AARoads Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length

Author Topic: Pennsylvania  (Read 141335 times)

Bitmapped

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 340
  • Location: Morgantown, WV
  • Last Login: June 26, 2017, 07:37:21 PM
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #725 on: May 09, 2017, 05:09:34 PM »

According to the Type 5 map for Lebanon city, there is a small section of state-maintained US 422 (SR 0422) on the eastern edge of the city. See http://www.dot7.state.pa.us/BPR_pdf_files/Maps/Type5/38301.pdf
Logged

Roadsguy

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 763
  • Age: 18
  • Location: Here
  • Last Login: Today at 02:41:44 PM
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #726 on: May 09, 2017, 05:27:21 PM »

According to the Type 5 map for Lebanon city, there is a small section of state-maintained US 422 (SR 0422) on the eastern edge of the city. See http://www.dot7.state.pa.us/BPR_pdf_files/Maps/Type5/38301.pdf

The city line actually runs along 422 WB and 897 here, so the SE quadrant of the Cumberland-897 intersection isn't part of the city. Also, iTMS and the little LRS paddle signs indicate SR 0422 as stopping at 897 and not poking into the city.
Logged
After 95revive we need 76fix.

sbeaver44

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 195
  • Accountant/Roadgeek

  • Age: 29
  • Location: Lewisberry, Pennsylvania
  • Last Login: Today at 12:58:00 PM
    • Flickr - WestPA31
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #727 on: May 09, 2017, 05:45:07 PM »

According to the Type 5 map for Lebanon city, there is a small section of state-maintained US 422 (SR 0422) on the eastern edge of the city. See http://www.dot7.state.pa.us/BPR_pdf_files/Maps/Type5/38301.pdf

The city line actually runs along 422 WB and 897 here, so the SE quadrant of the Cumberland-897 intersection isn't part of the city. Also, iTMS and the little LRS paddle signs indicate SR 0422 as stopping at 897 and not poking into the city.
That 422/897 intersection always looks weird to me, since 422 W is otherwise a one way street through Lebanon.

470 E Cumberland St

https://goo.gl/maps/VPWygXcrvsG2

Nexus 6P

Logged

74/171FAN

  • *
  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 1446
  • Age: 25
  • Location: Harrisburg, PA
  • Last Login: Today at 06:55:23 AM
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #728 on: May 13, 2017, 08:58:55 AM »

FOX43:  Mount Rose Avenue roadway project behind schedule, according to PennDOT

I had heard about this some while working with District 8, but the additional excavation mentioned in the article is just part of the problem.

WFMZ:  Work to fix falling rock problem closes Route 724 in Cumru
Quote
CUMRU TWP., Pa. - The threat of falling rocks has prompted PennDOT to close a stretch of Route 724 in Berks County for the next 10 days.

The stretch of Route 724 between Interstate 176 and Route 10 in Cumru Township was closed Monday so that crews can address an ongoing problem with rocks sliding off the adjacent hillside and onto the road.

"It's a little bit scary going through there," Joe Pichler told 69 News last week.

PennDOT will clean up rocks that have fallen onto the road and replace the fence that runs between the road and the hillside.
« Last Edit: May 15, 2017, 04:34:33 PM by 74/171FAN »
Logged
I am now a PennDOT employee.  My opinions/views do not necessarily reflect the opinions/views of PennDOT.

jemacedo9

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 318
  • Age: 44
  • Location: Phoenixville PA / Rochester NY
  • Last Login: Today at 02:52:12 PM
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #729 on: May 17, 2017, 02:52:49 PM »

New website for the US 30 Coatesville-Downingtown Bypass reconstruction (AND WIDENING) to occur next decade (Chester County/SE PA)...

http://www.us30-chesco.com/
Logged

PHLBOS

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 4771
  • Age: 51
  • Location: Greater Philly, PA
  • Last Login: Today at 01:26:58 PM
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #730 on: May 17, 2017, 05:06:52 PM »

New website for the US 30 Coatesville-Downingtown Bypass reconstruction (AND WIDENING) to occur next decade (Chester County/SE PA)...
http://www.us30-chesco.com/
So US 30 between PA 82 & Business US 30, east of Downingtown is being widened from 4 to 6 lanes.  Isn't such going to create a bottleneck along the newer 4-lane Exton stretch between Business US 30 & US 202?
Logged
GPS does NOT equal GOD

Beltway

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 1091
  • Roads to the Future

  • Location: Richmond, VA
  • Last Login: Today at 01:26:33 PM
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #731 on: May 17, 2017, 05:16:49 PM »

New website for the US 30 Coatesville-Downingtown Bypass reconstruction (AND WIDENING) to occur next decade (Chester County/SE PA)...

http://www.us30-chesco.com/

The eastern half will be widened to 6 lanes with 12-foot right and left shoulders.  Very good!

Are there any plans to widen the US-30 Exton Bypass?

briantroutman

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 1359
  • Location: Philadelphia
  • Last Login: Today at 02:54:51 PM
    • briantroutman.com/land
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #732 on: May 17, 2017, 06:44:05 PM »

Isn't such going to create a bottleneck along the newer 4-lane Exton stretch between Business US 30 & US 202?

Are there any plans to widen the US-30 Exton Bypass?

I don’t know if there are any widening plans farther east, but according to PennDOT’s Chester County traffic volume map, US 30 AADT peaks at 75,000 at Downingtown before declining to 61,000 west of PA 100 and then dropping to just 38,000 between PA 100 and US 202.

In other words, close to half—if not more than half—of US 30 traffic turns over at the PA 100 interchange. And as demonstrated the by long lines of vehicles stopped in the right lane or on the shoulder of eastbound US 30 approaching that interchange at peak times, the interchange itself is woefully under-designed. So arguably, widening the freeway farther west in Downingtown isn’t creating a new bottleneck so much as it is moving an existing bottleneck further westward—choking traffic heading into a chokepoint.

The additional lane capacity needed between the eastern end of Downingtown and PA 100 would be in the form of dedicated lanes to and from PA 100. But more pressing is a complete reconfiguration of the interchange itself—probably to include streamlined access to an expanded park-and-ride facility at the Exton train station.

Widening the eastern half of the Exton Bypass is probably unnecessary.
« Last Edit: May 17, 2017, 11:48:34 PM by briantroutman »
Logged

qguy

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 332
  • Age: 54
  • Location: Lebanon, PA
  • Last Login: June 27, 2017, 10:23:27 PM
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #733 on: May 18, 2017, 06:40:45 PM »

Until sometime in the 1970s, PennDOH/PennDOT envisioned PA 100 being upgraded to a freeway from its split with US 202 just north of West Chester to I-78/US 22. Certain features in places along this length, like interchanges and surface expressway design standards, are a legacy of that.
Logged

ixnay

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 514
  • Location: U.S. East Coast
  • Last Login: Today at 07:16:52 AM
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #734 on: May 18, 2017, 08:03:21 PM »

I don’t know if there are any widening plans farther east, but according to PennDOT’s Chester County traffic volume map, US 30 AADT peaks at 75,000 at Downingtown before declining to 61,000 west of PA 100 and then dropping to just 38,000 between PA 100 and US 202.

In other words, close to half—if not more than half—of US 30 traffic turns over at the PA 100 interchange.

What's in Exton and/or West Chester that causes the dropoff on 30 east of 100?

ixnay
Logged

jemacedo9

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 318
  • Age: 44
  • Location: Phoenixville PA / Rochester NY
  • Last Login: Today at 02:52:12 PM
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #735 on: May 19, 2017, 08:00:13 AM »

I don’t know if there are any widening plans farther east, but according to PennDOT’s Chester County traffic volume map, US 30 AADT peaks at 75,000 at Downingtown before declining to 61,000 west of PA 100 and then dropping to just 38,000 between PA 100 and US 202.

In other words, close to half—if not more than half—of US 30 traffic turns over at the PA 100 interchange.

What's in Exton and/or West Chester that causes the dropoff on 30 east of 100?

ixnay

Commuters.  There are a lot of corporate centers and retail centers in the Exton area, along Business 30 and along 100.  With the backups at the 100 exit, I'm sure many people exit at Business 30 to get to Exton.  As far as 100 south, West Chester is the county seat, so the courthouse and county gov't are there.  Plus, many people work in the Wilmington area with those Corp HQ and commute down 202 south, or in the Newtown SQ area that take 202 South to PA 3 East.
Logged

Chris19001

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 105
  • Location: Abington, PA
  • Last Login: Today at 01:27:13 PM
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #736 on: May 19, 2017, 12:41:06 PM »

Commuters.  There are a lot of corporate centers and retail centers in the Exton area, along Business 30 and along 100.  With the backups at the 100 exit, I'm sure many people exit at Business 30 to get to Exton.  As far as 100 south, West Chester is the county seat, so the courthouse and county gov't are there.  Plus, many people work in the Wilmington area with those Corp HQ and commute down 202 south, or in the Newtown SQ area that take 202 South to PA 3 East.
And the regional rail station is just across the street at the interchange.  It is one of the few convenient "park and ride" stations on the SEPTA network.
Logged

briantroutman

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 1359
  • Location: Philadelphia
  • Last Login: Today at 02:54:51 PM
    • briantroutman.com/land
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #737 on: May 19, 2017, 10:21:21 PM »

^ Agreed on the suburb-to-suburb commuting patterns, and while I initially thought commuters parking at Exton might be a significant factor, SEPTA’s website indicates that the parking lot has less than 650 spaces. That might make a dent in traffic volumes, but it’s just a little over 1% of the AADT of US 30 west of PA 100.

In addition to the areas served directly by PA 100 (Eagle, Lionville, Exton, West Chester) and by US 202 south of West Chester (Concordville, Wilmington), this is a popular “jumping off point” to avoid the nearly constant traffic pinch on I-76 east of King of Prussia and on I-476. Traffic makes the connection to PA 113, PA 100, and onto the Turnpike for destinations north and east—or heads south on PA 100 and disperses across PA 3, PA 352, US 1, and a number of other routes and back roads into western and southern Delaware County and South Philadelphia.
Logged

74/171FAN

  • *
  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 1446
  • Age: 25
  • Location: Harrisburg, PA
  • Last Login: Today at 06:55:23 AM
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #738 on: May 31, 2017, 07:13:32 AM »

Construction starts June 11th to put auxiliary lanes (or more or less extend the existing ones from the US 22 split) on I-78/US 22 from PA 100 to the US 22 split.(The Morning Call)

I remember the merge of US 22 WB onto I-78 WB there was a bottleneck (especially on Fridays) when I went to Allentown a lot last year for work.
Logged
I am now a PennDOT employee.  My opinions/views do not necessarily reflect the opinions/views of PennDOT.

jemacedo9

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 318
  • Age: 44
  • Location: Phoenixville PA / Rochester NY
  • Last Login: Today at 02:52:12 PM
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #739 on: June 09, 2017, 03:11:10 PM »

Governor Wolf Joins Philadelphia Officials for Funding Announcement on I-95

http://www.penndot.gov/pages/all-news-details.aspx?newsid=344


Quote
Over the next decade, an upcoming phase of the reconstruction project is a $3 billion to $4 billion investment to rebuild the five-mile stretch, a portion already below ground but mostly on viaduct, between I-676 and Broad Street in South Philadelphia, but all of which impacts the city's connection to the Delaware River. On the north end of this section, at Penn's Landing, a new and expanded cap over I-95 will reconnect Penn's Landing to the city. On the south end of this section, the reconstruction project will improve access to the growing Philadelphia port complex.

The state, city, and foundation will partner on underwriting the $225 million cost of replacing and expanding the existing cap over I-95 and Christopher Columbus Boulevard. The project would extend the cap beyond the current boundaries between Chestnut and Walnut streets and extend it over Columbus Boulevard.
Logged

Mergingtraffic

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 1404
  • Location: NYC-CT
  • Last Login: June 27, 2017, 07:11:18 PM
    • My Flickr alias: MergingTraffic
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #740 on: June 12, 2017, 07:07:30 PM »

There's an EB stub on I-176, what was that for?

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.1664994,-75.886184,749m/data=!3m1!1e3

Any update on the US-219 stub around Somerset?

Any other stubs with a future to them?
Logged
I only take pics of good looking signs. Long live non-reflective button copy!
MergingTraffic https://www.flickr.com/photos/98731835@N05/

briantroutman

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 1359
  • Location: Philadelphia
  • Last Login: Today at 02:54:51 PM
    • briantroutman.com/land
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #741 on: June 12, 2017, 07:13:48 PM »

There's an EB stub on I-176, what was that for?

The Runaway Truck Expressway—which was built in its entirety: https://goo.gl/maps/Az6hLBo5SUP2
Logged

rickmastfan67

  • The Invisible One
  • *
  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 2436
  • I want I-67 in PA!!!!

  • Age: 32
  • Location: Pittsburgh, Pa, USA
  • Last Login: June 27, 2017, 08:55:32 PM
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #742 on: June 13, 2017, 01:14:51 AM »

Pete from Boston

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 5185
  • Location: Massachusetts, and all the roads radiating out of it
  • Last Login: June 25, 2017, 12:30:02 PM
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #743 on: June 13, 2017, 07:00:18 AM »

People should appreciate the novelty that is Breezewood.  Yes, there is stop-and-go traffic at times but where else on our Interstate system is something quite like this?  I never did mind driving through Breezewood--in fact, I would purposely stop there just to eat or fuel up.  Building a new interchange bypassing Breezewood would financially put a big dent in the area.  If Breezewood is such a pain to people then they should find a way not to drive through Breezewood.  There are ways to avoid it--if it is such a hassle.  I, myself, find Breezewood to be unique and a throwback to our early days of the Interstate system--and if I need to drive through there to go to a certain destination, then I will.

WTF?  Yeah, it's unique -- but a throwback?  First time I've heard anyone nostalgic for the times when the Interstate network was still in bits & pieces.  Sort of reminds me of that old Dana Carvey SNL sketch where the elderly gentleman waxes on about unpleasant or even cruel practices of his youth, concluding with the phrase "And we LIKED it!" :-D  Oh well, to each their own, I suppose.

I also like Breezewood.  And I am nostalgic for those days as well.  You don't have to want something back to be nostalgic about it.  I appreciate the fascinating transition into the era of Interstates and the collision of old and new worlds.  What historically-interested person wouldn't find such a period of change remarkable?
Logged

Roadsguy

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 763
  • Age: 18
  • Location: Here
  • Last Login: Today at 02:41:44 PM
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #744 on: June 15, 2017, 04:44:12 PM »

What's the current status of the US 6/11 reconstruction from Factoryville to Clarks Summit?
Logged
After 95revive we need 76fix.

empirestate

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 3334
  • Last Login: Today at 01:13:52 PM
    • Empire State Roads
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #745 on: June 15, 2017, 09:24:39 PM »

People should appreciate the novelty that is Breezewood.  Yes, there is stop-and-go traffic at times but where else on our Interstate system is something quite like this?  I never did mind driving through Breezewood--in fact, I would purposely stop there just to eat or fuel up.  Building a new interchange bypassing Breezewood would financially put a big dent in the area.  If Breezewood is such a pain to people then they should find a way not to drive through Breezewood.  There are ways to avoid it--if it is such a hassle.  I, myself, find Breezewood to be unique and a throwback to our early days of the Interstate system--and if I need to drive through there to go to a certain destination, then I will.

WTF?  Yeah, it's unique -- but a throwback?  First time I've heard anyone nostalgic for the times when the Interstate network was still in bits & pieces.  Sort of reminds me of that old Dana Carvey SNL sketch where the elderly gentleman waxes on about unpleasant or even cruel practices of his youth, concluding with the phrase "And we LIKED it!" :-D  Oh well, to each their own, I suppose.

I also like Breezewood.  And I am nostalgic for those days as well.  You don't have to want something back to be nostalgic about it.  I appreciate the fascinating transition into the era of Interstates and the collision of old and new worlds.  What historically-interested person wouldn't find such a period of change remarkable?

I also appreciate it for what it is, and one thing I've noticed about this forum as compared to m.t.r. is that I'm even more in the minority with that opinion here than I was there!
Logged

mariethefoxy

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 312
  • I'm a traveling fox :3

  • Age: 30
  • Location: Long Island
  • Last Login: June 27, 2017, 07:29:52 PM
    • Magic Foxy Artworks
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #746 on: June 17, 2017, 10:36:42 PM »

is there any plans to connect the lancaster and downington area sections of the US 30 freeway?
Logged

Alps

  • Everybody Obeys the Octagon
  • *
  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 10870
  • Hope for the Alan!

  • Age: 34
  • Location: New Jersey
  • Last Login: June 27, 2017, 11:09:47 PM
    • Alps' Roads
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #747 on: June 18, 2017, 01:46:37 AM »

is there any plans to connect the lancaster and downington area sections of the US 30 freeway?
no
Logged
~ Steve
http://www.alpsroads.net
I've listened many times, and I still can't figure out what the fox says.

"YOUR NAME IS NAMED AFTER A BUTT"

briantroutman

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 1359
  • Location: Philadelphia
  • Last Login: Today at 02:54:51 PM
    • briantroutman.com/land
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #748 on: June 18, 2017, 02:11:17 AM »

is there any plans to connect the lancaster and downington area sections of the US 30 freeway?
no

To my knowledge, it’s never even been brought up as some state representative’s pipe dream. At the moment, the only items on PennDOT’s twelve-year plan relevant to this section are various resurfacing projects and intersection improvements. In fact, PennDOT just spent about $10 million on a slight realignment of the westbound lanes at the PA 41 intersection in Gap.
Logged

74/171FAN

  • *
  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 1446
  • Age: 25
  • Location: Harrisburg, PA
  • Last Login: Today at 06:55:23 AM
Re: Pennsylvania
« Reply #749 on: June 18, 2017, 07:16:27 AM »

is there any plans to connect the lancaster and downington area sections of the US 30 freeway?
no

I had actually thought about this last night.  I would have to look into this more, but I feel that if the Goat Path Expressway was ever truly brought back, it should function as mainly a US 30 bypass of that area and then at most maybe a spur to connect PA 23 to PA 10 and I-176.  Note that I am unsure how east the ROW continues for it east of PA 772.
Logged
I am now a PennDOT employee.  My opinions/views do not necessarily reflect the opinions/views of PennDOT.

 


Opinions expressed here on belong solely to the poster and do not represent or reflect the opinions or beliefs of AARoads, its creators and/or associates.