Bizarre Routings/Strange Route Transitions

[fillup420]

Imagine we are in Greensboro, NC, driving west on US 70 (Wendover Ave). We cross over the intersection with O. Henry Blvd, and all of a sudden we are no longer on US 70 West, but now on US 220 North. 70 West turns south onto O. Henry, and 220 North exits off O. Henry onto Wendover. In my opinion, the entire city of Greensboro contains some strange routing choices.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0874648,-79.7663797,16.04z


Another example would be the I-40/Business I-85 concurrency; the only instance of a mainline interstate and different business interstate sharing alignment. Oh and also, Business 85 actually overlaps I-85 for about 2 miles when approaching Greensboro from the south.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.9940266,-79.8693147,19.48z

Any other strange route examples?

[hotdogPi]

RI 114 wrong-way overlaps itself; you can be going both north and south on RI 114 at the same time.

[silverback1065]

Imagine we are in Greensboro, NC, driving west on US 70 (Wendover Ave). We cross over the intersection with O. Henry Blvd, and all of a sudden we are no longer on US 70 West, but now on US 220 North. 70 West turns south onto O. Henry, and 220 North exits off O. Henry onto Wendover. In my opinion, the entire city of Greensboro contains some strange routing choices.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0874648,-79.7663797,16.04z


Another example would be the I-40/Business I-85 concurrency; the only instance of a mainline interstate and different business interstate sharing alignment. Oh and also, Business 85 actually overlaps I-85 for about 2 miles when approaching Greensboro from the south.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.9940266,-79.8693147,19.48z

Any other strange route examples?

i agree, greensboro's highways are weird, it looks like they started building a beltway, then gave up. 

[fillup420]

i agree, greensboro's highways are weird, it looks like they started building a beltway, then gave up.

The beltway is happening slowly but surely! The southeastern piece (new I-85) is done, as well as the southwestern piece (I-73/US 421). The northwestern piece (Future I-73/I-840) is done up to Bryan Blvd. The northern arc (I-840) and northeastern piece (I-840/I-785) will take a while, if it ever gets seriously worked on. Although, if you were to ever drive around the completed loop, you would have travelled on four different interstates, which I think will get very confusing. It would've been five if I-40 had taken the southern loop as originally intended.

[silverback1065]

i agree, greensboro's highways are weird, it looks like they started building a beltway, then gave up.

The beltway is happening slowly but surely! The southeastern piece (new I-85) is done, as well as the southwestern piece (I-73/US 421). The northwestern piece (Future I-73/I-840) is done up to Bryan Blvd. The northern arc (I-840) and northeastern piece (I-840/I-785) will take a while, if it ever gets seriously worked on. Although, if you were to ever drive around the completed loop, you would have travelled on four different interstates, which I think will get very confusing. It would've been five if I-40 had taken the southern loop as originally intended.

I thought there was more going on, they should label the whole loop 840

Nexus 6P

[Max Rockatansky]

Some of the State Highways that traverse San Joaquin Valley in California are odd in that they take huge 90 degree turns in between parcels of privately held property.  Almost all of the state highways that went through San Joaquin Valley were like that at one point but the big ones that remain today would be; 201, 245, 63, 216, and 137.  137 was so strange I ever did a thread from clinching the route back on the Pacific Southwest board:

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=19798.0

[bob7374]

i agree, greensboro's highways are weird, it looks like they started building a beltway, then gave up.

The beltway is happening slowly but surely! The southeastern piece (new I-85) is done, as well as the southwestern piece (I-73/US 421). The northwestern piece (Future I-73/I-840) is done up to Bryan Blvd. The northern arc (I-840) and northeastern piece (I-840/I-785) will take a while, if it ever gets seriously worked on. Although, if you were to ever drive around the completed loop, you would have traveled on four different interstates, which I think will get very confusing. It would've been five if I-40 had taken the southern loop as originally intended.

Some of the northern section (I-840, I-785) will be opened in the next couple years. The I-840 section from Bryan Blvd. to US 220 is 69% complete and scheduled to be opened in March 2018. The I-785 section between US 70 and US 29 is 77% complete, but its official completion date has been pushed back from Dec. 2018 to Dec. 2019. Work started in November on the I-840 section from US 220 to Lawndale Drive, that is to be completed by the end of 2020. When the last segment is completed (work to start in 2018), the I-840 designation will be added on the I-785 segment.

The NCDOT project page:
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/greensborourbanloop/

When completed, will this make I-840 the only 3di loop that will share parts of its route with 2 other interstates?

[silverback1065]

i agree, greensboro's highways are weird, it looks like they started building a beltway, then gave up.

The beltway is happening slowly but surely! The southeastern piece (new I-85) is done, as well as the southwestern piece (I-73/US 421). The northwestern piece (Future I-73/I-840) is done up to Bryan Blvd. The northern arc (I-840) and northeastern piece (I-840/I-785) will take a while, if it ever gets seriously worked on. Although, if you were to ever drive around the completed loop, you would have traveled on four different interstates, which I think will get very confusing. It would've been five if I-40 had taken the southern loop as originally intended.

Some of the northern section (I-840, I-785) will be opened in the next couple years. The I-840 section from Bryan Blvd. to US 220 is 69% complete and scheduled to be opened in March 2018. The I-785 section between US 70 and US 29 is 77% complete, but its official completion date has been pushed back from Dec. 2018 to Dec. 2019. Work started in November on the I-840 section from US 220 to Lawndale Drive, that is to be completed by the end of 2020. When the last segment is completed (work to start in 2018), the I-840 designation will be added on the I-785 segment.

The NCDOT project page:
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/greensborourbanloop/

When completed, will this make I-840 the only 3di loop that will share parts of its route with 2 other interstates?

until 465 does it in indy with 74 and 69 in about 2022

[silverback1065]

us 44 does this weird bow tie do to one ways streets in east providence https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8195837,-71.3710944,16.04z

[kphoger]

Imagine we are in Greensboro, NC, driving west on US 70 (Wendover Ave). We cross over the intersection with O. Henry Blvd, and all of a sudden we are no longer on US 70 West, but now on US 220 North. 70 West turns south onto O. Henry, and 220 North exits off O. Henry onto Wendover. In my opinion, the entire city of Greensboro contains some strange routing choices.

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.0874648,-79.7663797,16.04z

Considering US-70 goes down to Lexington, how would making it continue west on Wendover Ave make more sense?

The only slightly weird part of it is that US-220 wraps around the east side of town at all, rather than being somehow routed on the west side of town.  But, even with that, US-70 would still make sense as it is.

[fillup420]

Considering US-70 goes down to Lexington, how would making it continue west on Wendover Ave make more sense?

The only slightly weird part of it is that US-220 wraps around the east side of town at all, rather than being somehow routed on the west side of town.  But, even with that, US-70 would still make sense as it is.

I'm not saying continuing 70 along Wendover would make more sense, just that when driving on Wendover, 70 all of a sudden becomes 220, or 220 becomes 70, depending on direction of travel.

[NWI_Irish96]

US 20 and IN 2 are two east-west routes that intersect in LaPorte County, IN such that, coming from any of the four directions, you must turn in order to remain on the same route and going straight puts you on other route. 

[Brandon]

US 20 and IN 2 are two east-west routes that intersect in LaPorte County, IN such that, coming from any of the four directions, you must turn in order to remain on the same route and going straight puts you on other route. 

What's even more bizarre here is that the four-lane divided highway carries US-20 west of there and IN-2 east of there.  East of there, US-20 is on a two-lane road, as is IN-2 west of there.

[kphoger]

Considering US-70 goes down to Lexington, how would making it continue west on Wendover Ave make more sense?

The only slightly weird part of it is that US-220 wraps around the east side of town at all, rather than being somehow routed on the west side of town.  But, even with that, US-70 would still make sense as it is.

I'm not saying continuing 70 along Wendover would make more sense, just that when driving on Wendover, 70 all of a sudden becomes 220, or 220 becomes 70, depending on direction of travel.

But that's a very common scenario.  Highway numbers leave the physical roadway all over the place.

Examples in that same neck o' the woods:
US-421 near Frankfort
US-127 near Frankfort
US-52 near Huntington

And I didn't even have to hunt very hard to find those.

[hotdogPi]

Considering US-70 goes down to Lexington, how would making it continue west on Wendover Ave make more sense?

The only slightly weird part of it is that US-220 wraps around the east side of town at all, rather than being somehow routed on the west side of town.  But, even with that, US-70 would still make sense as it is.

I'm not saying continuing 70 along Wendover would make more sense, just that when driving on Wendover, 70 all of a sudden becomes 220, or 220 becomes 70, depending on direction of travel.

But that's a very common scenario.  Highway numbers leave the physical roadway all over the place.

Examples in that same neck o' the woods:
US-421 near Frankfort
US-127 near Frankfort
US-52 near Huntington

And I didn't even have to hunt very hard to find those.

This is a "bump", like I-76/I-80. It's four-way, involving two route numbers.

[kphoger]

Considering US-70 goes down to Lexington, how would making it continue west on Wendover Ave make more sense?

The only slightly weird part of it is that US-220 wraps around the east side of town at all, rather than being somehow routed on the west side of town.  But, even with that, US-70 would still make sense as it is.

I'm not saying continuing 70 along Wendover would make more sense, just that when driving on Wendover, 70 all of a sudden becomes 220, or 220 becomes 70, depending on direction of travel.

But that's a very common scenario.  Highway numbers leave the physical roadway all over the place.

Examples in that same neck o' the woods:
US-421 near Frankfort
US-127 near Frankfort
US-52 near Huntington

And I didn't even have to hunt very hard to find those.

This is a "bump", like I-76/I-80. It's four-way, involving two route numbers.

...or IL-1 and US-45 in Norris City.

[kurumi]

us 44 does this weird bow tie do to one ways streets in east providence https://www.google.com/maps/@41.8195837,-71.3710944,16.04z

The components of the bowtie are Taunton and Waterman Avenues. Each one has a pair of one-way segments in opposite directions. Each is a street that is continuous in town -- no breaks -- but cannot be traversed end to end. You cannot "clinch" it without doubling back and using other streets.

[theline]

US 20 and IN 2 are two east-west routes that intersect in LaPorte County, IN such that, coming from any of the four directions, you must turn in order to remain on the same route and going straight puts you on other route. 

What's even more bizarre here is that the four-lane divided highway carries US-20 west of there and IN-2 east of there.  East of there, US-20 is on a two-lane road, as is IN-2 west of there.

For the sake of complete accuracy, you are wrong about SR-2 west of the intersection. It continues to be a four-lane divided highway all the way to LaPorte. If you drive SR-2 between South Bend and LaPorte, which I've done many times, it's divided highway all the way. You just have to make that turn in Rolling Prairie.

[ColossalBlocks]

https://www.google.com/maps/place/101+N+Main+St,+Red+Bud,+IL+62278/@38.2115693,-89.9981419,16z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x8876275d9369ca99:0xaf53024c95b56df9!8m2!3d38.2117503!4d-89.9940905

[tchafe1978]

i agree, greensboro's highways are weird, it looks like they started building a beltway, then gave up.

The beltway is happening slowly but surely! The southeastern piece (new I-85) is done, as well as the southwestern piece (I-73/US 421). The northwestern piece (Future I-73/I-840) is done up to Bryan Blvd. The northern arc (I-840) and northeastern piece (I-840/I-785) will take a while, if it ever gets seriously worked on. Although, if you were to ever drive around the completed loop, you would have traveled on four different interstates, which I think will get very confusing. It would've been five if I-40 had taken the southern loop as originally intended.

Some of the northern section (I-840, I-785) will be opened in the next couple years. The I-840 section from Bryan Blvd. to US 220 is 69% complete and scheduled to be opened in March 2018. The I-785 section between US 70 and US 29 is 77% complete, but its official completion date has been pushed back from Dec. 2018 to Dec. 2019. Work started in November on the I-840 section from US 220 to Lawndale Drive, that is to be completed by the end of 2020. When the last segment is completed (work to start in 2018), the I-840 designation will be added on the I-785 segment.

The NCDOT project page:
https://www.ncdot.gov/projects/greensborourbanloop/

When completed, will this make I-840 the only 3di loop that will share parts of its route with 2 other interstates?

until 465 does it in indy with 74 and 69 in about 2022

Around Milwaukee, I-894 shares pavement with I-41 and I-43, with a wrong way concurrency involving I-43 and I-41 just for good measure.

[CNGL-Leudimin]

I-894 is now completely redundant to I-41. Although one can argue the southernmost 40 or so miles of I-41 are pointless.

RI 114 wrong-way overlaps itself; you can be going both north and south on RI 114 at the same time.

AFAIK US 60 does the same in Newport News VA.

[MNHighwayMan]

I've always found it really interesting that US-169's concurrency with US-10 on both ends involves a junction with another highway (MN-47 to the east, MN-101 S to the west). MN-47 doesn't even end there; it goes concurrent with US-10 to the south/east of its junction. In other words, US-10 swaps concurrencies at a single interchange in Anoka.

Here's Minnesota's real winner, though: MN-225.

Honorable mentions go to MN-27, an east/west route that runs concurrent with MN-65 for about 25 miles, and even crosses a different east/west route (MN-18) in the process;
MN-9 which as has a N/S section and an E/W section that are connected by a one-block concurrency with US-12 in Benson;
And MN-95, which is a route in two parts, E/W from MN-23 to Taylors Falls, and N/S from Taylors Falls to US-10, connected via concurrency with US-8. Since the mile markers start at the west end, on the N/S section the mile markers actually increase as you go south.

[Eth]

I've always thought the interaction of GA 20 and GA 81 in Loganville was strange. The two routes essentially "bounce" off each other, but do so via a brief 1/4-mile overlap. They also have a separate concurrency further south in McDonough.

[bzakharin]

At this intersection NJ 70 East turns into NJ 35 North while NJ 35 North turns into NJ 34 North for some reason.
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1149727,-74.0723166,17z

[RobbieL2415]

In NC, why isn't I-587 signed with US 64/264 to Raleigh?  Seems like a pointless gap.