Milwaukee area freeways

[hobsini2]

Thanks for the info. Personally, I believe the proposal to eliminate Exit 277 is probably dead.

Sure we can all agree it's not vitially needed but as long as it's there why get rid of it? What I don't get is why the DOT never posted a warning sign letting drivers know there is no eastbound return ramp at that interchange. They did it for Hwy P during the days that interchange was only partial.

That is not a typical practice of WisDOT. Even here in Illinois, only the Tollways have signs about interchanges being partial interchanges.

[dvferyance]

Thanks for the info. Personally, I believe the proposal to eliminate Exit 277 is probably dead.

Sure we can all agree it's not vitially needed but as long as it's there why get rid of it? What I don't get is why the DOT never posted a warning sign letting drivers know there is no eastbound return ramp at that interchange. They did it for Hwy P during the days that interchange was only partial.

That is not a typical practice of WisDOT. Even here in Illinois, only the Tollways have signs about interchanges being partial interchanges.

I wouldn't say that. The partial Lake Dr interchange in Amhurst on US-10 is marked as such so is the partial interchange on I-39 at County Road D in Marquette County. The difference is Wisconsin has far fewer partial interchanges then Illinois.

[Milwaukee, WY]

So what's the over/under on the I-94 expansion being sped up if the state lands a Foxconn factory in Mt. Pleasant? Seems like it would move to being a top priority.

[SSOWorld]

So what's the over/under on the I-94 expansion being sped up if the state lands a Foxconn factory in Mt. Pleasant? Seems like it would move to being a top priority.

Is the Zoo interchange done yet?

[Milwaukee, WY]

So what's the over/under on the I-94 expansion being sped up if the state lands a Foxconn factory in Mt. Pleasant? Seems like it would move to being a top priority.

Is the Zoo interchange done yet?

Well, obviously not... But I could see Vos and company pushing for moving forward on Racine and Southern Milwaukee Counties before finishing the North leg of the Zoo project...

[dvferyance]

So what's the over/under on the I-94 expansion being sped up if the state lands a Foxconn factory in Mt. Pleasant? Seems like it would move to being a top priority.

I would think so I thought the plan was finish existing projects first before starting a new ones. But for what ever reason some new projects did start after that.

[SSOWorld]

So what's the over/under on the I-94 expansion being sped up if the state lands a Foxconn factory in Mt. Pleasant? Seems like it would move to being a top priority.

Is the Zoo interchange done yet?

Well, obviously not... But I could see Vos and company pushing for moving forward on Racine and Southern Milwaukee Counties before finishing the North leg of the Zoo project...

Directive from the top.  Finish the Zoo first.  Nothing more is going to happen on 94 until 2019.

[GeekJedi]

So what's the over/under on the I-94 expansion being sped up if the state lands a Foxconn factory in Mt. Pleasant? Seems like it would move to being a top priority.

Is the Zoo interchange done yet?

Well, obviously not... But I could see Vos and company pushing for moving forward on Racine and Southern Milwaukee Counties before finishing the North leg of the Zoo project...

Directive from the top.  Finish the Zoo first.  Nothing more is going to happen on 94 until 2019.

Well, that directive will change if Foxconn asks. Guaranteed.

[GeekJedi]

So what's the over/under on the I-94 expansion being sped up if the state lands a Foxconn factory in Mt. Pleasant? Seems like it would move to being a top priority.

Is the Zoo interchange done yet?

Well, obviously not... But I could see Vos and company pushing for moving forward on Racine and Southern Milwaukee Counties before finishing the North leg of the Zoo project...

Directive from the top.  Finish the Zoo first.  Nothing more is going to happen on 94 until 2019.

From today's Journal-Sentinel:

"Wisconsin has already committed to up to $3 billion in state tax incentives that could be paid out in cash to Foxconn if the company comes through in creating up to 13,000 jobs, plus another $252 million for work on the Interstate 94 leg south of Milwaukee that would serve the flat screen display plant."

[Revive 755]

From today's Journal-Sentinel:

"Wisconsin has already committed to up to $3 billion in state tax incentives that could be paid out in cash to Foxconn if the company comes through in creating up to 13,000 jobs, plus another $252 million for work on the Interstate 94 leg south of Milwaukee that would serve the flat screen display plant."

Finishing the "reconstruction" of the north-south section of I-94 has also been mentioned in the Chicago area newspapers lately, along with possibly using bonds to pay for it.

[mgk920]

From today's Journal-Sentinel:

"Wisconsin has already committed to up to $3 billion in state tax incentives that could be paid out in cash to Foxconn if the company comes through in creating up to 13,000 jobs, plus another $252 million for work on the Interstate 94 leg south of Milwaukee that would serve the flat screen display plant."

Finishing the "reconstruction" of the north-south section of I-94 has also been mentioned in the Chicago area newspapers lately, along with possibly using bonds to pay for it.

Although this is likely wandering into the 'Fantasy Highways' zone, depending on the site(s) chosen for this and any ancillary plants, as well as all of the other development that would reasonably be expected to come along with this (ie, residential, local commercial, etc), what other notable road and highway upgrades might we see coming from this?  Over the past day or so, I did hear some radio news reports out of Milwaukee about landowners being approached about this in the Sturtevant area.

Mike

[Joe The Dragon]

From today's Journal-Sentinel:

"Wisconsin has already committed to up to $3 billion in state tax incentives that could be paid out in cash to Foxconn if the company comes through in creating up to 13,000 jobs, plus another $252 million for work on the Interstate 94 leg south of Milwaukee that would serve the flat screen display plant."

Finishing the "reconstruction" of the north-south section of I-94 has also been mentioned in the Chicago area newspapers lately, along with possibly using bonds to pay for it.

Although this is likely wandering into the 'Fantasy Highways' zone, depending on the site(s) chosen for this and any ancillary plants, as well as all of the other development that would reasonably be expected to come along with this (ie, residential, local commercial, etc), what other notable road and highway upgrades might we see coming from this?  Over the past day or so, I did hear some radio news reports out of Milwaukee about landowners being approached about this in the Sturtevant area.

Mike

I think all of the ramps / roads with exits are setup to be widened on that part of I-94 I think the new ramps are like 99% done.

[SSOWorld]

https://projects.511wi.gov/i94northsouth/overview/

The Foxconn deal seems to accelerated the project from a 15-year plan to a 4-year plan

Also this...  http://wisconsindot.gov/Pages/about-wisdot/newsroom/news-rel/103017-infra-grant-.aspx

[GeekJedi]

The Foxconn deal seems to accelerated the project from a 15-year plan to a 4-year plan

I'm stunned, I tell ya. Stunned!!

[Revive 755]

Although this is likely wandering into the 'Fantasy Highways' zone, depending on the site(s) chosen for this and any ancillary plants, as well as all of the other development that would reasonably be expected to come along with this (ie, residential, local commercial, etc), what other notable road and highway upgrades might we see coming from this?  Over the past day or so, I did hear some radio news reports out of Milwaukee about landowners being approached about this in the Sturtevant area.

Mike

I'm wondering if this could lead towards at least studies for extending Lake Parkway down to Racine?  Depending where the plant goes, I could also see a new connector road and interchange being built on I-94.

[triplemultiplex]

At the very least, WisDOT may rethink their design for the CTH KR interchange; throw in a loop or something.
I'm bemused by this Foxconn thing; watching all the 'free market' types fall all over themselves to have the government subsidize this one factory; picking winners and losers.  I have to assume they'll be using eminent domain to secure at least some of the land needed and hand it over to this private corporation.  I thought big government was bad?
But it's okay apparently, because there will be like 12,000 jobs...  for robots.

It's great we get to 8-lane I-94 the rest of the way, but it's coming at the expense of, in my opinion, more deserving highway projects around the state and especially in southeast Wisconsin.  An extra lane there is good, but an extra lane on I-43 on the north side of Metro Milwaukee would be much, much better.  Just one example.

[GeekJedi]

...but it's coming at the expense of, in my opinion, more deserving highway projects around the state and especially in southeast Wisconsin. 

I don't think this is mutually exclusive to anything else. They're adding funding specifically for this, not taking funding away from anything else.

[SSOWorld]

...but it's coming at the expense of, in my opinion, more deserving highway projects around the state and especially in southeast Wisconsin. 

I don't think this is mutually exclusive to anything else. They're adding funding specifically for this, not taking funding away from anything else.

Then why are the Zoo freeway approaches being cut from the schedule? Also I-94 Zoo to Stadium?

[GeekJedi]

Then why are the Zoo freeway approaches being cut from the schedule? Also I-94 Zoo to Stadium?

Because the legislature refuses to raise taxes or add money to the transportation budget, so projects like this one that were originally expected to be funded in a timely manner are getting pared back. Those cuts were announced before the Foxconn deal (and the related I-94 expansion). Especially since as they slow down, they get more expensive to build.

[FightingIrish]

At the very least, WisDOT may rethink their design for the CTH KR interchange; throw in a loop or something.
I'm bemused by this Foxconn thing; watching all the 'free market' types fall all over themselves to have the government subsidize this one factory; picking winners and losers.  I have to assume they'll be using eminent domain to secure at least some of the land needed and hand it over to this private corporation.  I thought big government was bad?
But it's okay apparently, because there will be like 12,000 jobs...  for robots.

It's great we get to 8-lane I-94 the rest of the way, but it's coming at the expense of, in my opinion, more deserving highway projects around the state and especially in southeast Wisconsin.  An extra lane there is good, but an extra lane on I-43 on the north side of Metro Milwaukee would be much, much better.  Just one example.

The whole FoxConn deal is a con job. Essentially, politicians moving heaven and earth to accommodate one company, so they can brag about"creating jobs."

At least Wisconsin has no chance of getting Amazon. That's going to be an even more ridiculous deal.

[dvferyance]

At the very least, WisDOT may rethink their design for the CTH KR interchange; throw in a loop or something.
I'm bemused by this Foxconn thing; watching all the 'free market' types fall all over themselves to have the government subsidize this one factory; picking winners and losers.  I have to assume they'll be using eminent domain to secure at least some of the land needed and hand it over to this private corporation.  I thought big government was bad?
But it's okay apparently, because there will be like 12,000 jobs...  for robots.

It's great we get to 8-lane I-94 the rest of the way, but it's coming at the expense of, in my opinion, more deserving highway projects around the state and especially in southeast Wisconsin.  An extra lane there is good, but an extra lane on I-43 on the north side of Metro Milwaukee would be much, much better.  Just one example.

The whole FoxConn deal is a con job. Essentially, politicians moving heaven and earth to accommodate one company, so they can brag about"creating jobs."

At least Wisconsin has no chance of getting Amazon. That's going to be an even more ridiculous deal.

Let's just get back to talking about roads. Politics belong on a different forum.

[Milwaukee, WY]

At the very least, WisDOT may rethink their design for the CTH KR interchange; throw in a loop or something.
I'm bemused by this Foxconn thing; watching all the 'free market' types fall all over themselves to have the government subsidize this one factory; picking winners and losers.  I have to assume they'll be using eminent domain to secure at least some of the land needed and hand it over to this private corporation.  I thought big government was bad?
But it's okay apparently, because there will be like 12,000 jobs...  for robots.

It's great we get to 8-lane I-94 the rest of the way, but it's coming at the expense of, in my opinion, more deserving highway projects around the state and especially in southeast Wisconsin.  An extra lane there is good, but an extra lane on I-43 on the north side of Metro Milwaukee would be much, much better.  Just one example.

The whole FoxConn deal is a con job. Essentially, politicians moving heaven and earth to accommodate one company, so they can brag about"creating jobs."

At least Wisconsin has no chance of getting Amazon. That's going to be an even more ridiculous deal.

Let's just get back to talking about roads. Politics belong on a different forum.

Roads are one of the most politically charged topics there is. It's hard to discuss roads without wading into politics at least sometimes. I would concede your point that the Foxconn stuff is off-topic, but I'll throw in my 2 cents anyway. I remain skeptical about the deal, but will wait and see how it goes. If it gets the I-94 project done sometime in the next decade, then all the better.

[tchafe1978]

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From the Zoo Interchange project Facebook page, in 2018 they plan on resurfacing and restriping stretches of I-41 and I-894 for 8 lanes and building auxiliary lanes from Moorland Rd. to Hwy 100 on I-94. The resurfacing and restriping are interim solutions until funding can be found to properly reconstruct those stretches, according to comments from the Zoo Interchange page.

[SSOWorld]

They had the funds, then they squandered them in a political battle by delaying the projects.

[GeekJedi]

They had the funds, then they squandered them in a political battle by delaying the projects.

Yep. And for some reason they all think that kicking the can down the road is a reasonable solution.