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Striping Fails/Mistakes

Started by adventurernumber1, September 23, 2014, 10:09:08 PM

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Mergingtraffic

This could be considered a striping fail and in the pic, the right lane turns into a right-turn only lane that doesn't get much traffic. The left lane has the option of left-turn or going straight.  Traffic in the left-turn-only lane backs all the way up the hill blocking the left lane. 

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Middletown,+CT/@41.5619936,-72.6516345,88m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x89e64a65bdf7146f:0x6c1c794f3958b866

In my opinion, since the left-turn-only lane has a lot of traffic, it should be restriped as the left lane transitions into the left-turn-only lane and the right lane should have the option of going straight and turning right.  The current lane designation has a lot of people wishing to go straight crossing over into the right lane only to cross back over into the straight lane.
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adventurernumber1

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https://www.google.com/maps/@45.0227011,-73.0835266,3a,75y,14.41h,82.3t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sKlrVm6cZUlQc25J3vBNBAw!2e0

QC 133 (what I-89 turns into after it reaches the US-Canada border), right near the border. Not too bad, but another restriping job where they put the new broken stripes in the gaps between the old broken stripes.
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Roadrunner75

Maybe this belongs in a "Bad traffic control in shopping centers" thread, but the Ocean County Mall has a thing for separating lanes of traffic in the same direction with yellow solid or dashed stripes, as in this example:
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=39.982102,-74.178883&spn=0.000016,0.013078&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.981999,-74.180999&panoid=DPkz0zmakaUr77HIeTsd0w&cbp=12,123.77,,0,1.41
A few of the entrances/exits feature the solid yellow, and the loop road in the parking lot has some dashed yellow striping separating lanes.



mrsman

Quote from: Roadrunner75 on December 20, 2014, 09:43:16 PM
Maybe this belongs in a "Bad traffic control in shopping centers" thread, but the Ocean County Mall has a thing for separating lanes of traffic in the same direction with yellow solid or dashed stripes, as in this example:
https://www.google.com/maps?ll=39.982102,-74.178883&spn=0.000016,0.013078&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=39.981999,-74.180999&panoid=DPkz0zmakaUr77HIeTsd0w&cbp=12,123.77,,0,1.41
A few of the entrances/exits feature the solid yellow, and the loop road in the parking lot has some dashed yellow striping separating lanes.

I've seen traffic control practices in private parking lots so bad that they are not worthy of mention.  Anything goes when you're not required to follow standards.

I suppose that means that they can't enforce speed limits and stop signs and the like.  They are really there only for knowing who has the right of way in the event of a traffic collision.  Whoever violated the stop bar should have stopped to prevent an accident, but they made no moving violation if there is no red stop sign.

adventurernumber1

#29
I see wacky striping ideas all the time on anything that is not an actual road.

An example is on this parking-lot-road at Walnut Square Mall here in Dalton:

https://www.google.com/maps/@34.7585079,-84.9310357,3a,75y,55.84h,83.46t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1s97h8Iv9JFID5RYSthvF1_w!2e0

They do use yellow striping to separate traffic going in the opposite direction but they also use it to separate traffic going in the same direction  :crazy: :confused:

EDIT: I actually just noticed this looking at the street view (I never see it nowadays, probably because its completely faded now I guess), that there apparently used to be white striping where the dashed yellow striping dividing travel in the same direction is now. The fact that they changed the color during a restriping makes it all the wackier!!  :confused:
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cu2010

Common in NY, especially in the North Country.

R7, during yearly restriping projects, does one side at a time, often months apart; this can often yield messy setups, especially since the old stripes aren't removed. Clearly the truck took the corner at a slightly different angle every single time the road was restriped...
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Here in Huntsville, the city messed up the striping on Andrew Jackson Way north of Pratt Avenue. I'll see if I can get some pictures soon.
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cl94

Quote from: cu2010 on January 15, 2015, 02:08:35 AM
Common in NY, especially in the North Country.

R7, during yearly restriping projects, does one side at a time, often months apart; this can often yield messy setups, especially since the old stripes aren't removed. Clearly the truck took the corner at a slightly different angle every single time the road was restriped...

Erie County does this. They'll also paint over potholes. In very rare circumstances, they'll fix the pothole at some point, but the lines are never repainted over the filled-in spot.
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jakeroot

Quote from: SignGeek101 on January 28, 2015, 11:44:19 PM
I-5 near the border.

http://goo.gl/maps/2yxg5

Basically all of Whatcom County is this bad. I've been trying to figure out for years why the striping is so bad through here, so far I haven't been able to figure it out.

Ned Weasel

#36
I wouldn't call this a mistake, since it looks intentional, and maybe it's really more appropriate for this old thread: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=4439.msg97294#msg97294

But I've been wanting to share this--thing--that really annoys me:

https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.616365,-88.99121&spn=0.002618,0.004935&t=k&z=18

https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=37.616654,-88.990948&spn=0.002601,0.004935&t=k&z=18&layer=c&cbll=37.616723,-88.990904&panoid=v7Td2lzgept-HCBdE_eoXA&cbp=12,208.07,,0,4.3

What's wrong with it?  Well, what's right with it?  Not only is it an unstriped auxiliary lane on a freeway, but since the exit it approaches has two lanes, it leaves open two possible interpretations: (1) the auxiliary lane remains a single lane all the way to the theoretical gore, at which point it splits into two lanes, or (2) the middle lane is an option lane.  I assume (1) is the correct interpretation, since, for all practical purposes, an option lane needs to be indicated by striping; however (2) would make more sense from a design perspective.  The problem with this is that, if two drivers have different interpretations, a driver in the auxiliary lane assuming (1) could take the left of the two lanes for I-24 while a driver in the center lane assuming (2) could treat it as an option lane and crash with the driver coming from the auxiliary lane.

Seriously, what was the thought process behind the decision to leave the lane unstriped here?  And I'm convinced that it was, actually, a decision since (a) the lane is striped for some distance after the on-ramp joins the mainline, and (b) having seen the same thing on the satellite image, in Street View, and IRL leads me to believe that it's been that way for a rather long time.
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SignGeek101

http://goo.gl/maps/s1Tsj

Never thought I'd see double white lines. This is probably intentional, but seems interesting nonetheless. Wonder why it was done.   :hmmm:

cl94

Quote from: SignGeek101 on April 03, 2015, 11:33:39 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/s1Tsj

Never thought I'd see double white lines. This is probably intentional, but seems interesting nonetheless. Wonder why it was done.   :hmmm:

That doesn't look intentional. Looks like a typical Erie County paint job- paint the white line somewhat close to the old one and hope nobody notices any difference.
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jeffandnicole

Quote from: cl94 on April 03, 2015, 11:39:24 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on April 03, 2015, 11:33:39 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/s1Tsj

Never thought I'd see double white lines. This is probably intentional, but seems interesting nonetheless. Wonder why it was done.   :hmmm:

That doesn't look intentional. Looks like a typical Erie County paint job- paint the white line somewhat close to the old one and hope nobody notices any difference.

At worst, it's simply a way to narrow down a lane to widen the shoulder and allow the older line to eventually fade away. Or, the GSV vehicle simply made it's way down the road after the new line was stripped, but before the old line was sandblasted away.  Hardly a stripping fail imo, but rather an intentional decision.

jakeroot

Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 04, 2015, 12:08:33 AM
Quote from: cl94 on April 03, 2015, 11:39:24 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on April 03, 2015, 11:33:39 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/s1Tsj

Never thought I'd see double white lines. This is probably intentional, but seems interesting nonetheless. Wonder why it was done.   :hmmm:

That doesn't look intentional. Looks like a typical Erie County paint job- paint the white line somewhat close to the old one and hope nobody notices any difference.

At worst, it's simply a way to narrow down a lane to widen the shoulder and allow the older line to eventually fade away. Or, the GSV vehicle simply made it's way down the road after the new line was stripped, but before the old line was sandblasted away.  Hardly a stripping fail imo, but rather an intentional decision.

Any chance the double white is indicating no crossing? As in, "don't use this area of the road for anything ever"?

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Quote from: jakeroot on April 04, 2015, 03:40:59 AM
Quote from: jeffandnicole on April 04, 2015, 12:08:33 AM
Quote from: cl94 on April 03, 2015, 11:39:24 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on April 03, 2015, 11:33:39 PM
http://goo.gl/maps/s1Tsj

Never thought I'd see double white lines. This is probably intentional, but seems interesting nonetheless. Wonder why it was done.   :hmmm:

That doesn't look intentional. Looks like a typical Erie County paint job- paint the white line somewhat close to the old one and hope nobody notices any difference.

At worst, it's simply a way to narrow down a lane to widen the shoulder and allow the older line to eventually fade away. Or, the GSV vehicle simply made it's way down the road after the new line was stripped, but before the old line was sandblasted away.  Hardly a stripping fail imo, but rather an intentional decision.

Any chance the double white is indicating no crossing? As in, "don't use this area of the road for anything ever"?

Can't vouch for Canada, but not in the MUTCD.  Double-white is supposed to be used between lanes where crossing is illegal, not the shoulder.  By design, there's no reason for that shoulder to be restricted. 
Take the road less traveled.

jeffandnicole

By scrolling up and down the road a bit, much of the shoulder outside where this picture was taken is gravel. The second line appears for only a short area.  Additionally, the spacing between the lines is much wider than normal for a double line marking. And at one point, there's a turn lane where the older lane was more intentionally removed.

My opinion stands: the older line made the lane too wide, and they simply restriped the roadway to narrow the lane down and make the shoulder a bit wider. Every other reasoning is simply reading into this wayyyyyyy too much.

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colinstu

Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 22, 2015, 07:11:40 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/CUw5V

I doubt this was intentional.

California does that for upcoming exits. Something to do with there being heavy fog and if you can barely see, you can at least see the lines / that pattern in them.

SignGeek101

Quote from: colinstu on June 22, 2015, 07:14:46 PM
Quote from: SignGeek101 on June 22, 2015, 07:11:40 PM
https://goo.gl/maps/CUw5V

I doubt this was intentional.

California does that for upcoming exits. Something to do with there being heavy fog and if you can barely see, you can at least see the lines / that pattern in them.

Ok, thanks. Wasn't sure. Never seen that before.

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slorydn1

Quote from: Rothman on June 22, 2015, 08:03:30 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on June 22, 2015, 07:48:13 PM
Saw this coming back from the beach on Saturday, wasn't quick enough to get a photo: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.743306,-84.390032,3a,75y,43.01h,70t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQzt_WdtM55HGxIh5a7PLZg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656



I done did a good job, yes I done did!

More like "Damn, I knew I should have stayed away from the Tequila the night before that job".
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Quote from: slorydn1 on June 22, 2015, 09:22:05 PM
Quote from: Rothman on June 22, 2015, 08:03:30 PM
Quote from: Tom958 on June 22, 2015, 07:48:13 PM
Saw this coming back from the beach on Saturday, wasn't quick enough to get a photo: https://www.google.com/maps/@33.743306,-84.390032,3a,75y,43.01h,70t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sQzt_WdtM55HGxIh5a7PLZg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656



I done did a good job, yes I done did!

More like "Damn, I knew I should have stayed away from the Tequila the night before that job".

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