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Contradictory signs

Started by Zeffy, December 17, 2015, 09:48:40 PM

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Zeffy

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Jardine

Just found this by snooping around the internet a little.  There are quite a few out there, but this struck me as funniest.




(note: just realized this is a contradictory sign, not contradictory signs, so I guess I screwed up)

riiga



Is the speed limit 50 or 30? Or maybe 40?

jeffandnicole

Quote from: Zeffy on December 17, 2015, 09:48:40 PM
Title says it all. Here's a good example in Hopewell, NJ:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3893984,-74.7613609,3a,19.4y,78.75h,72.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0GXtRmMwAXRT9R7iD3es0Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
except further down that road (sorry for the blurriness, but that says 'STATE LAW YIELD TO PEDESTRIANS'):
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3873018,-74.7654615,3a,21.7y,303.4h,80.81t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s98Y6ETJwL-ZxqytM2bzFzA!2e0!5s20110701T000000!7i13312!8i6656

So which is it? Stop or yield?

Sign simply wasn't updated for the new law. 

Technically, the sign isn't needed anyway, since it's state law to stop for peds in any crosswalk.

mrsman

Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 18, 2015, 08:42:26 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on December 17, 2015, 09:48:40 PM
Title says it all. Here's a good example in Hopewell, NJ:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3893984,-74.7613609,3a,19.4y,78.75h,72.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0GXtRmMwAXRT9R7iD3es0Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
except further down that road (sorry for the blurriness, but that says 'STATE LAW YIELD TO PEDESTRIANS'):
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3873018,-74.7654615,3a,21.7y,303.4h,80.81t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s98Y6ETJwL-ZxqytM2bzFzA!2e0!5s20110701T000000!7i13312!8i6656

So which is it? Stop or yield?

Sign simply wasn't updated for the new law. 

Technically, the sign isn't needed anyway, since it's state law to stop for peds in any crosswalk.

Not technically needed, but still very helpful reminder that people may be crossing at this point.

vdeane

They also make crosswalks more visible.
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ModernDayWarrior

An old favorite of mine. This was taken at the rest area on US 78/I-22 entering Mississippi from Alabama. (Yeah, I know what they probably meant by this, but I still find it funny anyway)


peterj920


PHLBOS

While yellow speed advisory placards are not official speed limit signs (do you hear that Massachusetts municipalities?); this GSV of Providence Rd. in Edgmont Twp., Delaware County, PA shows a SPEED LIMIT 40 sign just after an all-way Stop with a 35 MPH curve advisory posted shortly thereafter (click to follow).

I would've posted the SPEED LIMIT 40 sign after the cruve.
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bzakharin

Quote from: mrsman on December 30, 2015, 06:59:01 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on December 18, 2015, 08:42:26 AM
Quote from: Zeffy on December 17, 2015, 09:48:40 PM
Title says it all. Here's a good example in Hopewell, NJ:
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3893984,-74.7613609,3a,19.4y,78.75h,72.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s0GXtRmMwAXRT9R7iD3es0Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
except further down that road (sorry for the blurriness, but that says 'STATE LAW YIELD TO PEDESTRIANS'):
https://www.google.com/maps/@40.3873018,-74.7654615,3a,21.7y,303.4h,80.81t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s98Y6ETJwL-ZxqytM2bzFzA!2e0!5s20110701T000000!7i13312!8i6656

So which is it? Stop or yield?

Sign simply wasn't updated for the new law. 

Technically, the sign isn't needed anyway, since it's state law to stop for peds in any crosswalk.

Not technically needed, but still very helpful reminder that people may be crossing at this point.
Probably makes it more enforceable too. Also, there's no contradiction. You can yield and stop at the same time.

CNGL-Leudimin

Quote from: riiga on December 18, 2015, 04:58:24 AM


Is the speed limit 31 or 19? Or maybe 25?

Fixed :sombrero:.

Here in Spain we have a rule that says if two contradictory signs are in place, the most restrictive prevails. Aplying that rule, speed limit would be 30 km/h (19 mph).
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TravelingBethelite

A similar case near Seymour, MO:

Which speed limit? by CTRoads, on Flickr
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SignGeek101

Quote from: TravelingBethelite on January 15, 2016, 07:23:35 PM
A similar case near Seymour, MO:

Which speed limit? by CTRoads, on Flickr

That's not really contradictory though. The right sign is telling you that if nothing else is posted, the limit is 25. However, the sign on the left overwrites that and has a limit of 35.

No different than here: https://goo.gl/maps/1rBBFSQBVTU2

It says the limit is 50 by default (if there's nothing posted), but there's a sign ahead that says the limit on this road is 70 (just past the bridge).

Brian556



South Pittsburg, TN.

There are a lot of TDOT sign errors in this area. They are not very smart lol.

SignGeek101

Quote from: Brian556 on January 15, 2016, 08:01:19 PM


South Pittsburg, TN.

There are a lot of TDOT sign errors in this area. They are not very smart lol.

Are the traffic lights new there? Sometimes when new lights are installed, someone forgets to remove the old stop sign.

roadman65

Here is an interesting piece in Union, NJ.
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TravelingBethelite

Quote from: roadman65 on January 15, 2016, 08:51:09 PM
Here is an interesting piece in Union, NJ.


How is this contradictory, by chance?
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Now I decide where I go...

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hotdogPi

Quote from: TravelingBethelite on January 15, 2016, 09:19:49 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on January 15, 2016, 08:51:09 PM
Here is an interesting piece in Union, NJ.


How is this contradictory, by chance?

Turn left to get on NJ 82 west. You can't turn left.
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noelbotevera

Quote from: hbelkins on January 16, 2016, 10:54:45 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on January 15, 2016, 09:02:46 PM
Thanks. That was totally needed.

Don't see a problem there.
There's two No Left Turn signs. One's at the very left of the shot, and there's one under the stop sign.

cl94

Quote from: noelbotevera on January 16, 2016, 11:01:48 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on January 16, 2016, 10:54:45 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on January 15, 2016, 09:02:46 PM
Thanks. That was totally needed.

Don't see a problem there.
There's two No Left Turn signs. One's at the very left of the shot, and there's one under the stop sign.

Except they don't contradict each other
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Mapmikey

Quote from: TravelingBethelite on January 15, 2016, 07:23:35 PM
A similar case near Seymour, MO:

Which speed limit? by CTRoads, on Flickr

This setup is extremely common in North Carolina and main thoroughfares often are posted at a higher speed limit than the city-defined default...

Mike

ModernDayWarrior

Quote from: Mapmikey on January 17, 2016, 12:13:39 AM
Quote from: TravelingBethelite on January 15, 2016, 07:23:35 PM
A similar case near Seymour, MO:

Which speed limit? by CTRoads, on Flickr

This setup is extremely common in North Carolina and main thoroughfares often are posted at a higher speed limit than the city-defined default...

Mike

Very common in Missouri also. The town I live in has this setup too. Instead of having to post speed limit signs on every little street, they just post a blanket limit like this when you enter (30 in my town, 25 in most other places I've seen them) and higher limits for the highways through town.



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