New York

[froggie]

The Deegan predates the Interstate system and so the gas station was likely grandfathered in.

As for why they aren't combined, my guess would be Section 4(f) impacts on the park.  Because of the upgrade on the off-ramp and the narrow right-of-way, you wouldn't be able to get a proper (i.e. within standards) combination without impacting the park.  FHWA (and most other state and Federal agencies) doesn't look too kindly on taking away parkland for road projects.

[Alps]

Hey, new idea (or maybe not so new);

Why won't the New York City DOT and Parks Department combine Exit 13 on the Major Deegan Expressway with the entrance to the northbound gas station?

Probably because they never thought of it, and they don't have a compelling reason to spend money to do it now.

[RobbieL2415]

I'm surprised there even is a gas station on a free Interstate highway.

I'm surprised people buy gas there to begin with.  Its always a dollar/dollar-fifty more than the city average.  Same thing goes with the one on the Hutch

[empirestate]

I'm surprised there even is a gas station on a free Interstate highway.

I'm surprised people buy gas there to begin with.  Its always a dollar/dollar-fifty more than the city average.  Same thing goes with the one on the Hutch

Actually, when I lived there (2011-15) it tended to be competitive with, at least, the surrounding neighborhood.

[froggie]

A quick check of GasBuddy this morning shows it to be $0.14/gal more expensive than a BP station a few blocks down 233rd St, at least for Regular (87 octane).  Premium is FAR more expensive.

[empirestate]

A quick check of GasBuddy this morning shows it to be $0.14/gal more expensive than a BP station a few blocks down 233rd St, at least for Regular (87 octane).  Premium is FAR more expensive.

Well, you'd have to check GasBuddy between 2011-2015. I haven't looked into it recently since I'd don't live down there anymore.

[cl94]

A quick check of GasBuddy this morning shows it to be $0.14/gal more expensive than a BP station a few blocks down 233rd St, at least for Regular (87 octane).  Premium is FAR more expensive.

Well, you'd have to check GasBuddy between 2011-2015. I haven't looked into it recently since I'd don't live down there anymore.

Upcharge is reasonable for an on-expressway station. Look at how much more gas stations on the Thruway charge.

[D-Dey65]

I'm surprised there even is a gas station on a free Interstate highway.

I'm surprised people buy gas there to begin with.  Its always a dollar/dollar-fifty more than the city average.  Same thing goes with the one on the Hutch

Well, they buy other items there too, since many of them also have Dunkin' Donuts franchises.

[machias]

A quick check of GasBuddy this morning shows it to be $0.14/gal more expensive than a BP station a few blocks down 233rd St, at least for Regular (87 octane).  Premium is FAR more expensive.

Well, you'd have to check GasBuddy between 2011-2015. I haven't looked into it recently since I'd don't live down there anymore.

Upcharge is reasonable for an on-expressway station. Look at how much more gas stations on the Thruway charge.

Is the Thruway still bound to the rule that they can only raise their gas prices once a week? Back in the "Lower Fuel Prices In Effect" days I knew this to be the case but I thought that was outside of then Gov. Pataki trying to keep fuel prices down on the Thruway.

There are times when fuel is cheaper at the Schuyler and Oneida Service Plazas than the nearby stations at Exits 31 and 32.

[cl94]

A quick check of GasBuddy this morning shows it to be $0.14/gal more expensive than a BP station a few blocks down 233rd St, at least for Regular (87 octane).  Premium is FAR more expensive.

Well, you'd have to check GasBuddy between 2011-2015. I haven't looked into it recently since I'd don't live down there anymore.

Upcharge is reasonable for an on-expressway station. Look at how much more gas stations on the Thruway charge.

Is the Thruway still bound to the rule that they can only raise their gas prices once a week? Back in the "Lower Fuel Prices In Effect" days I knew this to be the case but I thought that was outside of then Gov. Pataki trying to keep fuel prices down on the Thruway.

There are times when fuel is cheaper at the Schuyler and Oneida Service Plazas than the nearby stations at Exits 31 and 32.

I think they are still bound. Those plazas are generally the exception. The ones near Albany are always a good 10-15+ cents more than those on the surface. Mohawk and Patersonville are typically 2 of the 5 most expensive stations near Albany that aren't in the mountains (only more expensive stations right now are at B3 and one random station in Amsterdam and only by a couple cents). Angola is 50 cents more than gas at 57-58 (but those stations are tax-free). Prices in Massachusetts are 20 cents more in much of the state.

[Rothman]

In my experience, MA gas prices are cheaper than NY's, not more expensive.

I used to commute every week between Amherst, MA and Albany, NY.  The gas savings in MA could be up to .25 a gallon.

That said, if you are talking about the first station on the Pike, that one is typically more expensive than off-Pike locations.

[froggie]

Same experience as Rothman.  As a general rule, Massachusetts has the cheapest gas in New England.

[hotdogPi]

Same experience as Rothman.  As a general rule, Massachusetts has the cheapest gas in New England.

I thought New Hampshire was cheaper by a few cents.

[froggie]

Not in my experience.  Your corner of New Hampshire might be cheaper so as to compete, but especially after the legislature raised the gas tax a couple years ago (in no small part to pay for widening I-93), New Hamsphire as a whole has been more expensive.

[storm2k]

A quick check of GasBuddy this morning shows it to be $0.14/gal more expensive than a BP station a few blocks down 233rd St, at least for Regular (87 octane).  Premium is FAR more expensive.

Well, you'd have to check GasBuddy between 2011-2015. I haven't looked into it recently since I'd don't live down there anymore.

Upcharge is reasonable for an on-expressway station. Look at how much more gas stations on the Thruway charge.

Agreed with this. Same thing in NJ on the Turnpike and Parkway. As an example, currently the price for regular unleaded is 2.289 on the Turnpike. Price for regular unleaded at the Wawa right near Interchange 11 in Woodbridge is 2.149.

In fact, according to gasbuddy, the average price in NJ is 2.279 right now. So while it might be a bit cheaper at a station not far off an exit, it's not totally out of line.

[SectorZ]

Same experience as Rothman.  As a general rule, Massachusetts has the cheapest gas in New England.

I thought New Hampshire was cheaper by a few cents.

Greater Brockton and northern Worcester county are the two lowest priced areas for gas in New England. Some parts of NH compete with that as well.

However, gasbuddy.com has the info, avg. price for NH is $2.181/gallon, MA $2.240/gallon. You can find the cheapest gas in Mass, but places like the Cape, Islands, and Boston are so damn expensive that they skew that average upward hard. Only spots of NH that have ridiculous gas prices are in Coos County, and even so it's small mom and pop places that are very few and far between.

[RobbieL2415]

Same experience as Rothman.  As a general rule, Massachusetts has the cheapest gas in New England.

I thought New Hampshire was cheaper by a few cents.

Greater Brockton and northern Worcester county are the two lowest priced areas for gas in New England. Some parts of NH compete with that as well.

However, gasbuddy.com has the info, avg. price for NH is $2.181/gallon, MA $2.240/gallon. You can find the cheapest gas in Mass, but places like the Cape, Islands, and Boston are so damn expensive that they skew that average upward hard. Only spots of NH that have ridiculous gas prices are in Coos County, and even so it's small mom and pop places that are very few and far between.

I've found the cheapest gas in MA to be along the I-195/US 6 corridor.

[Alps]

Same experience as Rothman.  As a general rule, Massachusetts has the cheapest gas in New England.

I thought New Hampshire was cheaper by a few cents.

Greater Brockton and northern Worcester county are the two lowest priced areas for gas in New England. Some parts of NH compete with that as well.

However, gasbuddy.com has the info, avg. price for NH is $2.181/gallon, MA $2.240/gallon. You can find the cheapest gas in Mass, but places like the Cape, Islands, and Boston are so damn expensive that they skew that average upward hard. Only spots of NH that have ridiculous gas prices are in Coos County, and even so it's small mom and pop places that are very few and far between.

I've found the cheapest gas in MA to be along the I-195/US 6 corridor.

Springfield area. But we're getting off topic.

[SignBridge]

On a different subject, has anyone else here on Long Island, noticed that large sections of lights are not working on the Southern State Pkwy. in Nassau County? Especially along the stretch from the Queens County line to the Meadowbrook Pkwy? I noticed it this evening and a friend tells me it's been that way for like months or years. Supposedly been reported to NYSDOT's Inform hot-line but no repairs have been made. Before any of us start writing letters to NYSDOT, does anyone have any info on what's going on? Like DOT maybe letting a contract for major cable replacement or something?

[empirestate]

A quick check of GasBuddy this morning shows it to be $0.14/gal more expensive than a BP station a few blocks down 233rd St, at least for Regular (87 octane).  Premium is FAR more expensive.

Well, you'd have to check GasBuddy between 2011-2015. I haven't looked into it recently since I'd don't live down there anymore.

Upcharge is reasonable for an on-expressway station. Look at how much more gas stations on the Thruway charge.

Yeah, that's why I was always surprised this one wasn't more expensive. Sounds like they've since caught on to the idea (although a 14-cent swing in prices really isn't all that extraordinary in the area; prices tend to vary pretty widely in the city).

[D-Dey65]

Another NY 22 question; How many rest areas exist on that road besides the two north of the Appalachian Trail Metro-North station? And should there be signage for that station?

[cl94]

Another NY 22 question; How many rest areas exist on that road besides the two north of the Appalachian Trail Metro-North station? And should there be signage for that station?

Rest areas? You mean like parking areas? Not many. There's one in southern Columbia County and a few in the Adirondacks, mostly between Whitehall and Ticonderoga. That being said, the stretch of NY 22 from Amenia to Plattsburgh is one of the most desolate extended stretches of highway in the state. ~235 miles with little more than a gas station or two in some small towns (typically a Stewarts) and 2 McDonald's. For those of you who still need to clinch it, I recommend against trying to do it all at once for that reason.

[Roadgeek Adam]

I wouldn't use Amenia as the starting point. Austerlitz or New Lebanon are probably better starting points for desolation.

[empirestate]

I wouldn't use Amenia as the starting point. Austerlitz or New Lebanon are probably better starting points for desolation.

I wouldn't use any part of 22 as a starting point for desolation; it's remote, sure, but I find it a very attractive, appealing drive.

[Rothman]

Have to agree.  NY 22 is quite scenic.