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Re: Delaware
« Reply #750 on: March 17, 2017, 07:11:54 AM »

I've seen this before on the Delaware Memorial Bridge: Falling ice from the suspension ropes and tubes case them to shut down the outside lanes.  Thus, 2 lanes are open in either direction.  Unlike some of the past incidents, weekday, winter closures don't tend to jam up traffic all that much, especially since people aren't necessarily slowing down to see construction work or anything.

http://www.nj.com/salem/index.ssf/2017/03/falling_ice_prompts_lane_closures_on_delaware_memo.html#incart_river_home

Do other suspension, cable stayed, or cantilever bridges have a problem with this?

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Re: Delaware
« Reply #751 on: March 17, 2017, 08:10:49 AM »

I've seen this before on the Delaware Memorial Bridge: Falling ice from the suspension ropes and tubes case them to shut down the outside lanes.  Thus, 2 lanes are open in either direction.  Unlike some of the past incidents, weekday, winter closures don't tend to jam up traffic all that much, especially since people aren't necessarily slowing down to see construction work or anything.

http://www.nj.com/salem/index.ssf/2017/03/falling_ice_prompts_lane_closures_on_delaware_memo.html#incart_river_home

Do other suspension, cable stayed, or cantilever bridges have a problem with this?

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Yes.  East River bridges in NYC do...but I don't think they shut down outside lanes to deal with it.
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #752 on: March 17, 2017, 09:49:21 AM »

Remember that this wasn't a snow storm though...in DE, it was all sleet and freezing rain...so this was an unusual event. 
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #753 on: March 17, 2017, 10:41:38 AM »

Remember that this wasn't a snow storm though...in DE, it was all sleet and freezing rain...so this was an unusual event. 

They still had some snow, especially in the Wilmington/South Jersey areas near the bridge.  Then combined with the thawing and refreezing, making the icicles, the long icicles occur.  During the next thawing is when the icicles fall, and causes the lanes to be shut down.
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #755 on: March 30, 2017, 02:39:41 PM »

The information one can get via Wikipedia is gold.  I was looking up something on New Castle, Delaware, and found this interesting tidbit: 

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The spire on top of the Court House, Delaware's Colonial capitol and first state house, was used as the center of the Twelve-Mile Circle forming the northern boundary of Delaware. The Delaware River within this radius to the low water mark on the opposite shore is part of Delaware. Thus the Delaware Memorial Bridge was built as an intrastate span by Delaware, without financial participation by neighboring New Jersey.[citation needed]

For this to be even remotely true, the bridge would have had to touch down at the exact point where the river touches NJ during lowtide.  Obviously, it does not.

Take note that a citation is needed...I won't hold my breath waiting for that citation to be provided.
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #756 on: March 30, 2017, 11:17:23 PM »

The information one can get via Wikipedia is gold.  I was looking up something on New Castle, Delaware, and found this interesting tidbit: 

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The spire on top of the Court House, Delaware's Colonial capitol and first state house, was used as the center of the Twelve-Mile Circle forming the northern boundary of Delaware. The Delaware River within this radius to the low water mark on the opposite shore is part of Delaware. Thus the Delaware Memorial Bridge was built as an intrastate span by Delaware, without financial participation by neighboring New Jersey.[citation needed]

For this to be even remotely true, the bridge would have had to touch down at the exact point where the river touches NJ during lowtide.  Obviously, it does not.

Take note that a citation is needed...I won't hold my breath waiting for that citation to be provided.
Considering DRBA is a bi-state agency...
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Re: Delaware
« Reply #757 on: April 12, 2017, 03:23:20 PM »

I went out to where the old summit bridge was today and took some pictures, i would upload them but i don't know how  :confused: . I went on both sides of where the former bridge was, it was very interesting.
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