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Same Model, Different Makes

Started by Henry, August 02, 2014, 02:08:03 PM

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Henry

Believe it or not, there have been a few nameplates of cars that have been shared by at least two manufacturers. Some great examples include two nameplates that originated on Cadillacs but are better known as Oldsmobile models: Calais and Aurora (although the latter was originally a Cadillac concept car from the late 80s/early 90s, and rocket-badged editions of the former often had "Cutlass" added to them, though mine didn't). Also, when Plymouth was shut down, the Voyager minivan continued as a Chrysler, serving as the lower-priced alternative to that make's popular Town & Country.

Any more examples?
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corco

#1
Raider- the Dodge Raider was a rebadged Mitsubishi Montero. The Mitsubishi Raider that appeared 20 years later was a rebadged Dodge Dakota.

The Prowler was also a Chrysler for a year or two after Plymouth went away. Same for the Prizm/Metro/Tracker for Geo, which all turned into Chevys with the same name.

Edsel sold a Ranger and a Villager. Those names were reused by Ford and Mercury in later years. Edsel also sold a Pacer, as did AMC several years later.

Speaking of AMC, the Rambler and Ambassador names migrated across a couple different make names, with Rambler even being its own make there for a while.

One of the more recent, unrelated ones- the new Buick Encore shares its name with the rare-but-sold-in-America Renault Encore.



corco

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Quote from: DesertDog on August 02, 2014, 04:01:42 PM
It's called "Badge Engineering" and is still a practice to this day.  For example the Chevy Trax and Buick Encore are rebadge of the same platform. It got so bad with the Big Three that brands like Pontiac, Plymoth, Mercury and Oldsmobile don't exist anymore.  I could sit here all day name of platform siblings.  Hell the entire GMC division is just a rebadge.

Badge Engineering is different from this (though the title of the post is deceiving)- this is the reuse of the same model name across different makes, not the same car sold across different makes with different badges.

An example of badge engineered cars that also meet the OP's criteria- the Dodge/Plymouth Neon and Dodge/Plymouth Colt

Big John

Or different companies:  Toyota Matrix and Pontiac Vibe was a joint venture amongst those 2.

CNGL-Leudimin

I can think of Kalos, first Daewoo then Chevrolet.

And all those nameplates that are under Opel in continental Europe, Vauxhall in the UK and Holden in Australia.
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1995hoo

I believe Subaru and Scion currently sell a car that is essentially the same car under different names....the BRZ and FR-S, if memory serves.

Since the OP referred to different manufacturers, I guess we wouldn't count all the Mercury cars that were basically Fords with a different name (the Sable was a Taurus, the Tracer an Escort, etc.).
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signalman

There was the Chevy Prism and the Geo Prism; both of which were just a Toyota Corolla.

Big John

Quote from: DesertDog on August 02, 2014, 06:41:42 PM
Quote from: signalman on August 02, 2014, 06:39:06 PM
There was the Chevy Prism and the Geo Prism; both of which were just a Toyota Corolla.

Don't forget the Geo/Chevy Metro and the Geo/Chevy Tracker.
And the 1986 version of the Chevy Nova

Stratuscaster

Dodge Aspen / Chrysler Aspen
Dodge Duster / Dacia Duster

For several years in the 2000s, Dodge cars were not sold in Canada, so you had the Chrysler Intrepid.

Voyager and Prowler became Chryslers, as noted previously, upon the death of Plymouth.

Early on, Vipers were sold in Europe as Chrysler Vipers.


Molandfreak

Chevy/GMC Suburban, pre-2000.

Dodge/Ram Ram

Dodge/Ram Dakota

Dodge/SRT Viper (why, Chrysler, why?)

Chrysler/Imperial Imperial
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 05, 2023, 08:24:57 PM
AASHTO attributes 28.5% of highway inventory shrink to bad road fan social media posts.

froggie

Dodge/Mitsubishi Lancer

Mitsubishi also used the Colt, mentioned by corco above as a Dodge/Plymouth.

Molandfreak

Quote from: DesertDog on August 02, 2014, 04:51:08 PM
In same vein with the NUMMI cars you have the Chevy Nova and Toyota Sprinter.  (not the same model name but weird nonetheless)
Didn't even realize this one until now, but Toyota/Mercedes Benz Sprinter.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 05, 2023, 08:24:57 PM
AASHTO attributes 28.5% of highway inventory shrink to bad road fan social media posts.

bugo

Hudson/AMC Hornet
Hudson/Holden Commodore
Ferrari/Pontiac GTO
Lincoln/Mercury Zephyr

6a


Quote from: Molandfreak on August 03, 2014, 02:43:29 AM
Quote from: DesertDog on August 02, 2014, 04:51:08 PM
In same vein with the NUMMI cars you have the Chevy Nova and Toyota Sprinter.  (not the same model name but weird nonetheless)
Didn't even realize this one until now, but Toyota/Mercedes Benz Sprinter.
We have a Sprinter at work that is branded Dodge. One look inside makes it plainly obvious it isn't an American based vehicle, but Dodge it is anyway.

SP Cook

The Sprinter was never a Toyota.  Back when it was Daimler-Chrysler, they were sold under the M-B, Dodge, and Freightliner nameplates, all called Sprinter and identical except for the badges.  (Freightliner was a part of Daimler before it married Chrysler and remained one when they divorced).  They are still sold under the M-B and Freightliner nameplates, assembled in South Carolina to avoid the so-called Chicken Tax.   Also sold in Europe (although called a "Crafter" rather than a Sprinter" by VW.


Molandfreak

Quote from: SP Cook on August 03, 2014, 06:20:47 PM
The Sprinter was never a Toyota.  Back when it was Daimler-Chrysler, they were sold under the M-B, Dodge, and Freightliner nameplates, all called Sprinter and identical except for the badges.  (Freightliner was a part of Daimler before it married Chrysler and remained one when they divorced).  They are still sold under the M-B and Freightliner nameplates, assembled in South Carolina to avoid the so-called Chicken Tax.   Also sold in Europe (although called a "Crafter" rather than a Sprinter" by VW.
Dude, the Toyota sprinter was an '80s compact car. Completely unrelated to the Freightliner/Dodge/Mercedes Benz sprinter. The two unrelated sprinters fit what this thread was intended to be about, not simple badge engineering across marques...
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Sprinter
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on December 05, 2023, 08:24:57 PM
AASHTO attributes 28.5% of highway inventory shrink to bad road fan social media posts.

bugo


Jardine

Friend of mine bought a new 1982 (might have been an '83) Pontiac T1000.

He was very proud of it till we told him it was a Chevette.  He wouldn't believe us for a few days, but he finally realized he had bought a turd. We really rode his ass over his accidentally buying a Chevette.

Bless his gumption, he paid it off in record time and bought a Ford F-150 to restore his street cred.


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bugo


DaBigE

Quote from: bugo on August 04, 2014, 04:09:55 AM
Quote from: DaBigE on August 04, 2014, 01:21:20 AM
Mercury Villager/Nissan Quest

Did you even read the first post?

So where's your snarky comment for Big John's post?

Quote from: Big John on August 02, 2014, 04:49:02 PM
Or different companies:  Toyota Matrix and Pontiac Vibe was a joint venture amongst those 2.
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Henry

Back to the subject at hand:

Oldsmobile/Opel Omega
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From the 80's/90's
Buick Century/Chevy Celebrity/Olds Cutlass Ciera
Chevy Cavalier/Buick Skyhawk/Cadillac Cimarron
Buick Lesabre/Olds Delta 88/Pontiac Bonneville
Pontiac Grand Am/Buick Somerset then Skylark/Chevy Malibu
Buick Regal/Olds Cutlass Supreme/Chevy Lumina (2 door=Monte Carlo), Lumina later rebranded Impala.
Buick Park Avenue/ Cadillac Seville

Ford Edge and the Lincoln MKX are the same platform today.

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bugo

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT BADGE ENGINEERING!  The subject is about nameplates that have been used by more than one marque.  Can't you folks read?

6a

The subject says 'same model, different makes' which could be interpreted either way. Perhaps it should say 'same name, different manufacturer'.



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