US routes ending at seemingly random locations

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BrianP

I'd say the west end of US 209 counts.  It should be truncated to I-81. 


froggie

^^ Despite the signs, MnDOT's Logpoint still has US 218 ending at I-35.

US 89

US 89 ends at the intersection of Old 66 and Country Club Dr in Flagstaff AZ. Which is silly, because I-40 is literally a half mile away from there. It should be extended south on Country Club to I-40.
The funny thing is, the signage on I-40 suggests that 89 does do that, but there is an end sign posted facing west at the north end of Country Club.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: roadguy2 on August 01, 2017, 10:29:29 AM
US 89 ends at the intersection of Old 66 and Country Club Dr in Flagstaff AZ. Which is silly, because I-40 is literally a half mile away from there. It should be extended south on Country Club to I-40.
The funny thing is, the signage on I-40 suggests that 89 does do that, but there is an end sign posted facing west at the north end of Country Club.

Problem is that it would dead end on US 180.  A better routing would be down Milton to I-17 so it can intersect AZ 89A

jemacedo9

Quote from: BrianP on August 01, 2017, 10:06:18 AM
I'd say the west end of US 209 counts.  It should be truncated to I-81. 

I think theoretically, US 209 "continues" across the Millersburg Ferry to end at US 11/15. 

I think it should take over PA 147 southward to US 22/US 322.

US 89

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 01, 2017, 10:38:41 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on August 01, 2017, 10:29:29 AM
US 89 ends at the intersection of Old 66 and Country Club Dr in Flagstaff AZ. Which is silly, because I-40 is literally a half mile away from there. It should be extended south on Country Club to I-40.
The funny thing is, the signage on I-40 suggests that 89 does do that, but there is an end sign posted facing west at the north end of Country Club.

Problem is that it would dead end on US 180.  A better routing would be down Milton to I-17 so it can intersect AZ 89A

And then be extended down 89A and 89 to US 93 or US 60?

In all seriousness though, I would prefer that arrangement, since it would emphasize I-17's role as the replacement for US 89 to Phoenix.

Max Rockatansky

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Quote from: roadguy2 on August 01, 2017, 11:09:47 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 01, 2017, 10:38:41 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on August 01, 2017, 10:29:29 AM
US 89 ends at the intersection of Old 66 and Country Club Dr in Flagstaff AZ. Which is silly, because I-40 is literally a half mile away from there. It should be extended south on Country Club to I-40.
The funny thing is, the signage on I-40 suggests that 89 does do that, but there is an end sign posted facing west at the north end of Country Club.

Problem is that it would dead end on US 180.  A better routing would be down Milton to I-17 so it can intersect AZ 89A

And then be extended down 89A and 89 to US 93 or US 60?

In all seriousness though, I would prefer that arrangement, since it would emphasize I-17's role as the replacement for US 89 to Phoenix.

Really my opinion is that US 89 should have never pulled north from Wickenburg but instead routed to Prescott Valley on US 89a/AZ 89a.   The alignment from Ash Fork to Prescott which became AZ 89 really didn't warrant staying a US Route but AZ 89a connects major tourist areas and has two freeway/expressway configurations.  Besides, I find it strange that Prescott doesn't have at least a US Route when the area is actually getting fairly large.  The only problem with Milton is that it isn't state maintained anymore why is probably why it is signed as the I-40BL.

US 89

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 01, 2017, 11:16:41 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on August 01, 2017, 11:09:47 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 01, 2017, 10:38:41 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on August 01, 2017, 10:29:29 AM
US 89 ends at the intersection of Old 66 and Country Club Dr in Flagstaff AZ. Which is silly, because I-40 is literally a half mile away from there. It should be extended south on Country Club to I-40.
The funny thing is, the signage on I-40 suggests that 89 does do that, but there is an end sign posted facing west at the north end of Country Club.

Problem is that it would dead end on US 180.  A better routing would be down Milton to I-17 so it can intersect AZ 89A

And then be extended down 89A and 89 to US 93 or US 60?

In all seriousness though, I would prefer that arrangement, since it would emphasize I-17's role as the replacement for US 89 to Phoenix.

Really my opinion is that US 89 should have never pulled north from Wickenburg but instead routed to Prescott Valley on US 89a/AZ 89a.   The alignment from Ash Fork to Prescott which became AZ 89 really didn't warrant staying a US Route but AZ 89a connects major tourist areas and has two freeway/expressway configurations.  Besides, I find it strange that Prescott doesn't have at least a US Route when the area is actually getting fairly large.  The only problem with Milton is that it isn't state maintained anymore why is probably why it is signed as the I-40BL.

I agree with you. However, AZ 89A does have that nasty section north of Sedona in Oak Creek Canyon. Maybe AZ DOT doesn't want to get a lot of trucks and other commercial traffic on that road, especially in the winter.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: roadguy2 on August 01, 2017, 11:42:57 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 01, 2017, 11:16:41 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on August 01, 2017, 11:09:47 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 01, 2017, 10:38:41 AM
Quote from: roadguy2 on August 01, 2017, 10:29:29 AM
US 89 ends at the intersection of Old 66 and Country Club Dr in Flagstaff AZ. Which is silly, because I-40 is literally a half mile away from there. It should be extended south on Country Club to I-40.
The funny thing is, the signage on I-40 suggests that 89 does do that, but there is an end sign posted facing west at the north end of Country Club.

Problem is that it would dead end on US 180.  A better routing would be down Milton to I-17 so it can intersect AZ 89A

And then be extended down 89A and 89 to US 93 or US 60?

In all seriousness though, I would prefer that arrangement, since it would emphasize I-17's role as the replacement for US 89 to Phoenix.

Really my opinion is that US 89 should have never pulled north from Wickenburg but instead routed to Prescott Valley on US 89a/AZ 89a.   The alignment from Ash Fork to Prescott which became AZ 89 really didn't warrant staying a US Route but AZ 89a connects major tourist areas and has two freeway/expressway configurations.  Besides, I find it strange that Prescott doesn't have at least a US Route when the area is actually getting fairly large.  The only problem with Milton is that it isn't state maintained anymore why is probably why it is signed as the I-40BL.

I agree with you. However, AZ 89A does have that nasty section north of Sedona in Oak Creek Canyon. Maybe AZ DOT doesn't want to get a lot of trucks and other commercial traffic on that road, especially in the winter.

Might be something like that but I doubt many truckers would still take 89a even if it was a US Route.  Oak Creek Canyon and Jerome are infamous for being difficult, although compared to some truck routes in California or Colorado it is comparatively tame.

RobbieL2415

US 6 used to end at a loop of itself in Provincetown, MA. Now it just transitions onto MA 6A, it's original alignment through the town proper.

Mapmikey

Quote from: cjk374 on July 31, 2017, 04:34:24 PM
US 80 ends at a cul-du-sac at Tybee Island, GA.

US 80's posted end is well short of the cul-de-sac, although it did used to run further south than the Arby's

Roadsguy

Quote from: jemacedo9 on August 01, 2017, 10:45:30 AM
Quote from: BrianP on August 01, 2017, 10:06:18 AM
I'd say the west end of US 209 counts.  It should be truncated to I-81. 

I think theoretically, US 209 "continues" across the Millersburg Ferry to end at US 11/15. 

I think it should take over PA 147 southward to US 22/US 322.

That or build a road bridge to actually connect 209 to 11/15.
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BrianP

Quote from: Roadsguy on August 01, 2017, 05:26:09 PM
Quote from: jemacedo9 on August 01, 2017, 10:45:30 AM
Quote from: BrianP on August 01, 2017, 10:06:18 AM
I'd say the west end of US 209 counts.  It should be truncated to I-81. 

I think theoretically, US 209 "continues" across the Millersburg Ferry to end at US 11/15. 

I think it should take over PA 147 southward to US 22/US 322.

That or build a road bridge to actually connect 209 to 11/15.
With interstate routes to the north and south the need for that is near zero.  Really only locals have need there.  And heck the ferry doesn't run year round and doesn't run everyday when it does run.  Which again shows the really low need. 

An alternative to truncation would be a southern reroute say along PA 325 to end at US 22/322.  Or use a northern reroute along say PA 54 to end at US 11 or I-80. 

ColossalBlocks

US 412's eastern terminus. It would be nice if they extended it to US 431 at least.

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Quote from: ColossalBlocks on August 01, 2017, 10:50:49 PM
US 412's eastern terminus. It would be nice if they extended it to US 431 at least.

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It should never have been designated, at least with the route number it has.  I still think that 412 should have been designated 464, 370, 162...the options are limitless.

Thing 342

US-21 ends at a somewhat random point on Hunting Island, SC, where a former alignment originally headed off towards the lighthouse. Would make more sense if it was extended to end at the entrance to the state park or at the gate to Fripp Island.

TheOneKEA

US 29 ends at a T-intersection with MD 99 in Mount Hebron, MD, just north of its interchange with I-70. The interchange has a pair of directional two-lane ramps to and from I-70 that could serve as the US 29 mainline, with the remaining stub being an unsigned extension of MD 99. Most traffic exits at I-70 already, so there's no reason why US 29 should go any further.

Flint1979

Quote from: Great Lakes Roads on July 31, 2017, 03:37:21 PM
Here is a good one: U.S. 35 in Northern Indiana... where does it end? We don't know, but what we know is that U.S. 35 used to end at U.S. 12 until the city of Michigan City took over and redid Michigan Blvd... It looks very nice now!!
US 35 ends at US 20 just east of the I-94 interchange.

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Quote from: catsynth on August 09, 2017, 12:26:40 PM
What about US 400 in Granada, CO?

Depends I guess. Colorado clearly didn't want it so they quietly ended it at the first reasonable place they could.
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US 89

Quote from: TheHighwayMan394 on August 09, 2017, 01:17:19 PM
Quote from: catsynth on August 09, 2017, 12:26:40 PM
What about US 400 in Granada, CO?

Depends I guess. Colorado clearly didn't want it so they quietly ended it at the first reasonable place they could.

Not really anyplace for it to go in CO either. Really, it should end at US 50 in Dodge City, as it's concurrent with US 50 west of there.

paulthemapguy

Quote from: catsynth on August 09, 2017, 12:26:40 PM
What about US 400 in Granada, CO?

US400's existence in general is seemingly random.  :)

The eastern end of US34 is the poster child for seeming randomness.  The City wants to take the responsibility for the state and US highways but won't allocate any resources to take care of them?  That's garbage already.  But ending a US route at a state route, IL43?  I get the history of it, but still.  Wtf.
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US 220's northern terminus is at a side street in Waverly, NY: https://goo.gl/maps/UoEZvvUZT8S2

(And it wouldn't have been too hard to extend it northward (by way of current NY 34) to meet its' parent in Auburn.)



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