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Plan to split California into Six States

Started by Brandon, July 16, 2014, 02:09:56 PM

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Jardine

How does increasing the amount spent just on governmental overhead massively help anything ?

Why not totally discorporate statehood down to the city block level and tax the snot out of everybody to build state capitols, borders, and infrastructure everywhere.

Imagine the FREEDOM !!!

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ARMOURERERIC

I have suggested Palomar for the SoCal stat with a Capital in Jacumba Hot Springs, only because that is also a good place for the next border crossing that is not San Diego

myosh_tino

For what it's worth, here's a map showing the boundaries for each of the 6 proposed states...



I'll agree with others that 6 is way too many but I'd be on board with dividing into 3 states (to give the US a total of 52)...

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freebrickproductions

Or we could go with my idea and draw the state lines that the edges of the area codes. :spin: :-P
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Scott5114

Quote from: roadman on July 16, 2014, 08:17:35 PM
If you still need proof that initiative petition is NOT the way to legislate complex issues into law, then look no further than this proposal.

This initiative would only direct the California legislature to consider the proposal if successful. It would not actually cause the partition to happen in and of itself. Presumably the Legislature would handle all of the fine details before abolishing itself. Unless it just threw out the proposal, initiative be damned.
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hotdogPi

What about "Alta California" (to go with Mexico's Baja California)? Would that be a good name?
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jeffandnicole

While it's probably not close to the same thing, especially in today's political environment, what is now the US was made up of only a half-dozen or so territories just a few centuries ago.  California was just a small portion of the Mexican Cession.  So in a way California was already split away from it's original, much larger bounderies.  If California were to split further, it's nothing more than a continuation of what's been going on since the 1700's.

bing101

#32
Wait North California could keep the spade shield, CHP, Caltrans, UC Davis, and CSU Sacramento. But everybody else in the 5 states must renumber state highways, change university name, caltrans and CHP how will it look like in other states.

But I agree that this is just a political protest against North California role in the water issue.

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Visited States and Provinces:
USA (48)= All of Lower 48
Canada (5)= NB, NS, ON, PEI, QC
Mexico (9)= BCN, BCS, CHIH, COAH, DGO, NL, SON, SIN, TAM

froggie

Like others, I could see a 3-state split.  But not 6.  My own 3-state idea is here.

Regarding the water issue, the "coastal" states could address it by building desalinization plants along the coast.  But that would be expensive.

billtm

Why hasn't San Bernardino county been split yet? :confused:

hm insulators

I've heard of numerous proposals to split California into two, perhaps three states, but six? That's the first I've heard of that one.
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At what age do you tell a highway that it's been adopted?

hotdogPi

Quote from: hm insulators on July 22, 2014, 03:29:21 PM
I've heard of numerous proposals to split California into two, perhaps three states, but six? That's the first I've heard of that one.

You missed FritzOwl's Six States thread, which came long before this thread.
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US 13, 44, 50
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agentsteel53

yeah, I was gonna say ... how is this news?  I've been reading about this on the forum for years.
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vdeane

Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 22, 2014, 03:43:16 PM
yeah, I was gonna say ... how is this news?  I've been reading about this on the forum for years.
Does that mean that I-366 is coming soon too?
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

Brandon

Quote from: vdeane on July 22, 2014, 09:25:02 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 22, 2014, 03:43:16 PM
yeah, I was gonna say ... how is this news?  I've been reading about this on the forum for years.
Does that mean that I-366 is coming soon too?

With an 85 mph speed limit going to Alanland.  X-(
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Grzrd

Quote from: Brandon on July 23, 2014, 09:47:29 AM
Quote from: vdeane on July 22, 2014, 09:25:02 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 22, 2014, 03:43:16 PM
yeah, I was gonna say ... how is this news?  I've been reading about this on the forum for years.
Does that mean that I-366 is coming soon too?
With an 85 mph speed limit going to Alanland.  X-(

Interesting questions.  Maybe someone needs to start a "Plan to split North America into Fifteen Countries" thread.

english si

It's more than 15 countries now!

Or do you mean USA, Canada and maybe Mexico?

Grzrd

Quote from: english si on July 23, 2014, 02:14:47 PM
It's more than 15 countries now!

Great catch! Careful study reveals 16 countries: U.S., Mexico, Canada, Alaska, Yukon, Northwest Terrtiories (spelling undisturbed to maintain authenticity of source), Nunavut, Quebec, Greenland, Iceland, [censored], Hawaii, Bermuda, Belize, and Saint Pierre and Miquelon.  Yep, Saint Pierre and Miquelon as separate countries; would France allow it to happen?

jeffandnicole

Quote from: Grzrd on July 23, 2014, 02:30:49 PM
Quote from: english si on July 23, 2014, 02:14:47 PM
It's more than 15 countries now!

Great catch! Careful study reveals 16 countries: U.S., Mexico, Canada, Alaska, Yukon, Northwest Terrtiories (spelling undisturbed to maintain authenticity of source), Nunavut, Quebec, Greenland, Iceland, [censored], Hawaii, Bermuda, Belize, and Saint Pierre and Miquelon.  Yep, Saint Pierre and Miquelon as separate countries; would France allow it to happen?

Yes, but Miquelon will be provide the rights to French Fries, and Saint Pierre will be given French Bread Pizza.

French Toast?  Forget it.  Absolutely banned. 

Big John

Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 23, 2014, 02:48:13 PM
Quote from: Grzrd on July 23, 2014, 02:30:49 PM
Quote from: english si on July 23, 2014, 02:14:47 PM
It's more than 15 countries now!

Great catch! Careful study reveals 16 countries: U.S., Mexico, Canada, Alaska, Yukon, Northwest Terrtiories (spelling undisturbed to maintain authenticity of source), Nunavut, Quebec, Greenland, Iceland, [censored], Hawaii, Bermuda, Belize, and Saint Pierre and Miquelon.  Yep, Saint Pierre and Miquelon as separate countries; would France allow it to happen?

Yes, but Miquelon will be provide the rights to French Fries, and Saint Pierre will be given French Bread Pizza.

French Toast?  Forget it.  Absolutely banned. 
French Fries are actually Belgian and French Toast is actually Roman in origin.

hotdogPi

Quote from: Big John on July 23, 2014, 04:47:48 PM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 23, 2014, 02:48:13 PM
Quote from: Grzrd on July 23, 2014, 02:30:49 PM
Quote from: english si on July 23, 2014, 02:14:47 PM
It's more than 15 countries now!

Great catch! Careful study reveals 16 countries: U.S., Mexico, Canada, Alaska, Yukon, Northwest Terrtiories (spelling undisturbed to maintain authenticity of source), Nunavut, Quebec, Greenland, Iceland, [censored], Hawaii, Bermuda, Belize, and Saint Pierre and Miquelon.  Yep, Saint Pierre and Miquelon as separate countries; would France allow it to happen?

Yes, but Miquelon will be provide the rights to French Fries, and Saint Pierre will be given French Bread Pizza.

French Toast?  Forget it.  Absolutely banned. 
French Fries are actually Belgian and French Toast is actually Roman in origin.

And French dip?
Clinched, plus MA 286

Traveled, plus
US 13, 44, 50
MA 22, 35, 40, 107, 109, 117, 119, 126, 141, 159
NH 27, 111A(E); CA 133; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

Lowest untraveled: 25

Big John

^^ French Dip sandwich originated in Los Angeles (by whom is under dispute).  French onion dip is also American and not found in France.

vdeane

Quote from: Brandon on July 23, 2014, 09:47:29 AM
Quote from: vdeane on July 22, 2014, 09:25:02 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on July 22, 2014, 03:43:16 PM
yeah, I was gonna say ... how is this news?  I've been reading about this on the forum for years.
Does that mean that I-366 is coming soon too?

With an 85 mph speed limit going to Alanland.  X-(
VA 28 goes there?
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

bing101




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