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Started by webny99, May 23, 2017, 04:39:10 PM

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webny99

What do you think are the top 5 busiest major commerce/trucking corridors in the US that have no interstates? You could suggest four-lane roads, or even expressways, but no corridors with freeways or interstates.

Buffalo>I-390 must be up there somewhere. 
I've always thought central AR/MO was lacking north/south freeways, but of course I know very little about that area, so won't deem it a "major commerce/trucking corridor"  :D


froggie


formulanone

#2
The ones I keep hearing about on this forum are:

Austin - Houston
Phoenix - Las Vegas (this is the proposed I-11, right?)
Denver - Dallas
Memphis - St. Louis
Tampa/Gainesville - Jacksonville

CA 99 is isn't really "missing", but it's an incomplete and outdated freeway.

hotdogPi

Clinched, minus I-93 (I'm missing a few miles and my file is incorrect)

Traveled, plus US 13, 44, and 50, and several state routes

I will be in Burlington VT for the eclipse.

formulanone

Quote from: 1 on May 23, 2017, 07:04:59 PM
Quote from: formulanone on May 23, 2017, 06:45:25 PM
Memphis - St. Louis

Why doesn't I-55 work?

Sorry, meant to say Kansas City (mixed up the locations in my head). There's no direct SE-NW diagonal across Missouri.

jp the roadgeek

Hartford-Providence
Charlotte-Nashville
Philadelphia-Buffalo
Jacksonville-Atlanta
Bay Area-Las Vegas
Interstates I've clinched: 97, 290 (MA), 291 (CT), 291 (MA), 293, 295 (DE-NJ-PA), 295 (RI-MA), 384, 391, 395 (CT-MA), 395 (MD), 495 (DE), 610 (LA), 684, 691, 695 (MD), 695 (NY), 795 (MD)

ilpt4u

Quote from: 1 on May 23, 2017, 07:04:59 PM
Quote from: formulanone on May 23, 2017, 06:45:25 PM
Memphis - St. Louis

Why doesn't I-55 work?
Better yet, I-55 + I-57

Tho a "modified" I-57, that goes straight South leaving IL, instead of SW (I-57) or SE (I-24), enters KY, and then follows, generally, the I-69 Western KY/Northern TN route to enter Memphis from the NE, would be a little more direct.

I do find the new I-57 Extension to Little Rock from Sikeston an interesting idea, and Route-wise, basically makes I-57 and I-30 one long corridor -- assuming the missing sections in SE MO and NE AR are eventually built to Interstate Standard, from Chicago to Dallas

I'd rather have the missing I-24 link, from Marion, IL to STL, completing a direct Atlanta and Nashville to STL route, without needing the I-57/I-64 jog. Plus, locally, it would connect Far Southern IL much better to the STL Metro area. I-57 is nasty with heavy truck traffic from the I-57/I-24 and I-57/I-64 junctions, due to both the Northeast-Southwest traffic of I-57 and the Southeast-Northwest traffic of I-24

For CKC aka Chicago-Kansas City, we have the CKC Expressway, IL/MO 110, tho its really not the best route in IL. The MO side of the CKC/110 isn't a bad route, tho. I haven't driven it, but it can't be much worse than C-KC via I-88/80 to I-35 in Des Moines, or I-55 to I-70 in STL

US71

Quote from: webny99 on May 23, 2017, 04:39:10 PM
What do you think are the top 5 busiest major commerce/trucking corridors in the US that have no interstates? You could suggest four-lane roads, or even expressways, but no corridors with freeways or interstates.

Buffalo>I-390 must be up there somewhere. 
I've always thought central AR/MO was lacking north/south freeways, but of course I know very little about that area, so won't deem it a "major commerce/trucking corridor"  :D

NW Arkansas is more a  "major commerce/trucking corridor" with Tyson, Wal-Mart, and JB Hunt. 
Like Alice I Try To Believe Three Impossible Things Before Breakfast

pianocello

Quote from: froggie on May 23, 2017, 05:03:43 PM
https://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/data_and_statistics/by_subject/freight/freight_facts_2015/chapter3/fig3_5

Pick out your thickest gray lines.


Most of the thicker gray lines are still either freeway-quality or proposed interstates, though (I'm looking at CA-99, the I-69 corridors in Texas, and the Kentucky Parkways, among others). Interestingly, some of the other thick gray lines haven't been mentioned in this thread are ones that I never would have guessed:

Lubbock-Abilene
Wichita Falls-Fort Worth
St. Paul-Rochester
Jackson-Hattiesburg-Gulfport
Chicago-Fort Wayne (ok, I can see this one)
Davenport, IA -> Valparaiso, IN -> Ames, IA -> Orlando, FL -> Gainesville, FL -> Evansville, IN

sparker

Quote from: pianocello on May 23, 2017, 09:59:42 PM
Quote from: froggie on May 23, 2017, 05:03:43 PM
https://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/data_and_statistics/by_subject/freight/freight_facts_2015/chapter3/fig3_5

Pick out your thickest gray lines.


Most of the thicker gray lines are still either freeway-quality or proposed interstates, though (I'm looking at CA-99, the I-69 corridors in Texas, and the Kentucky Parkways, among others). Interestingly, some of the other thick gray lines haven't been mentioned in this thread are ones that I never would have guessed:

Lubbock-Abilene
Wichita Falls-Fort Worth
St. Paul-Rochester
Jackson-Hattiesburg-Gulfport
Chicago-Fort Wayne (ok, I can see this one)

Besides these, there were a few other "thick grays" that were, IMO, unexpected:

(1) Columbus (OH)-Ft. Wayne (US 33?)
(2) WKY parkway (been on it several times, didn't notice any particular heavy truck usage)
(3) US 30 east of Grand Island, NE
(4) US 281/nascent I-69C in TX (maybe someone was prescient on this one).

Expected/reinforced previous potential I-corridors:

(1) US 287 Amarillo-Ft. Worth
(2) US 395 north of Pasco, WA
(3) CA 58 between I-5 & I-15 (hello, Captain Obvious!)
(4) Northern reaches of Avenue of Saints (NW of Waterloo, IA)

02 Park Ave

#10
H'burg - State College
Williamsport - State College
Burlington - Montreal
JAX - Ocala
Myrtle Beach - Lumberton
C-o-H

vdeane

Quote from: webny99 on May 24, 2017, 04:18:25 PM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on May 23, 2017, 07:24:07 PM
East Coast-Buffalo

FTFY  :bigass:
Last I checked, Boston is east coast, so I guess that Buffalo-Boston highway I always assumed was real is actually a product of the Fictional Highways board.  And I could have sworn I've been on it too!
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: 02 Park Ave on June 14, 2017, 11:31:54 PM
H'burg - State College
Williamsport - State College
Burlington - Montreal
JAX - Ocala
Myrtle Beach - Lumberton
Burlington-Montreal is an interstate for as long as is possible.
God-emperor of Alanland, king of all the goats and goat-like creatures

Current Interstate map I am making:

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/edit?hl=en&mid=1PEDVyNb1skhnkPkgXi8JMaaudM2zI-Y&ll=29.05778059819179%2C-82.48856825&z=5

sparker

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on June 15, 2017, 02:01:42 PM
Quote from: 02 Park Ave on June 14, 2017, 11:31:54 PM
H'burg - State College
Williamsport - State College
Burlington - Montreal
JAX - Ocala
Myrtle Beach - Lumberton
Burlington-Montreal is an interstate for as long as is possible.

I think 02's post was referring to the completion of Autoroute 35 in Quebec -- something planned but repeatedly delayed for decades.



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