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Started by ColossalBlocks, April 19, 2017, 11:16:29 AM

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What are some interchanges in your state/city that always seem to be completely clusterfucked?

Also, I mean interchanges with so many ramps leading in too many different directions. Or say an outdated interchange in an area seeing traffic increases every day.
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The 69 465 interchange in Indianapolis. Should have been upgraded literally 25 years ago. Causes the daily backup from 4-7pm. It's being partially fixed next year finally.

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epzik8

I-95/695, Exit 33/64 in Rosedale, Maryland (just northeast of Baltimore) might be one, to some extent. I think both highways lose a lane within that interchange. It's sort of difficult for traffic to merge from the ramps onto each highway.
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Quote from: ColossalBlocks on April 19, 2017, 11:16:29 AM
What are some interchanges in your state/city that always seem to be completely clusterfucked?

The I-880 and US-101 junction (especially I-880 southbound) displays the phenomenon that "everyone is always in the wrong lane".  This means that, until such a time, if ever, that the interchange is completely reconfigured, no number of extra lanes will fix the problem.

The counter-intuitve, but often necessary, US-101 northbound to I-880 southbound merge is less than 100 m from the normal I-880 southbound to US-101 southbound exit. The HOV lane (which often moves close to the speed limit)  is on the far left and ends roughly at the centerline of US-101. So, southbound HOVs that want to exit to US-101 southbound have to cut across 3, no 4, no 5, lanes in order to do so. The US-101NB-to-I-880SB mergers have to cut across 2, no 3, no 4 lanes in order to get into the flow of traffic. This is the NORMAL course of events. If there is an accident on anyone of the three roadways, well, I just look for an alternate route. Traffic often moves better when one of the movements is blocked (preferably the ramp from US-101NB to I-880SB) sufficiently early on US-101. That ought to tell you everything that you need to know about the configuration!

Brandon

Around Chicago, The Circle.  This one has the power to fuck up not just the Ryan, Kennedy, and Ike expressways, but also the Stevenson (with the interchange near it), the Edens, the Bishop Ford, and I-57.
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kphoger

I-135/I-235/K-254

Afternoon rush hour traffic is heavy going from NB 135 to SB 235.  On that movement which probably carries half of the NB 135 traffic...
1. There is no dedicated exit lane,
2. There is a 25-mph loop ramp,
3. Traffic has to merge onto a 60-mph highway,
4. Said highway immediately narrows to one lane over a bridge.

Traffic frequently backs up for a mile due to the choke point.  I am fortunate enough to have an opposite-direction commute, to where I'm traveling southbound at the time.
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Quote from: kphoger on April 19, 2017, 02:00:50 PM
I-135/I-235/K-254

Afternoon rush hour traffic is heavy going from NB 135 to SB 235.  On that movement which probably carries half of the NB 135 traffic...
1. There is no dedicated exit lane,
2. There is a 25-mph loop ramp,
3. Traffic has to merge onto a 60-mph highway,
4. Said highway immediately narrows to one lane over a bridge.

Traffic frequently backs up for a mile due to the choke point.  I am fortunate enough to have an opposite-direction commute, to where I'm traveling southbound at the time.

Jeez. I never realized it drops to one lane there. the short left hand exits would be bad enough.

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Quote from: ColossalBlocks on April 19, 2017, 11:16:29 AM
What are some interchanges in your state/city that always seem to be completely clusterfucked?

ColossalBlocks, what are your your examples?
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I-10/AZ 202/AZ 51 was always a disaster when I lived in Phoenix.  All three freeways were usually running smoothly until a mile or two of that interchange...but I guess that's what happens when all that traffic converges into a single point.  Florida's Turnpike and FL 528 was probably the strangest design that I've ever countered.  From FL 528 westbound you literally have to do a 360 degree turn almost onto OBT (US 17/92/441) followed by a couple 180 degree turns to get to the southbound Turnpike.  Worse yet is that if you aren't paying attention and don't get into the left lane at this booth there is no way to get back to the Southbound Turnpike for several miles:

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Joe The Dragon

I-290 / I-294 / I-88 + local roads is a mess.

I-294 / I-55 needs work.

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LM117

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Nothing to really speak of regarding Danville, but I hate the NC-147/US-15/501 interchange in Durham, NC. I have to commute there a lot since our primary care doctor is at one of Duke's clinics on Pickett Road.

PS: For those wondering why I travel 60+ miles for a primary doctor, the healthcare in Danville fucking sucks (like most everything else in this godforsaken town) and the local hospital is one of the worst hospitals in Virginia. I'm definitely not the only one that drives miles for decent healthcare.
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Mr_Northside

Here in the Pittsburgh area, almost all of the interchanges on I-376 between Monroeville and I-79.

Some function much better than others (depending on traffic volume), but almost all look a little CF'd to look at.
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Quote from: oscar on April 19, 2017, 02:37:44 PM
Quote from: ColossalBlocks on April 19, 2017, 11:16:29 AM
What are some interchanges in your state/city that always seem to be completely clusterfucked?

ColossalBlocks, what are your your examples?

Why do that when you can start a thread and watch it grow?
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kkt

Quote from: jakeroot on April 19, 2017, 05:14:48 PM
Quote from: kkt on April 19, 2017, 02:25:29 PM
I-90 to I-5.
Washington's official cluster fuck is the 167/18 interchange...

18-167 is annoying, but not as bad for sheer person-hours of delay, I think...

Buffaboy

I-90 @ NY-33, it too should've been upgraded a while ago
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Quote from: kkt on April 19, 2017, 06:21:34 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on April 19, 2017, 05:14:48 PM
Quote from: kkt on April 19, 2017, 02:25:29 PM
I-90 to I-5.

Washington's official cluster fuck is the 167/18 interchange...

18-167 is annoying, but not as bad for sheer person-hours of delay, I think...

I suspect you may be right. But the 90/5 junction isn't much of a "clusterfuck". It provides ramps for all movements, the ramps are all well-designed and are capable of supporting high speeds and lots of volume. Just turns out that today's volume is too much for it.

I think of the 167/18 junction as a true clusterfuck because the whole thing, from start to finish, was very poorly executed. It takes up a titanic amount of land, yet it provides low capacity movements in limited directions.

ColossalBlocks, please define clusterfuck. There seems to be too many ideas of what it could mean.

1995hoo

Quote from: LM117 on April 19, 2017, 05:45:54 PM
Nothing to really speak of regarding Danville, but I hate the NC-147/US-15/501 interchange in Durham, NC. I have to commute there a lot since our primary care doctor is at one of Duke's clinics on Pickett Road.

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That entire area was always a pain in the arse. I lived on Erwin Road just east of Anderson Street from 1995 to 1998 and getting from I-85 to my apartment was a perpetual nuisance, with the portion south of Durham (heading to or from Charlotte) being the worst because NC-147 ended at 15/501 back then and everything else right around there required going through too many traffic lights. I know it's better now.
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Sacramento -- and Caltrans' penchant for in-city turbines and quasi-turbines (something they've not repeated elsewhere) mixed in with local-service exits & entrances has resulted in an almost perpetual state of congestion at the Oak Park (50/99/Biz80) interchange as well as the 5/50/Biz80 interchange a couple of miles to the west (the latter complicated by the location of the Pioneer Bridge on 50/B80).  I can understand the desire to consume as little acreage as possible, but to actually place through-route movement (old I-80, current CA 99) onto low-speed turbine ramps is probably one of the least efficient and effective practices that can be deployed.  Fortunately, the 5/50 etc. interchange has a bit more room with which to work, so some ramps are less troublesome than with Oak Park; but both facilities see almost daily mainline backups as drivers toggling between the freeways slow down to make the necessary moves.  Add to that lane changes which require competing with local off/on traffic, and a recipe for daily grief comes together!  I'm up in the Sacramento area at least once a month to handle a client/subcontractor -- and I avoid that section of freeway assiduously (I tend to use Grant Line and Sunrise (E2) to get out to the Folsom area where the client is located). 

At least IDOT had the good sense back in the '70's to reroute I-90 as a through route through Chicago's Circle interchange rather than turning it 90 degrees onto the Ike at that location!         

formulanone

Quote from: oscar on April 19, 2017, 02:37:44 PM
Quote from: ColossalBlocks on April 19, 2017, 11:16:29 AM
What are some interchanges in your state/city that always seem to be completely clusterfucked?

ColossalBlocks, what are your your examples?

Thanks, now I know it's not just me that finds the daily "post-thread-and-runaway" tactic a bit annoying.

ColossalBlocks

Quote from: LM117 on April 19, 2017, 05:45:54 PM
Nothing to really speak of regarding Danville, but I hate the NC-147/US-15/501 interchange in Durham, NC. I have to commute there a lot since our primary care doctor is at one of Duke's clinics on Pickett Road.

PS: For those wondering why I travel 60+ miles for a primary doctor, the healthcare in Danville fucking sucks (like most everything else in this godforsaken town) and the local hospital is one of the worst hospitals in Virginia. I'm definitely not the only one that drives miles for decent healthcare.

Speaking of Danville, why did you move there if the town is a shithole?
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Quote from: epzik8 on April 19, 2017, 12:42:27 PM
I-95/695, Exit 33/64 in Rosedale, Maryland (just northeast of Baltimore) might be one, to some extent. I think both highways lose a lane within that interchange. It's sort of difficult for traffic to merge from the ramps onto each highway.
:confused: Wasn't that interchange reconfigured not too long ago?  One of the biggest changes was longer ramps.
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I-91 North to CT 15 North (and eventually, I-84 East), and CT 15 South (from I-84 West) to I-91 South.  At least the latter has an alternate if the direct interchange is a mess.  ConnDOT has plans to fix it.  Historically, the old I-84 East to I-91 North connection was a joke in which one would have to get off and use Morgan St and Columbus Blvd to connect to I-91 North.
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LM117

Quote from: ColossalBlocks on April 19, 2017, 07:31:02 PM
Quote from: LM117 on April 19, 2017, 05:45:54 PM
Nothing to really speak of regarding Danville, but I hate the NC-147/US-15/501 interchange in Durham, NC. I have to commute there a lot since our primary care doctor is at one of Duke's clinics on Pickett Road.

PS: For those wondering why I travel 60+ miles for a primary doctor, the healthcare in Danville fucking sucks (like most everything else in this godforsaken town) and the local hospital is one of the worst hospitals in Virginia. I'm definitely not the only one that drives miles for decent healthcare.

Speaking of Danville, why did you move there if the town is a shithole?

It wasn't really my choice. We were all living together. My grandmother had a brother living there, who had lung cancer, so she wanted to move to be close to him. We came here in 2011. She ended up suffering a massive stroke and passed away here at the house in 2014. Her brother died a year later in 2015. Neither she nor her brother were fond of the town, either.

I'm originally from eastern NC and if I had a way right now, I'd move out in a heartbeat.
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