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US71

Quote from: cjk374 on July 31, 2017, 04:59:41 PM
Quote from: US71 on July 31, 2017, 02:11:27 PM

217 at Waldron is another: it's just an airport access road.


What??? It wasn't numbered AR 980???  :-o :-o :paranoid: :paranoid:

Begins at Bus 71 in Waldron, crosses mainline 71, eventually dead ends at what passes for an airport in west of Waldron
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TreeTunnel

The new section of 162 opened this week sometime between Wednesday afternoon and Thursday afternoon.

US71

Quote from: TreeTunnel on August 05, 2017, 03:53:00 PM
The new section of 162 opened this week sometime between Wednesday afternoon and Thursday afternoon.
I'll have to check it out when I get home


SM-G930V

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yakra

Requesting photos!  :sombrero:
Particularly interested in knowing the full signed extent of US64Bus, and AR162.
"Officer, I'm always careful to drive the speed limit no matter where I am and that's what I was doin'." Said "No, you weren't," she said, "Yes, I was." He said, "Madam, I just clocked you at 22 MPH," and she said "That's the speed limit," he said "No ma'am, that's the route numbah!"  - Gary Crocker

robbones

Quote from: yakra on August 07, 2017, 02:55:41 AM
Requesting photos!  :sombrero:
Particularly interested in knowing the full signed extent of US64Bus, and AR162.
Here are a few pictures I took. I did this on the fly so sorry in advance.

LGL64VL


US71

I see they fixed the South 162 from a couple weeks ago at I-40. Does 162 actually extend that far?
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robbones

#306
Quote from: US71 on August 08, 2017, 08:57:25 PM
I see they fixed the South 162 from a couple weeks ago at I-40. Does 162 actually extend that far?
Before the realignment, US 71B and AR 162 overlapped from US 64 to I 40/US 71. Now I'm assuming that AR 162 overlaps US 64 heading west then turning north to meet up with US 71B


bugo

Here's an excerpt from an older AHTD section maps. AR 162 goes all the way to I-40. US 64B (technically US 64C) ends at AR 162. I have no idea how it is now. I am guessing there's an exception for AR 162 along US 64.

Does US 71B actually end at I-540 in Van Buren or even at US 64 in Ft Smith?


robbones

It's either I 40/US 71 or the intersection of old AR 162

LGL64VL


US71

Quote from: bugo on August 09, 2017, 01:59:44 AM
Here's an excerpt from an older AHTD section maps. AR 162 goes all the way to I-40. US 64B (technically US 64C) ends at AR 162. I have no idea how it is now. I am guessing there's an exception for AR 162 along US 64.

Does US 71B actually end at I-540 in Van Buren or even at US 64 in Ft Smith?


No. North terminus is I-40/US 71 (Exit 13) at Alma  South terminus is I-540/US 71 (Exit 12) in Fort Smith.
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bugo

Technically, 71B ends at the US 64 intersection in downtown Ft Smith. It may or may not be signed along US 64 but the part between I-40 and US 64 in Alma is officially AR 162 and there is no exception along that road.

US71

Quote from: bugo on August 17, 2017, 04:59:28 AM
Technically, 71B ends at the US 64 intersection in downtown Ft Smith. It may or may not be signed along US 64 but the part between I-40 and US 64 in Alma is officially AR 162 and there is no exception along that road.

Yet until 2-3 weeks ago, it was never posted as 162.
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bugo

#312
It was signed as AR 162 the last time I was there (although I don't recall how long ago that was).

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4880663,-94.2261436,3a,75y,189.32h,86.58t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sgT83-fPInTKUMzNVuQD7_w!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

US71

Observations:

71B now appears to end at the former 64/162 junction.

North to I-40 it is now AR 162, but appears to be a separate entity from the new 162 east of Alma. There are no co-signs for 64/162 , though a separate junction sign for 162 along WB 64.

There are still two sign assemblies north of I-40 indicating you are approaching 71B. The ramp signs for both EB and WB I-40 still indicate 71 and 71B.

Also the 71B error still exists east of Alma (should be Jct 64B, but posted as 71B). 64B itself appears to still end where 162 turned to downtown.

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yakra

Quote from: US71 on August 18, 2017, 06:21:18 PM
Also the 71B error still exists east of Alma (should be Jct 64B, but posted as 71B).
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4882243,-94.2040773,3a,18.7y,294.97h,87.55t/data=!3m9!1e1!3m7!1svvZO5sNJUVZARu_t9EokEw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!9m2!1b1!2i41

Quote from: US71 on August 18, 2017, 06:21:18 PM
64B itself appears to still end where 162 turned to downtown.
So, there's still signage to and at Fayetteville Ave, but presumably no more signage for 162?

Is there an at-grade 64B/162 junction?
"Officer, I'm always careful to drive the speed limit no matter where I am and that's what I was doin'." Said "No, you weren't," she said, "Yes, I was." He said, "Madam, I just clocked you at 22 MPH," and she said "That's the speed limit," he said "No ma'am, that's the route numbah!"  - Gary Crocker

US71

Quote from: yakra on August 19, 2017, 04:46:54 AM
Quote from: US71 on August 18, 2017, 06:21:18 PM
Also the 71B error still exists east of Alma (should be Jct 64B, but posted as 71B).
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4882243,-94.2040773,3a,18.7y,294.97h,87.55t/data=!3m9!1e1!3m7!1svvZO5sNJUVZARu_t9EokEw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!9m2!1b1!2i41

Quote from: US71 on August 18, 2017, 06:21:18 PM
64B itself appears to still end where 162 turned to downtown.
So, there's still signage to and at Fayetteville Ave, but presumably no more signage for 162?

Is there an at-grade 64B/162 junction?

64B / 162 is at-grade with a signal. All the old 162 signage has been removed. I even drove through town to verify.  64B just shows up with no warning heading east.
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robbones

Quote from: US71 on August 19, 2017, 09:44:22 AM
Quote from: yakra on August 19, 2017, 04:46:54 AM
Quote from: US71 on August 18, 2017, 06:21:18 PM
Also the 71B error still exists east of Alma (should be Jct 64B, but posted as 71B).
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4882243,-94.2040773,3a,18.7y,294.97h,87.55t/data=!3m9!1e1!3m7!1svvZO5sNJUVZARu_t9EokEw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!9m2!1b1!2i41

Quote from: US71 on August 18, 2017, 06:21:18 PM
64B itself appears to still end where 162 turned to downtown.
So, there's still signage to and at Fayetteville Ave, but presumably no more signage for 162?

Is there an at-grade 64B/162 junction?

64B / 162 is at-grade with a signal. All the old 162 signage has been removed. I even drove through town to verify.  64B just shows up with no warning heading east.
They should extend 64B on the former 162 alignment back to 64

LGL64VL


US71

Quote from: robbones on August 20, 2017, 10:59:49 AM
Quote from: US71 on August 19, 2017, 09:44:22 AM
Quote from: yakra on August 19, 2017, 04:46:54 AM
Quote from: US71 on August 18, 2017, 06:21:18 PM
Also the 71B error still exists east of Alma (should be Jct 64B, but posted as 71B).
https://www.google.com/maps/@35.4882243,-94.2040773,3a,18.7y,294.97h,87.55t/data=!3m9!1e1!3m7!1svvZO5sNJUVZARu_t9EokEw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!9m2!1b1!2i41

Quote from: US71 on August 18, 2017, 06:21:18 PM
64B itself appears to still end where 162 turned to downtown.
So, there's still signage to and at Fayetteville Ave, but presumably no more signage for 162?

Is there an at-grade 64B/162 junction?

64B / 162 is at-grade with a signal. All the old 162 signage has been removed. I even drove through town to verify.  64B just shows up with no warning heading east.
They should extend 64B on the former 162 alignment back to 64


Then ARDOT would have to maintain it, instead of the city
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yakra

#318
Quote from: US71 on August 19, 2017, 09:44:22 AM
64B / 162 is at-grade with a signal.
Right about here I presume, based on the satellite imagery.

How does it tie in at 64 proper?
Edit: Answered my own question.
"Officer, I'm always careful to drive the speed limit no matter where I am and that's what I was doin'." Said "No, you weren't," she said, "Yes, I was." He said, "Madam, I just clocked you at 22 MPH," and she said "That's the speed limit," he said "No ma'am, that's the route numbah!"  - Gary Crocker

bugo

Whoa, a US highway that doesn't end at the intersection of another highway that also doesn't end at a natural barrier like a seashore. AHTD (I refuse to call them by any other name) does it again.

yakra

East? This is "East"?
In 2013, with the exception of the first shield (AR174 itself), this was signed south.
Looks like AHTD changed the wrong directional banners. :pan:
"Officer, I'm always careful to drive the speed limit no matter where I am and that's what I was doin'." Said "No, you weren't," she said, "Yes, I was." He said, "Madam, I just clocked you at 22 MPH," and she said "That's the speed limit," he said "No ma'am, that's the route numbah!"  - Gary Crocker

TheArkansasRoadgeek

Quote from: bugo on August 26, 2017, 01:00:09 AM
Whoa, a US highway that doesn't end at the intersection of another highway that also doesn't end at a natural barrier like a seashore. AHTD (I refuse to call them by any other name) does it again.
Do you realize that there might have been a cercumstance out of their control, which lead to the design of the ending terminus. We do have a special transportation department! :bigass:
Well, that's just like your opinion man...

TheArkansasRoadgeek

Has any Arkansan taken ARDOT's Survey, yet?
Well, that's just like your opinion man...

TheArkansasRoadgeek

#323
Not sure if this was covered, but I found a 2016 Metroplan Board Meeting referring to rehibilitation of the state's transportation infastructure and reminding me how poor we actually are, but our neighbors to the north (Misssouri) are way better about making a dollar stretch, hell they had to give a portion of their grant to us due to our poor money management we do! But, I am down playing my point: 1 million dollars is a LOT of money I am not sure how we are struggling this bad to get by... :banghead:

On their level it isn't even just 1 million, it's 400 million we are talking about! That's no small chunk of change! :confused: :pan:

Come on ARDOT! Get your ass in gear! :bigass:
Well, that's just like your opinion man...

bjrush

 :confused:

There isn't a single mention of Missouri in that PowerPoint
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