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Billy F 1988

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What's up, AARoads roadgeeks! It's Billy again! It's been a while. Been doing some moving around and other personal things. Anyways, on with the subject at hand.

So, if anyone on this site lives in Missoula, Montana or has visited the city from elsewhere, you will notice that Orange Street is getting a new roundabout. Yeah. No surprise there. The location of it is at Interstate 90 and Orange Street, exit 104, the original brianchild of US 93 Business and pre-Reserve Street US 93 days.

As you can pretty much tell, I am as pure blooded Montanan as you will ever find and I am not a fan of roundabouts. There is also one at South Avenue and 38th Street in the new Fort Missoula park area just west of the main center of town. Again, not a fan of that roundabout either.

I'm just not a fan of roundabouts at all. Period. But that's what we're getting on Orange Street. I guess in Missoula engineering's mindset, they think roundabouts are better than lights. Don't know about that. We'll see how this goes.
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Re: Oh, Montana, Montana, Montana. Why do you need more roundabouts?
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2017, 09:30:38 PM »

So what is it that you don't like about roundabouts? I'll admit, they're not a perfect fit for every location. But they work great in rural areas. And Suburban areas. Not so much urban areas. Though the mini roundabout, as seen in the UK and some cities in the US, seems to be a good fit for low-volume urban streets.

As for the Orange Street Roundabout at hand here, I think the Orange Street Corridor would normally be too dense for roundabouts to work. But, because this roundabout would be at the very edge of the urban area, and the legs would involve a freeway off-ramp (good fit for a roundabout because of the random arrival time of cars), I think this one will be a success. Might be better for pedestrians too. That crosswalk at 3rd/5th looks kind of dangerous.
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Re: Oh, Montana, Montana, Montana. Why do you need more roundabouts?
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2017, 09:50:32 PM »

I think a roundabout will work great on Orange Street - I've used that interchange many times in my life, and it seems very well suited for that configuration.

MDT is starting to get fairly roundabout happy - there are a whole bunch on the west side of Billings too on Secondary 532.

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Re: Oh, Montana, Montana, Montana. Why do you need more roundabouts?
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2017, 09:19:50 PM »

From the Missoulian, here's a pic of the Orange Street roundabout:

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Re: Oh, Montana, Montana, Montana. Why do you need more roundabouts?
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2017, 06:50:05 PM »

Damn, that's quick! Wasn't even a few days ago and it's near completion already.

I won't be surprised if Van Buren Street and I-90 (exit 105) is next on the MDT's hot list of traffic circling.
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