Opposing side of street does not carry opposing direction of numbered route

Started by briantroutman, April 22, 2017, 01:53:52 PM

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briantroutman

In many cities, a numbered route enters the urbanized area on broad two-way boulevard, and as it approaches the older and denser city center, the two directions of travel are split between a pair of one-way streets a block apart. Usually, the two directions of travel are reunited on the other side of downtown, and the route continues on to the next city.

For example, PA 145 enters Allentown from the north on 7th Street. 7th is a two-way street down to Washington Street, at which point the northbound lanes are diverted to 6th St. And as is typical, both 7th and 6th Streets remain one-way all the way to Union St, where the two directions of PA 145 are reunited as the two-way Lehigh Street.

But there's an interesting little quirk: As PA 145's two directions of travel make the connection to and from Lehigh Street via Union, there's one block where the eastbound lane of Union Street contains first PA 145 SB and then PA 145 NB, yet the opposing side of Union Street isn't PA 145 at all.



Or in other words: You're headed southbound on PA 145, which is a two-way street at your present location. You realize you need to be heading north instead, so you make a quick U-turn, expecting that the opposing lane must be PA 145 North. But now you're not headed northbound on PA 145–and in fact you're no longer on PA 145 at all.

Are there any other places (I assume they'd be in cities), where one side of a street carries a numbered route, and the other side doesn't? Any place where this happens over a greater distance–say several blocks or even a mile or more?


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MA 110 just east of MA 3A in Lowell is a one-way pair, except the roads are two-way for part of their lengths.
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briantroutman

Quote from: 1 on April 22, 2017, 02:02:22 PM
MA 110 just east of MA 3A in Lowell is a one-way pair, except the roads are two-way for part of their lengths.

Thanks. I was in Lowell a couple of months ago and didn't notice this.

Quote from: plain on April 22, 2017, 02:15:18 PM
US 1 has one of these dumbass setups in Dumfries, Va
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Interesting. In a pre-GPS era, I could imagine someone from–let's say Woodbridge–going on a spur-of-the-moment Sunday drive south on US 1. He stops at the Pizza Hut to get dinner, and afterward he realizes it's getting late and that he needs to get back home. So he simply makes a left out of the Pizza Hut assuming he's now back on US 1 northbound headed toward home. He'd drive along for a distance and then suddenly be forced to make right turn onto Canal Road. Surprisingly, there doesn't appear to be a "North US 1 ←"  sign at Canal's intersection with US 1 North. So he might get dead-ended on Canal, turn around a few times, and end up going into the Dumfries Cafe to ask for directions.

empirestate

Bunch of these in Rochester:

–Woodbury Blvd., from South Ave. to Clinton Ave., is NY 31 EB but not NY 31 WB.

–E. Broad St., from South Ave. to Stone St., is NY 31 WB but not NY 31 EB.

–South Ave., from Byron St. to Griffith St., is NY 15 SB but not NY 15 NB.

–Byron St., from South Ave. to Clinton Ave., is NY 15 NB but not NY 15 SB.


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Mapmikey

Many one-way pairs require at least one direction to use a separate street that only one direction of the route uses over to the parallel routing.

US 1 Bus in Fredericksburg does this on both ends of its split as does VA 3 Business on both ends of its.

What might be a little rarer is the OP example where both directions on the same end of the split do this.

The Dumfries example is one of the longer ones you can find, although up into the late 1990s there were US 1 North postings on the 2-way road the southbound direction uses (since VA 234 used to enter on Duke St US 1 North was posted to go left).

1995hoo

I seem to recall US-250 Business in Charlottesville falling into this category, and the streets in question are not one-way pairs. Eastbound, when it passes the Rotunda it continues down University Avenue and Main Street before going left near the Omni to cut around to the north of the Downtown Mall. Westbound, instead of following that route it goes up Preston Avenue to a left onto Grady Avenue, then left again onto Rugby Road until it hits the light near the Rotunda and rejoins the other direction on University Avenue on the hill near the libraries.

See the current VDOT map:

http://www.virginiadot.org/VDOT/Travel/Charlottesville_Map.html
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sbeaver44

US 202 in Norristown, PA does this in ways that still confuse me.

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Eth

It looks like it's since been reconfigured, but for a brief period about 15 years ago, portions of GA 20, GA 81, and GA 155 in McDonough did something like this.



One block of Hazlehurst St carried (southbound) 155 south and (northbound) no numbered routes.

One block of Zack Hinton Pkwy carried (northbound) 20 east, 81 west, and 155 north, and (southbound) no numbered routes.

The situation for 155 has since been simplified, now running along Turner St, though while that block of Zack Hinton Pkwy now carries 155 on both sides, the 20/81 wrong-way concurrency is still only in one direction.

RobbieL2415

US 6 does this in New Bedford, MA when it goes over to local maintenance.

jeffandnicole

2 blocks of US 206 South in Trenton, between Lafayette St & Livingston St have a northbound lane not related to US 206 North.

It's not well signed (actually, not even signed at all at the roundabout that'll keep you on its route), and even the NJDOT Straight Line Diagrams don't show it properly as it shows both directions utilizing a one-way northbound street.

jp the roadgeek

There is a portion of McGovern St in Lancaster that is 2 way and carries US 222 (and silently, PA 272) Southbound (cardinal direction west) for the purpose of creating the 2 one-way street portions of US 222/PA 272 through Downtown Lancaster.  A 2 way portion of North Duke St just south of the split is also 2 way but only signed northbound.
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Rothman

Anyone bring up the messes with  US 202, MA 141 and MA 116 in Holyoke, MA?  Best yet, they aren't signed very well.
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DandyDan

It's been awhile since I was there, but I believe Business  US 20 westbound in Sioux City IA does this.
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jay8g

SR 99 has a very weird interchange in south Seattle, where southbound traffic makes a giant loop, which includes a significant amount of this.

CYoder

The VDOT map for Bristol VA shows VA 113 westbound ending on Sycamore and eastbound starting on Cumberland -- but both roads are two-way and always have been.  (Not that it matters much now that VA 113 is unsigned.)  For those curious about the red line to the south of the VA 113 split, that carries US Truck 11/19.

Bickendan

US 26 in Portland:
Westbound veers off the Ross Island Bridge onto SW Corbett and SW Kelly Avenues. Southbound Corbett and eastbound Kelly are not part of US 26, as eastbound uses Ross Island Way on Naito Parkway's (HWY 1W, OR 10, former OR/US 99W) westflank.

TheHighwayMan3561

US/MN 61 had this in Duluth from 1978-1997 when MN 61 was eliminated beyond the I-35 intersection. NB 61 following one-way 2nd Street dropped down 12th Avenue East (which was also one-way at the time) to connect to London Road, a two-way street. SB 61 followed one-way 14th Avenue East to connect from London up to one-way 3rd Street. So the section of London Road between 12th and 14th carried NB 61, but not SB 61.
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theline

How about 4 streets that are all two-way, with the numbered highway split among them? As a bonus, the directions cross each other twice.


In downtown South Bend, WB Business US 20 enters on Colfax St., turns right on Lafayette Blvd., and turns left on LaSalle Street. EB Bus. 20 enters on LaSalle, turns right on Main St., and turns left on Colfax. Historically, LaSalle and Colfax have always been two-way, while Lafayette was one-way north and Main was one-way south, explaining the reason for the split. Lafayette and Main were converted to two-way recently as part of the Smart Streets project. There has been no announcement regarding rerouting Bus. 20. I suspect that they won't bother. It's not like much traffic adheres to the numbered route anyway.

Ace10

Quote from: jay8g on April 23, 2017, 01:50:11 AM
SR 99 has a very weird interchange in south Seattle, where southbound traffic makes a giant loop, which includes a significant amount of this.

Speaking of SR 99, southeast of Eugene, Oregon's own SR 99 (heading north) goes from a surface street and merges onto OR 58 eastbound for a very short distance before U-turning onto the ramp from OR 58 westbound* and finally merging onto I-5 before exiting in Eugene onto Franklin Blvd, which is also OR 126 Business. Going southbound, making the connection is a lot simpler.

(*Of course this depends on precisely where OR 58 "officially" begins. If it begins at the offramp from I-5 southbound, it runs concurrent with OR 99 southbound until that route splits, then runs as just OR 58, then OR 99 northbound joins it before U-turning and merging onto OR 58 westbound. To make matters worse, OR 99 isn't signed very consistently through this whole maze.)

SectorZ

Quote from: 1 on April 22, 2017, 02:02:22 PM
MA 110 just east of MA 3A in Lowell is a one-way pair, except the roads are two-way for part of their lengths.

That is a relic of each of those roads previously being one-way roads.

sbeaver44

Quote from: jp the roadgeek on April 22, 2017, 11:20:20 PM
There is a portion of McGovern St in Lancaster that is 2 way and carries US 222 (and silently, PA 272) Southbound (cardinal direction west) for the purpose of creating the 2 one-way street portions of US 222/PA 272 through Downtown Lancaster.  A 2 way portion of North Duke St just south of the split is also 2 way but only signed northbound.
And looks like a portion of Broad St carries PA 23 East between Chestnut and Orange. 

Lancaster city has routings that don't always make sense to me.

I don't understand why PA 23 East (Chestnut) and PA 462 East (King) are on seperate one way streets, but PA 23/462 West are on the same one-way street (Orange).

And it looks like PA 72 North begins at Queen where 222/272 branch off onto Church.  Where is the end of PA 72 South?

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dgolub

NY 24 does this in Queens, albeit for the section that's unsigned.  The westbound lanes follow one-way 212 Street, while the eastbound lanes follow two-way Hollis Court Boulevard.

In New Jersey, CR 516 does this as it passes through Matawan.  The eastbound lanes follow Broad Street, while the westbound lanes follow Main Street.  Both are two-way streets.

bulldog1979

There's a three-block section of West Michigan Avenue in Ypsilanti, Michigan between Hamilton and Huron streets, where one side of the street carries westbound Bus. US 12, and the other side of the street carries eastbound M-17.



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