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The Old 56 in Ottawa Kansas

Started by texaskdog, June 14, 2015, 09:56:47 PM

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texaskdog



route56

No, US 56 did NOT go through Ottawa. It has always followed the former US 50N through Overbrook and Council Grove.

Near as I can tell via Google search, there is another restaurant in Olathe, which is along Old 56.
Peace to you, and... don't drive like my brother.

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texaskdog

Quote from: route56 on June 15, 2015, 09:01:31 PM
No, US 56 did NOT go through Ottawa. It has always followed the former US 50N through Overbrook and Council Grove.

Near as I can tell via Google search, there is another restaurant in Olathe, which is along Old 56.

I guess "Route 56" would know better than anyone!  It appears 56 could have been put through but never was.  Well, maybe I didn't miss anything then.

US71

Quote from: texaskdog on June 14, 2015, 09:56:47 PM
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=old+56+ottawa+ks&view=detailv2&&&id=C5EDD6B76ABDE6F4331737A559E9AE0AE5AC2910&selectedIndex=3&ccid=GnXmgYNT&simid=608035449794528900&thid=JN.V9DGsaRHjgLokO7weQFBBA&ajaxhist=0

I take it US 56 used to run through Ottawa Kansas.  Didn't get to eat here last night though :(

I saw that 3-4 years ago when I was in Ottawa for the weekend. Judging from the sign it's an old Country Kitchen.  I ate at one a few years ago and was NOT impressed.
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texaskdog

Quote from: US71 on June 16, 2015, 10:58:41 AM
Quote from: texaskdog on June 14, 2015, 09:56:47 PM
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=old+56+ottawa+ks&view=detailv2&&&id=C5EDD6B76ABDE6F4331737A559E9AE0AE5AC2910&selectedIndex=3&ccid=GnXmgYNT&simid=608035449794528900&thid=JN.V9DGsaRHjgLokO7weQFBBA&ajaxhist=0

I take it US 56 used to run through Ottawa Kansas.  Didn't get to eat here last night though :(

I saw that 3-4 years ago when I was in Ottawa for the weekend. Judging from the sign it's an old Country Kitchen.  I ate at one a few years ago and was NOT impressed.

Glad we skipped it then.

texaskdog


US71

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cappicard

Quote from: texaskdog on June 16, 2015, 08:25:05 AM
Quote from: route56 on June 15, 2015, 09:01:31 PM
No, US 56 did NOT go through Ottawa. It has always followed the former US 50N through Overbrook and Council Grove.

Near as I can tell via Google search, there is another restaurant in Olathe, which is along Old 56.

I guess "Route 56" would know better than anyone!  It appears 56 could have been put through but never was.  Well, maybe I didn't miss anything then.
Gardner has Old 56 just off the Century Airport road and 56 itself. Then, a couple miles up in Olathe, we have Old 56 there.

When did 56 get rerouted in Olathe and Gardner or were there truck routes, etc? Just think that's odd to have Old 56 so close together and in parallel to each other.

usends

Quote from: texaskdog on June 14, 2015, 09:56:47 PM
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=old+56+ottawa+ks&view=detailv2&&&id=C5EDD6B76ABDE6F4331737A559E9AE0AE5AC2910&selectedIndex=3&ccid=GnXmgYNT&simid=608035449794528900&thid=JN.V9DGsaRHjgLokO7weQFBBA&ajaxhist=0

I take it US 56 used to run through Ottawa Kansas.  Didn't get to eat here last night though :(

That restaurant is actually located on old US 59... be interesting to hear why it's named 56.  Might not have anything to do with a highway number; might be a year...
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route56

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Quote from: cappicard on October 08, 2015, 11:22:22 AM
When did 56 get rerouted in Olathe and Gardner or were there truck routes, etc? Just think that's odd to have Old 56 so close together and in parallel to each other.

US 56 was re-routed onto I-35 between Gardner and Olathe around 1985.

Quote from: usends on October 08, 2015, 04:04:27 PM
That restaurant is actually located on old US 59... be interesting to hear why it's named 56.  Might not have anything to do with a highway number; might be a year...

Actually, the reason it is called Old 56 is because it is this restaurant's second location. The first location is in Olathe on Old 56 and Chestnut.
Peace to you, and... don't drive like my brother.

R.P.K.

cappicard

I take it that 56 was a bit further west of 35 prior to 85?


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texaskdog

Quote from: route56 on October 09, 2015, 08:56:06 AM
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Quote from: cappicard on October 08, 2015, 11:22:22 AM
When did 56 get rerouted in Olathe and Gardner or were there truck routes, etc? Just think that's odd to have Old 56 so close together and in parallel to each other.

US 56 was re-routed onto I-35 between Gardner and Olathe around 1985.

Quote from: usends on October 08, 2015, 04:04:27 PM
That restaurant is actually located on old US 59... be interesting to hear why it's named 56.  Might not have anything to do with a highway number; might be a year...

Actually, the reason it is called Old 56 is because it is this restaurant's second location. The first location is in Olathe on Old 56 and Chestnut.

Then it should have been the New 56

route56

Quote from: cappicard on October 09, 2015, 09:13:44 AM
I take it that 56 was a bit further west of 35 prior to 85?

Old 56 takes a path generally north and west of I-35. The Old route starts just east of Moonlight Road in Gardner, turns northeast towards Clare Road near 167th, heads straight north to 151st, then turns east, then northeast toward Olathe.

Of possible note: the intersection with Parker Street/Lone Elm Road/K-7 on the west side of Olathe was for a long time a diamond interchange for Old 56. It was re-configured to a signalized intersection in the late 90s.
Peace to you, and... don't drive like my brother.

R.P.K.

cappicard

Quote from: route56 on October 09, 2015, 09:35:46 PM
Quote from: cappicard on October 09, 2015, 09:13:44 AM
I take it that 56 was a bit further west of 35 prior to 85?

Old 56 takes a path generally north and west of I-35. The Old route starts just east of Moonlight Road in Gardner, turns northeast towards Clare Road near 167th, heads straight north to 151st, then turns east, then northeast toward Olathe.

Of possible note: the intersection with Parker Street/Lone Elm Road/K-7 on the west side of Olathe was for a long time a diamond interchange for Old 56. It was re-configured to a signalized intersection in the late 90s.
Ah ok. Yeah, I can easily see the old route on Google Maps. And you can still see the land of the former interchange at K-7 and Lone Elm Road.


roadman65

US 50 did run along US 59 and was also concurrent with US 56 from US 59 into KC before I-35 if I am not mistaken?

I also see that US 59 now bypasses Ottawa as well as it is concurrent with I-35 for three exits.  I do not know how long that has been but if I remember correctly back in 01 it did not bypass the city.
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route56

Quote from: roadman65 on November 05, 2015, 07:37:52 PM
US 50 did run along US 59 and was also concurrent with US 56 from US 59 into KC before I-35 if I am not mistaken?

You are correct. US 56 from US 59 east to Olathe was originally US 50.

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I also see that US 59 now bypasses Ottawa as well as it is concurrent with I-35 for three exits.  I do not know how long that has been but if I remember correctly back in 01 it did not bypass the city.

The new US 59 freeway around Ottawa was opened in 2009. The Douglas County segment opened in 2012.
Peace to you, and... don't drive like my brother.

R.P.K.



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