US 71 in Oklahoma?

[bugo]

From the 1927 Oklahoma official map:



Was US 71 actually going to be routed through Poteau?  I have never seen another map that corroborates US 71 in Oklahoma, but it's possible that it was a temporary routing because the road through Poteau was better at the time (I have no idea if that's true or not, I'm just making a guess.)  Lots of "original" US routes were actually temporary routes and it's possible that lots of these classic alignments were never signed.

[US71]

I've never seen that before. Didn't 271 follow that route at one time? Maybe the mapmaker got confused?

It would be interesting to ask the Oklahoma DOT to see if they know anything.

[bugo]

US 271 originally ran from Mena to Fort Smith along current US 59 and 271.  The exact route is not known as maps of the era are contradictory.  Here's a blog I wrote on the subject:

http://bugo348.blogspot.com/2010/06/us-271.html

[agentsteel53]

awesome stuff!

for the record, I've never seen an Oklahoma US 71 or 371 shield.

but I have seen a 260. 



was that made up based on the 1925 preliminary routing?

[US71]

awesome stuff!

for the record, I've never seen an Oklahoma US 71 or 371 shield.

but I have seen a 260. 

Funky looking sign, there. Where did you find that?

[agentsteel53]

it's a photo that has been floating around.  no one knows where it came from.

the sign is the earliest standard - OKLA up top, custom fonts. 

[bugo]

US 260 is now US 266.

[US71]

US 260 is now US 266.

In that case, it might be a relic of the 60/66 squabble. 

[agentsteel53]

Oklahoma really jumped the gun, then.  at least they were able to reuse the 60s intended for 66 on the route that actually became 60.

so that makes me wonder ... are ALL the OKLA (as opposed to OKLAHOMA) shields done before the renumbering?  i.e. early 26 or so?  late 25? 

the 60 and 260 are the only OKLA I have seen.

but I've also seen a 1945 (!) signage manual that showed a drawing of an OKLA.

[US71]

Oklahoma really jumped the gun, then.  at least they were able to reuse the 60s intended for 66 on the route that actually became 60.

so that makes me wonder ... are ALL the OKLA (as opposed to OKLAHOMA) shields done before the renumbering?  i.e. early 26 or so?  late 25? 

the 60 and 260 are the only OKLA I have seen.

but I've also seen a 1945 (!) signage manual that showed a drawing of an OKLA.

I'd love to see that sign manual. I suppose duplicating such a sign would be a near impossibility?

[agentsteel53]

I emailed you.  a flat one can be made, but embossed... good luck with that!

[Mapmikey]

From the 1927 Oklahoma official map:



Was US 71 actually going to be routed through Poteau?  I have never seen another map that corroborates US 71 in Oklahoma, but it's possible that it was a temporary routing because the road through Poteau was better at the time (I have no idea if that's true or not, I'm just making a guess.)  Lots of "original" US routes were actually temporary routes and it's possible that lots of these classic alignments were never signed.

The 1927-28 Virginia Official Maps have a US map on its reverse that shows the US route system but only labels routes ending in 0 or 1, plus US 66.  It is done by General Drafting and it shows US 71 in Oklahoma.

Mapmikey

[agentsteel53]

interesting how even then, US-66 was considered an important route.

[US71]

I appear to be missing a couple maps, but going back to 1931, I can find nothing on US 71 or US 371 in Oklahoma. US 270 is close to its current alignment coming into Acorn, (though going about a mile south to connect to 71)  but there is no sign of US 59.

Somewhere I have/had a 1926 map of Arkansas, but it is missing at this time.

[Scott5114]

Hey Jake, ever seen an Oklahoma US 164?

[bugo]

US 260 is now US 266.

In that case, it might be a relic of the 60/66 squabble. 

Absolutely.  Several routes were renumbered because of the 60/62/66 shitfit.

[bugo]

Or a Kansas US 270 or US 177?

[agentsteel53]

Hey Jake, ever seen an Oklahoma US 164?

nope, nor a Texas.  I have seen neither a field photo nor a surviving example of that 164.