freeway did not pan out, that would have made a lot more sense.

Fun fact, if you take exit 5 NB, you can drive on a small piece of the original NJ-21 (the original McCarter Hwy). It's in decrepit shape though, I would assume NJDOT handed control to Newark and they have shown no interest in fixing it up.

As for the exit numbers, NJ uses mileage based exit numbers and 21's mileage starts at the 1-9/78/22 interchange so the numbers are consistent with that.

As for the

[Alps]

I'm aware this is in New Jersey, but since that thread might be dead (last post was late November), and this is pretty close to NYC, I feel like this is good enough.

About the NJ 21 freeway, apparently it stops short of I-280. Have plans ever existed to at least complete the freeway to I-280, as Steve Anderson's site is outdated (the most recent date I found while reading was in 2000, relating to the northern extension)? It's a pretty short distance (about 3500 feet), but I heard it was due to opposition.

Mods - this thread should be moved to the NJ thread instead.

The original idea for the 21 freeway was a freeway connection between 280 in Newark and 80 near Paterson. It was proposed in the 60s but never panned out, especially once the NJ-75 freeway died. I don't know all the politics why the last mile or so did not get built between 280 and where it currently starts, but there was a lot of community opposition. It is a mostly commercial corridor that isn't right on the river through that stretch, so a lot would have been affected. It's too bad that the former idea to have it cross the Passaic river north of Passaic and connect to the NJ-20 freeway did not pan out, that would have made a lot more sense.

Fun fact, if you take exit 5 NB, you can drive on a small piece of the original NJ-21 (the original McCarter Hwy). It's in decrepit shape though, I would assume NJDOT handed control to Newark and they have shown no interest in fixing it up.

As for the exit numbers, NJ uses mileage based exit numbers and 21's mileage starts at the 1-9/78/22 interchange so the numbers are consistent with that.

As for the

The old piece used to be NJ 21A before they removed it from the system.

As for extending the freeway, at least part of the reason would be the interchange with 280 would destroy the area.

[D-Dey65]

New suggestion, Over on northbound Exit 8B on the Bruckner Expressway, they really ought to have warning signs about the pedestrian and bicycle path in Pelham Bay Park before drivers leave I-95 and drive under the bridge for the on-ramp from Westchester Avenue.

Speaking of the I-95/Pelham Parkway Interchange, what were those extra RIRO ramps from the west-to-north and south-to-west outer ramps?

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Can't wait for this:
MOBILITY IMPROVEMENT ON N/B BRUCKNER EXPWY, BRONX CO., NYC
Project ID No. X73127

Description

Photo of Construction This project will provide mobility improvement on the North bound Bruckner Expressway between Wilkinson Avenue and Hutchinson River Parkway exit ramp, construct an exit ramp from North bound Hutchinson River Parkway to Bartow Avenue and reconfigure Pelham Parkway interchange. .
Project Overview


Project Status

The current status of the project is In Development.
The Bid Opening is expected to be in Winter 2018/2019.
Construction is expected to begin in Winter 2018/2019.
Construction is expected to be completed in Spring 2021.

and this:

REALIGNMENT OF THE BRONX RIVER PKWY AT GUN HILL RD. BX, NYC
Project ID No. X11025

Description

Photo of Construction This project will implement safety improvements at the Bronx River Parkway ramps at Gun Hill Road. These include widening, extending and improving the geometry of the ramps . Realign Bronx River Pkwy Mainline at Gun Hill Rd Exits. Project to include Construction of Deceleration Lane in the NB Direction; Widening of Existing Exit Ramps to 2 Lanes & Install Concrete Median Barrier to Reduce Accidents & Improve Mobility. Bx, NYC
Project Overview


Project Status

The current status of the project is In Development.
The Bid Opening is expected to be in Summer 2017.
Construction is expected to begin in Summer 2017.
Construction is expected to be completed in Summer 2018.