If anyone is interested, two design-build contracts are about to be let to const SR 9-B from what will be I-295 south to US 1 in Duval Co.
Judging by the FDOT Work Program, SR 9-B in St Johns Co in the environmental status
I can't wait till this is built. :)
BTW, edited the topic name so people know what state this is for. ;)
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 22, 2010, 09:48:16 PM
I can't wait till this is built. :)
BTW, edited the topic name so people know what state this is for. ;)
I knew what he was talking about (the latest post in southeast read "Re: SR 9-B") :-P
Quote from: AARoads on May 22, 2010, 11:04:34 PM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 22, 2010, 09:48:16 PM
I can't wait till this is built. :)
BTW, edited the topic name so people know what state this is for. ;)
I knew what he was talking about (the latest post in southeast read "Re: SR 9-B") :-P
Of course you would. :P I was just thinking of people like Jake. :P :-D
(runs and hides)
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 22, 2010, 11:05:39 PM
Of course you would. :P I was just thinking of people like Jake. :P :-D
(runs and hides)
since when do I care about new construction?
the day new highways come equipped with old infrastructure (signs, bridges, etc) I'll take notice. Until then... point it out to me in 30 years :sombrero:
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 23, 2010, 12:04:08 AM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 22, 2010, 11:05:39 PM
Of course you would. :P I was just thinking of people like Jake. :P :-D
(runs and hides)
since when do I care about new construction?
the day new highways come equipped with old infrastructure (signs, bridges, etc) I'll take notice. Until then... point it out to me in 30 years :sombrero:
But I thought you would be interested in the new route to add to the shield gallery. :P
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 24, 2010, 12:45:35 AM
But I thought you would be interested in the new route to add to the shield gallery. :P
we have way too many Florida shields. Now find us a green US-23 already.
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 24, 2010, 12:48:53 AM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 24, 2010, 12:45:35 AM
But I thought you would be interested in the new route to add to the shield gallery. :P
we have way too many Florida shields. Now find us a green US-23 already.
I wish I could. To be honest, I'd have better luck finding a drug dealer than one of those. :-D
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 24, 2010, 12:50:35 AM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 24, 2010, 12:48:53 AM
Quote from: rickmastfan67 on May 24, 2010, 12:45:35 AM
But I thought you would be interested in the new route to add to the shield gallery. :P
we have way too many Florida shields. Now find us a green US-23 already.
I wish I could. To be honest, I'd have better luck finding a drug dealer than one of those. :-D
what you still might find is a reverse US 98 shield from the days when they first switched
Quote from: sammack on May 24, 2010, 12:38:13 PM
what you still might find is a reverse US 98 shield from the days when they first switched
wait, where is FL-9B? I thought Duval County was Jacksonville area?
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 24, 2010, 08:39:54 PM
Quote from: sammack on May 24, 2010, 12:38:13 PM
what you still might find is a reverse US 98 shield from the days when they first switched
wait, where is FL-9B? I thought Duval County was Jacksonville area?
The planned freeway leading south from the ramp stubs on FL 9A at its southeastern corner through to Interstate 95 in St. Johns County. Some time during the early news of this road, the designation Interstate 795 was mentioned for it. Have not heard I-795 when reading about SR 9-B ever since...
Nor have I, which means that it will probably not be designated as such. Eh, for all we know given the current funding it will not reach Interstate 95 anyway, and if it does it will certainly be tolled, so you know that that means... :)
Quote from: AARoads on May 25, 2010, 12:11:24 AM
The planned freeway leading south from the ramp stubs on FL 9A at its southeastern corner through to Interstate 95 in St. Johns County. Some time during the early news of this road, the designation Interstate 795 was mentioned for it. Have not heard I-795 when reading about SR 9-B ever since...
great, where is St. John's County then? And how are either of them close to US-98?
St. John's County is immediately south of Duval County/City of Jacksonville. US 98 is nowhere near the area. St John's County was recently, the fastest growing county in Florida.
I'm curious what route it will take. One of the only official routings from FDOT (on the 2003 highway data cd) was from Racetrack Road and Bartram Park Blvd at the St. Johns/Duval County Line, north-northeast crossing I-95 between two square ponds, crossing US 1 in Bayard south of Snyder Street and Rosco Ave, then curving slightly NW to the stubs.
Update on FL-9B.
You can see it under-construction in StreetView @ it's future interchange with FL-9A. ;)
http://g.co/maps/eta3x & http://g.co/maps/jbu3a & http://g.co/maps/wmeru
And here's some views from US-1:
http://g.co/maps/h2at4 & http://g.co/maps/h4uz6
What a difference a year makes from those GSV images.
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi696.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv321%2FFLroadgeek%2FP4240401.jpg&hash=43230aa34561f2132733f5c0f09295c34e751697)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi696.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv321%2FFLroadgeek%2FP4240400.jpg&hash=143275d9095522f4f7fc85de026a014df93719c5)
There is one paved lane going over the new overpass.
The wait is almost over for State Road 9B|Action News - Jacksonville News, Weather & Sports - ActionNewsJax.com (http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/The-wait-is-almost-over-for-State-Road-9B/XewEllMXo0mqyPoqOUH8dw.cspx) (includes a video)
In case anyone read the Wikipedia article on 9B, it's not going to be a part of the planned First Coast Outer Beltway - http://www.sr9b.com/sr9b/FAQ.aspx (http://www.sr9b.com/sr9b/FAQ.aspx)
Yay, floating ramp: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&ll=30.114691,-81.51289&spn=0.016928,0.033023&gl=us&t=m&z=16
So I-95 is also "hidden" FL 9? The More You Know...
Quote from: amroad17 on February 18, 2013, 10:41:57 PM
So I-95 is also "hidden" FL 9? The More You Know...
Yup, and it's FL 9A where FL 9 is "separate-but-not-hidden" (Miami-Dade county).
And 9B is now open!
http://www.actionnewsjax.com/content/topstories/story/Traffic-flowing-on-9B/ESUjdZTjXE2DGZVSOeIWuw.cspx
I noticed in that video that the first mileage guide sign showed Savannah as the final control point (couldn't read the miles) but one can see from this that once Florida 9B gets extended to Interstate 95 that signage will suggest to through traffic to use the connector and East Beltway as an alternative route to Georgia instead of continuing north along I-95.
That SR 9B shield put a smile on my face. I had wondered if they were going to sign it as such.
Quote from: florida on September 22, 2013, 11:07:35 PM
That SR 9B shield put a smile on my face. I had wondered if they were going to sign it as such.
Surely the bit south of I-95 would be when built, even if the bit north of I-95 gets signed as I-795.
Quote from: flaroads on September 22, 2013, 09:15:47 AM
I noticed in that video that the first mileage guide sign showed Savannah as the final control point (couldn't read the miles) but one can see from this that once Florida 9B gets extended to Interstate 95 that signage will suggest to through traffic to use the connector and East Beltway as an alternative route to Georgia instead of continuing north along I-95.
It looks like Savannah: 146 miles. I have the feeling it will be renamed I-795 somehow after it extends south to I-95.
I hope that they assign it as a bypass of I-95, it would be nice.
Quote from: roadman65 on September 24, 2013, 03:13:08 PM
I hope that they assign it as a bypass of I-95, it would be nice.
FL-9B technically fixes the stupidity of the loop ramp of SB I-295 (FL-9A) to I-95 SB. Can't wait till that mistake is fixed.
FL 9B will be resigned as I-795 when the ramps at I-95 are complete.
But it will only be I-795 from I-95 to I-295 East Beltway.
From I-95 south to St John's Parkway it will remain FL-9B.
After the ramps at I-95 are complete they will have a ramp at Durbin/Peyton Parkway that connects to Racetrack Road.
Durbin Parkway will eventually extend east and go behind the Dog Track, bridge over the FEC and US1 and connect with Nocatee Parkway. This will facilitate a clean east/west route from Palm Valley to the St Johns River.
FL -9B will eventually terminate at the current intersection of St Johns Parkway and Russell Sampson Road. St John's County has plans to extend that parkway further south as population grows, but it will never be an expressway, just a 4 lane arterial. If the First Coast Beltway ever gets east of the river, anticipate an intersection between it and the future parkway.
As it stands today I-795 is pavement complete, they are finishing the signage, lighting and landscaping. The last pieces before it can open are mostly around the I-95 intersection, as everything at Philips Highway are done. A contractor has started to remove trees for the next section south of Race Track Road.
Developers are already salivating at this intersection with Race Track Road and Durbin Parkway. Bass Pro Shops has already announced they are building on property nearby. This should also propagate a wave of restaurants, hotels and other associated retail.
I would not be surprised if 9B becomes hidden and the CR2209 designation of St Johns parkway is signed at the i95 exit
Also worth mentioning: Signage was installed for an interchange between 295 and US1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.1610673,-81.5096521,3a,50.3y,349.58h,86.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seXQLOr06SEFfXrhmisJHjg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
The advance signage had exit number tabs on it along with a yellow closed tab when I drove past it. I can't find updated streetview of it yet though.
Cross posting from the TravelMapping forum (http://tm.teresco.org/forum/index.php?topic=27.msg258#msg258):
Newly installed APL Signs show US1 will be exit 2.
The ramp south of US1 for Durbin Road is signed as exit 3.
Looks like an error was made.
Quote from: theFXexpert on January 07, 2016, 01:07:48 AM
Also worth mentioning: Signage was installed for an interchange between 295 and US1 (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.1610673,-81.5096521,3a,50.3y,349.58h,86.96t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1seXQLOr06SEFfXrhmisJHjg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656).
The advance signage had exit number tabs on it along with a yellow closed tab when I drove past it. I can't find updated streetview of it yet though.
"E-Town Parkway" was a design add due to the announcement of a major project by Davis Family entities (former Winn Dixie owners) to create a huge mixed development in and around this exit.
9B had been done for a length of time with just a bridge over nothing and then the ramps were added later and then the signage.
At the moment the ramps go to nothing as the development hasn't even broken ground yet. When 9B was built with that bridge over nothing and then the development was announced much later, it raised a lot of eyebrows because no one had known what the plans were.
Cross post from TravelMapping (http://tm.teresco.org/forum/index.php?topic=27.msg267#msg267):
I didn't take any pics when I initially went though since I don't have any good way of taking pictures while driving, so I went back there tonight and pulled to the side. (NOTE: Not embedding due to large images.)
http://i.imgur.com/TNjgYJ3.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/TNjgYJ3.jpg)
The pics of the Durbin Road Blvd sign didn't come out that great since it was farther away.
At least these are somewhat legible.
http://i.imgur.com/mTs3Ofz.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/mTs3Ofz.jpg)
http://i.imgur.com/KEw5dKu.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/KEw5dKu.jpg)
http://i.imgur.com/jwWMCam.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/jwWMCam.jpg)
I checked streetview before posting earlier (https://www.google.com/maps/@30.131996,-81.5127005,3a,75y,247.29h,80.15t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9iErvkt0ByJ_63Q9VwHu5g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656) to refresh my memory and confirm the name of the road the ramp was connecting to. As you can see, Durbin Rd (Not Blvd) is shown. A second set of street blades can be seen at the same intersection with completely different street names which I initially dismissed as an error. After more thorough browsing, I found that was the only sign referencing this road as Durbin Rd. Every other street blade signs the road as Flagler Center Blvd.
You know theFXexpert, there's an e-mail for people who should be contacted about 9B on their website.
http://www.sr9b.com/Pages/Directory.aspx
I would send an e-mail to both of them about those exit numbers. ;) Make sure to include links to your photos of the problem. Hopefully, they can be fixed soon. :nod:
Yes. I'll get right on that when I get time to today.
I just noticed new mile markers while on it yesterday.
Mile 1 is posted just south of the E-Town Prky southbound entrance ramp. Mile 2 is just before the ramp for US 1.
So I guess they are mile posting it from north to south. But if they are doing that, why bother making E-Town exit 4?
Quote from: theFXexpert on February 15, 2016, 10:27:34 AM
I just noticed new mile markers while on it yesterday.
Mile 1 is posted just south of the E-Town Prky southbound entrance ramp. Mile 2 is just before the ramp for US 1.
So I guess they are mile posting it from north to south. But if they are doing that, why bother making E-Town exit 4?
MUTCD states that spur route mileage starts at the parent route and goes up from there, so same with exit numbers. This is the case for I-795 in NC, where the exits go up as you proceed south from I-95 towards Goldsboro. I think an exception should be made for spurs heading south since it does run counter to the standard exit numbering scheme.
Quote from: bob7374 on February 15, 2016, 11:41:46 AM
MUTCD states that spur route mileage starts at the parent route and goes up from there, so same with exit numbers. This is the case for I-795 in NC, where the exits go up as you proceed south from I-95 towards Goldsboro. I think an exception should be made for spurs heading south since it does run counter to the standard exit numbering scheme.
Hmm. I didn't consider that. But, wouldn't I-95 be considered to be the parent route once they open phase II?
Quote from: theFXexpert on February 15, 2016, 10:27:34 AM
I just noticed new mile markers while on it yesterday.
Mile 1 is posted just south of the E-Town Prky southbound entrance ramp. Mile 2 is just before the ramp for US 1.
So I guess they are mile posting it from north to south. But if they are doing that, why bother making E-Town exit 4?
Do the MMs have shields in them?
Couldn't all of FL 9B be Interstate 795? Why does it have to only exist between 95 and 295?
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on February 15, 2016, 04:13:33 PM
Couldn't all of FL 9B be Interstate 795? Why does it have to only exist between 95 and 295?
And if they're connecting two interstates, why not call it I-695?
Quote from: emory on February 18, 2016, 04:10:44 AM
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on February 15, 2016, 04:13:33 PM
Couldn't all of FL 9B be Interstate 795? Why does it have to only exist between 95 and 295?
And if they're connecting two interstates, why not call it I-695?
or 495. In the stricktest sense it is a spur off 95, but it is functionally part of the beltway/bypass system so an even number would make more sense, like 675 on the SE part of Atlanta's perimeter
Fixed quote. (https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=4000.0) - rmf67
Quote from: emory on February 18, 2016, 04:10:44 AM
And if they're connecting two interstates, why not call it I-695?
Quote from: jwolfer on February 18, 2016, 11:33:01 AM
or 495. In the stricktest sense it is a spur off 95, but it is functionally part of the beltway/bypass system so an even number would make more sense, like 675 on the SE part of Atlanta's perimeter
And if they're connecting two interstates, why not call it I-695?
THIS!
Has AASHTO even assigned a number yet? All I could find was that they identified 9B as a "logical future addition". (http://route.transportation.org/Documents/AASHTO-FHWAFLI-295.pdf)
EDIT: Wikipedia says it was assigned in 2011. But doesn't cite a source.
FDOT called it I-795 in internal records all the way back around 2000.
Quote from: theFXexpert on February 18, 2016, 12:02:36 PM
Quote from: emory on February 18, 2016, 04:10:44 AM
And if they're connecting two interstates, why not call it I-695?
Quote from: jwolfer on February 18, 2016, 11:33:01 AM
or 495. In the stricktest sense it is a spur off 95, but it is functionally part of the beltway/bypass system so an even number would make more sense, like 675 on the SE part of Atlanta's perimeter
And if they're connecting two interstates, why not call it I-695?
THIS!
Has AASHTO even assigned a number yet? All I could find was that they identified 9B as a "logical future addition". (http://route.transportation.org/Documents/AASHTO-FHWAFLI-295.pdf)
EDIT: Wikipedia says it was assigned in 2011. But doesn't cite a source.
I cant find anything online officially assigning 795 thru FHWA. Lots of of non-FHWA 795 sources
I went to the intersection where the Durbin Blvd [sic] ramp terminates in person for the first time. Traffic Signals and signs were installed.
I don't know if any of the signs were put up before or after I complained.
http://i.imgur.com/snOOTpL.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/snOOTpL.jpg)
Looking southbound facing the exit ramp.
http://i.imgur.com/0tR7Ck2.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/0tR7Ck2.jpg)
Another view of the traffic light.
http://i.imgur.com/5LNaUqB.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/5LNaUqB.jpg)
Looking east. The ramp is to the right.
http://i.imgur.com/DCD3fyW.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/DCD3fyW.jpg)
Yeah.
Also noteworthy, I sign gantry was put up at the exit/entrance gore for US1 at the north end of the bridge over US 1. A sign facing the southbound direction indicates that the Durbin Blvd ramp is exit only. I'm thinking that the added lane from the US1 entrance ramp will be dropped at the Durbin Blvd exit ramp. Exit numbers and junk have not been modified. I couldn't get a good look at the northbound signs.
Aerial photos of phase 3 construction are now up on the 9B project site.
http://www.sr9b.com/Phase3/Pages/Photos.aspx
I too think it would work better as I-695, or even I-895, as none of those routes are used in FL yet. (I-495 is also unused, but I don't think it would work as well.)
While the 95 to 295 would be a logical place for a 495, a 695 or an 895, it appears the 795 designation is set in stone. Which is precisely why I think the designation should run the entire length of FL 9B.
https://twitter.com/MyFDOT_NEFL/status/734757964414889984
Florida 9B will open south to Interstate 95 in early June.
I drove by the exit on 95 on Saturday.. some BGSs were up.. shield covered but they were not interstate shields.. the were Florida SR shields
Just realized that S-795 (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/30.4073037,-83.0135615/30.3047235,-82.984849/@30.3064502,-82.9877958,17.08z) is longer than the proposed I-795 (http://www.sr9b.com/Pages/Home.aspx). ;-)
Quote from: formulanone on May 23, 2016, 01:40:49 PM
Just realized that S-795 (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/30.4073037,-83.0135615/30.3047235,-82.984849/@30.3064502,-82.9877958,17.08z) is longer than the proposed I-795 (http://www.sr9b.com/Pages/Home.aspx). ;-)
County 795 is also better because it has keys shields.
https://twitter.com/AARoads/status/669353983962701824
I still think all of 9B should be part of Interstate 795, not just the segment between 95 and 295.
When will they sign it as I-795?
Quote from: mvak36 on May 25, 2016, 04:12:49 PM
When will they sign it as I-795?
I sent an email to FDOT asking if SR 9B will indeed carry the I-795 designation once it opens to I-95. I will post their answer as soon as they respond. :)
Quote from: flaroads on May 25, 2016, 07:18:20 PM
Quote from: mvak36 on May 25, 2016, 04:12:49 PM
When will they sign it as I-795?
I sent an email to FDOT asking if SR 9B will indeed carry the I-795 designation once it opens to I-95. I will post their answer as soon as they respond. :)
Thank you for doing that.
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Can someone explain why this route is not a colossal waste of money? Hard earned tax payer money at that. Isn't this area already served by FL 9A (I-295). There is only a few miles of seperation.
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on May 27, 2016, 01:10:28 PM
Can someone explain why this route is not a colossal waste of money? Hard earned tax payer money at that. Isn't this area already served by FL 9A (I-295). There is only a few miles of seperation.
Its mostly to open up more land for development, especially the next phase extending south of I-95 deeper into St. Johns County. The FL 9B connection with I-295 north will provide part of a long distance bypass of I-95 through the city otherwise.
Quick update, I still have not received any response to the email I submitted May 25th (really not surprised). I'll try emailing other personnel Tuesday and keep those interested posted on what I find out.
The opening of SR 9B southbound set for tomorrow was pushed back to next weekend. Anyone want to meet up and check it out?
New State Road 9B project rescheduled (http://www.wokv.com/news/news/local/new-state-road-9b-project-opening/nrYrB/)
QuoteThe Florida Department of Transportation is rescheduling the cosntruction for the new State Rd 9B project which is supposed to take place June 4 and June 5. Due to weather concerns the construction will start the weekend of June 10.
So did 9B open? Going to be passing through there in about three weeks and I plan to use it if it's open.
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 22, 2016, 01:31:21 PM
So did 9B open? Going to be passing through there in about three weeks and I plan to use it if it's open.
It was open when I drove it last week.
It fully opened on June 13. I posted a guide for the freeway (https://www.aaroads.com/guide.php?page=s0009bfl) with pics taken on our Jacksonville road outing last Thursday as well.
How long before we see Interstate 795 shields on the signs?
Quote from: Alex on June 22, 2016, 03:17:22 PM
It fully opened on June 13. I posted a guide for the freeway (https://www.aaroads.com/guide.php?page=s0009bfl) with pics taken on our Jacksonville road outing last Thursday as well.
Thanks. I've used it once from I-295 to Route 1 just for the heck of it, but now it actually serves a useful purpose since I prefer to go around the east side of I-295.
Quote from: Alex on June 22, 2016, 03:17:22 PM
It fully opened on June 13. I posted a guide for the freeway (https://www.aaroads.com/guide.php?page=s0009bfl) with pics taken on our Jacksonville road outing last Thursday as well.
Interestingly, that was the same day I drove through there as well.
Quote from: jdb1234 on June 22, 2016, 06:06:23 PM
Quote from: Alex on June 22, 2016, 03:17:22 PM
It fully opened on June 13. I posted a guide for the freeway (https://www.aaroads.com/guide.php?page=s0009bfl) with pics taken on our Jacksonville road outing last Thursday as well.
Interestingly, that was the same day I drove through there as well.
Before or during the never ending rain? :coffee:
Traffic on I-295 south from FL 202 toward FL 9B was clogged from 3 to 6 pm that day. The four lanes there just don't cut it anymore. As such some early work for the Express lanes, which will directly connect with FL 9B, is underway at FL 152 on the northbound side of I-295. Best I could research is 3 years for completion.
Quote from: Alex on June 22, 2016, 08:04:04 PM
Quote from: jdb1234 on June 22, 2016, 06:06:23 PM
Quote from: Alex on June 22, 2016, 03:17:22 PM
It fully opened on June 13. I posted a guide for the freeway (https://www.aaroads.com/guide.php?page=s0009bfl) with pics taken on our Jacksonville road outing last Thursday as well.
Interestingly, that was the same day I drove through there as well.
Before or during the never ending rain? :coffee:
Traffic on I-295 south from FL 202 toward FL 9B was clogged from 3 to 6 pm that day. The four lanes there just don't cut it anymore. As such some early work for the Express lanes, which will directly connect with FL 9B, is underway at FL 152 on the northbound side of I-295. Best I could research is 3 years for completion.
It didn't rain on me much when I got to Jacksonville as it was dry enough for me to take my own photos. Biggest problem I had was besides the traffic in Orlando was a bad accident in Palm Bay that took me over an hour to get through. I didn't check into the hotel until 8:30.
I did drive the east side of I-295 Friday morning and it felt a little too narrow being only 4 lanes in most places.
Remember roads are built to handle 20 years ago's traffic. The rate of development is not on the same timeline as it takes to build better roads. S0 I-295 is already being planned to handle tomorrow's developers patrons, but with projected traffic counts from two decades ago when all this land was never thought of as prime real estate.
So far I-295 could never be a relief route to I-95 unless express lanes could be added, and even that once some of the land that lines the intestate gets filled in those new cars will fill up that idea.
Look at between Orlando and Kissimmee several miles away. John Young Parkway was built to be a relief route to nearby US 17, 92, & 441. Now both roads are the same trafficwise and both the same type of arterial so neither one is a relief route. Once you have open land around a brand new freeway, it will generate more sprawl that equals more traffic so the once through route will soon become a local commuter route.
That whole eastern end of Jacksonville really boomed with retail, office, and housing so adding the new 295 freeway only escalated that. Unless we push for more conservation areas in major metro areas this kind of situation will always be. Heck in Texas with the addition of the TX 99 and Grand Parkway Freeways we can anticipate more economic growth as well, so do not count on it being an outer bypass to travel between major roads for very long either.
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on June 22, 2016, 04:07:28 PM
How long before we see Interstate 795 shields on the signs?
I FINALLY received a response into my inquiry about the status of SR 9B becoming signed as I-795! Geesh, it only took a little over a month and emails to three individuals....
Anyway, the representative who responded informed me that once SR 9B is complete to CR 2209 in 2018, they will apply for Interstate status then, and use the I-795 designation.
Not sure why FDOT wouldn't go ahead and apply for the status now that it's connecting to two Interstate freeways. It makes me wonder if they want to have the southern section complete, since this will be the section constituting it being a "spur" Interstate. But given some of the other oddities in the Interstate system, this would seem an almost illogical theory...
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 22, 2016, 04:49:20 PM
Quote from: Alex on June 22, 2016, 03:17:22 PM
It fully opened on June 13. I posted a guide for the freeway (https://www.aaroads.com/guide.php?page=s0009bfl) with pics taken on our Jacksonville road outing last Thursday as well.
Thanks. I've used it once from I-295 to Route 1 just for the heck of it, but now it actually serves a useful purpose since I prefer to go around the east side of I-295.
We used 9B yesterday morning. I was pleasantly surprised at the nicely banked curve in the ramp to southbound I-95. Banking like that is less common than I'd like.
Quote from: Alex on May 27, 2016, 02:07:44 PM
Quote from: Avalanchez71 on May 27, 2016, 01:10:28 PM
Can someone explain why this route is not a colossal waste of money? Hard earned tax payer money at that. Isn't this area already served by FL 9A (I-295). There is only a few miles of seperation.
Its mostly to open up more land for development, especially the next phase extending south of I-95 deeper into St. Johns County. The FL 9B connection with I-295 north will provide part of a long distance bypass of I-95 through the city otherwise.
I-795 will connect with CR-2209 (St Johns Parkway) and go all the way down as a arterial to the new First Coast Expressway, parts of which are being built as a tollroad south of I-10 today on the Duval County side. Also there is a plan to extend Nocatee Parkway west of US-1 (Philips Highway) over I-95 (no exit) and connect to I-795 with a new exit for Peyton/Durbin Parkway just south of Racetrack Road. St Johns County has been working to improve arterial access to/from the beaches south of Ponte Vedra, not just for development, but also for hurricane preparedness.
9B/I-795 was supposed to have been completed prior to the Overland Bridge Project in downtown Jacksonville, but initially ran out of funding when aggregates pricing skyrocketed through the roof in 2007. This route would have provided a reliever route for I-95 passthrough traffic. When aggregates came back down, Archer-Western proposed a redesign to cut down the costs and FDOT was able to complete the segment.
The Jacksonville Overland is in full swing now, so the 9B completion was timely except now FDOT are putting in demand toll lanes in I-295 now between 9B and Beach Boulevard. The redesign of the 9B exit ramps to cut costs caused some design challenges on the new demand lanes.
While looking FL 9B over in Google Street View last night, it dawned on me that there was something off about the exit numbers. Going from I-295 southbound...
Exit 4 = E-Town Parkway
Exit 2 = US-1
So far, so good. The numbers more or less match up with the mileage from I-95. But suddenly...
Exit 3 = Durbin Blvd
"...what?"
Aside from the fact that it's Flagler Center Blvd, and there is no Durbin Blvd anywhere near it that I could find, Exit 3?
Now, that DOES seem to match up with the mileage estimate from the planned end of the road at St. Johns Parkway, but having it suddenly switch to create a 4-2-3 sequence is just bizzare.
(Northbound, the only signed exit on GSV was Exit 2 at US-1. "Durbin" only has an interchange SB and E-Town Parkway had no exit number tab.)
Quote from: 1995hoo on July 18, 2016, 02:04:07 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on June 22, 2016, 04:49:20 PM
Quote from: Alex on June 22, 2016, 03:17:22 PM
It fully opened on June 13. I posted a guide for the freeway (https://www.aaroads.com/guide.php?page=s0009bfl) with pics taken on our Jacksonville road outing last Thursday as well.
Thanks. I've used it once from I-295 to Route 1 just for the heck of it, but now it actually serves a useful purpose since I prefer to go around the east side of I-295.
We used 9B yesterday morning. I was pleasantly surprised at the nicely banked curve in the ramp to southbound I-95. Banking like that is less common than I'd like.
I drove this back in October when headed to the Melbourne area. Nice direct connector between I-95 south and I-295 east.
Has it been signed as I-795 yet?
Quote from: Beltway on May 15, 2017, 07:05:15 AM
I drove this back in October when headed to the Melbourne area. Nice direct connector between I-95 south and I-295 east.
Has it been signed as I-795 yet?
They are awaiting completion of the link south to CR 2209 before applying for I-795. Brent inquired about it after driving it last summer.
Quote from: flaroads on June 29, 2016, 09:11:54 PM
...the representative who responded informed me that once SR 9B is complete to CR 2209 in 2018, they will apply for Interstate status then, and use the I-795 designation.
Hopefully, once Interstate 795 is signposted, that portion of FL 9B will be de-signed. Having both signposted would be unnecessary.
Quote from: The Ghostbuster on May 15, 2017, 02:44:07 PM
Hopefully, once Interstate 795 is signposted, that portion of FL 9B will be de-signed. Having both signposted would be unnecessary.
Given the precedents set, including the de-signing of SR 9A when it was finished in 2009, it should be de-signed.
One of the more wasteful practices of highway building......A-W is currently punching a hole in the dirt based approaches for 795 over 295 as part of the new tolled express project.
Why is this wasteful?
Because in the original design for the 295/795 flyover, it was supposed to be a rural style with pylons and beams. In an effort to get the bid/design done and lower the cost, A-W changed the rural style flyover to an urban one with dirt filled approaches.
Move forward a couple of years and you guessed it. Since there was no room in the urban approach design, they had to build a shoofly to a new overpass so they could dig out room for the new express lane. Now what money was saved a couple of years ago is lost twice over because they have to punch a tunnel through by removing the 2 year old concrete roadway, build buttresses, and then rebuild what was just laid down. If they had just stuck to their guns and stay rural, but I digress.
Also for what it worth....
Between the following road projects in NE Florida:
- First Coast Beltway
- Overland Bridge
- JTB/95 rebuild
- 295 Tolled Express
- 95/295 Revamp (Airport)
"Road Building" in 2017 is now the leading economic activity in the region with aggregate spending now in excess of $1 Billion dollars.
Thread Revival!
FL 9B has been opened. Completely finished from St. John's Pkwy to I-295.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AARoads?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor (https://mobile.twitter.com/AARoads?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)
Quote from: Interstate 69 Fan on August 09, 2018, 02:38:14 PM
Thread Revival!
FL 9B has been opened. Completely finished from St. John's Pkwy to I-295.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AARoads?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor (https://mobile.twitter.com/AARoads?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)
I wonder if the exit numbers were extended with the opening. :hmmm:
Quote from: Interstate 69 Fan on August 09, 2018, 02:38:14 PM
Thread Revival!
FL 9B has been opened. Completely finished from St. John's Pkwy to I-295.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AARoads?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor (https://mobile.twitter.com/AARoads?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor)
North bound opened in the AM. Southbound was opened just before rush hour the same day.