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Interstate Interchange Puzzle

Started by CtrlAltDel, August 11, 2017, 11:10:03 AM

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CtrlAltDel

A while ago, I was looking at the interchanges between (what I consider to be) the major interstates, and I made the following chart.



The problem is that I have forgotten what this is a chart of. Poking around, I see that a gray square indicates that there is no interchange between the routes in question. I also have surmised that C, P, and M, stand for complete, partial, and multiplex, and these letters most likely represents the type of interchange at the junctions in question.

I still, though, have no idea what Y and N stand for. I do know that it’s something I, as a road geek, cared enough about to make a chart, but past that, I got nothing. And so, I ask for your expertise to help figure it out. Any ideas you might have that are consistent with the Y’s and N’s as presented would be helpful.
Interstates clinched: 4, 57, 275 (IN-KY-OH), 465 (IN), 640 (TN), 985
State Interstates clinched: I-26 (TN), I-75 (GA), I-75 (KY), I-75 (TN), I-81 (WV), I-95 (NH)


hotdogPi

Y and N are almost certainly Yes and No.

Does "Y" correspond to where you have been (considering that the document is years old)?
Clinched

Traveled, plus
US 13, 44, 50
MA 22, 40, 107, 109, 117, 119, 126, 141, 159
NH 27, 111A(E); CA 133; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

NE2

pre-1945 Florida route log

I accept and respect your identity as long as it's not dumb shit like "identifying as a vaccinated attack helicopter".

inkyatari

Adding Y and N equals 44.

Adding C, P and M also equal 44


Therefore I'd go with 1's answer of the Y and N meaning interchanges you've been to.
I'm never wrong, just wildly inaccurate.

sparker

Quote from: CtrlAltDel on August 11, 2017, 11:10:03 AM
A while ago, I was looking at the interchanges between (what I consider to be) the major interstates, and I made the following chart.



The problem is that I have forgotten what this is a chart of. Poking around, I see that a gray square indicates that there is no interchange between the routes in question. I also have surmised that C, P, and M, stand for complete, partial, and multiplex, and these letters most likely represents the type of interchange at the junctions in question.

I still, though, have no idea what Y and N stand for. I do know that it's something I, as a road geek, cared enough about to make a chart, but past that, I got nothing. And so, I ask for your expertise to help figure it out. Any ideas you might have that are consistent with the Y's and N's as presented would be helpful.

Quote from: inkyatari on August 11, 2017, 03:03:01 PM
Adding Y and N equals 44.

Adding C, P and M also equal 44


Therefore I'd go with 1's answer of the Y and N meaning interchanges you've been to.

Decent start -- now you can concentrate on classifying the interchanges by type (beyond simply complete or partial); here's something to get you going: S=stack (I-10/15)  C=simple cloverleaf (I-25/80)  T=trumpet (I-15/90 west)  D=direct otherwise (I-10/25) P= turnpike interchange involving toll barriers (I-80/90 Indiana).  You'll probably think of others as you look at them on maps or GE/GSV.  Have fun!  :awesomeface:

Pink Jazz

#5
I don't see why you don't consider I-85 major.  It isn't one of the longest Interstates, but is functionally important since it links many major cities in the Southeast.  I would consider it more important than I-25 since it is much more urban along its length and serves more major cities.  I-25 is not a route that most people would drive from end to end; I-85 on the other hand is the backbone of the Southeast.

CtrlAltDel

Y and N do indeed stand for the interchanges that I have traveled through (even if I didn’t use one of the ramps). Thank you everyone for that suggestion.

Quote from: NE2 on August 11, 2017, 02:03:34 PM
65/90 isn't partial...
You are correct. I will change my chart.

Quote from: sparker on August 12, 2017, 12:26:43 AM
Decent start -- now you can concentrate on classifying the interchanges by type (beyond simply complete or partial); here's something to get you going: S=stack (I-10/15)  C=simple cloverleaf (I-25/80)  T=trumpet (I-15/90 west)  D=direct otherwise (I-10/25) P= turnpike interchange involving toll barriers (I-80/90 Indiana).  You'll probably think of others as you look at them on maps or GE/GSV.  Have fun!  :awesomeface:
That does sound like fun. Perhaps I’ll post that chart later.

Quote from: Pink Jazz on August 12, 2017, 12:34:00 AM
I don't see why you don't consider I-85 major.  It isn't one of the longest Interstates, but is functionally important since it links many major cities in the Southeast.  I would consider it more important than I-25 since it is much more urban along its length and serves more major cities.  I-25 is not a route that most people would drive from end to end; I-85 on the other hand is the backbone of the Southeast.

My criterion is indeed length. To count, in my reckoning, a north-south route has to be at least 800 miles long. It’s an arbitrary cut-off, I admit, but that’s about the length of the longer nonmajor north-south routes.
Interstates clinched: 4, 57, 275 (IN-KY-OH), 465 (IN), 640 (TN), 985
State Interstates clinched: I-26 (TN), I-75 (GA), I-75 (KY), I-75 (TN), I-81 (WV), I-95 (NH)

hotdogPi

Quote from: CtrlAltDel on August 12, 2017, 01:27:49 PM
My criterion is indeed length. To count, in my reckoning, a north-south route has to be at least 800 miles long. It's an arbitrary cut-off, I admit, but that's about the length of the longer nonmajor north-south routes.

I-81 is more than 800 miles long.
Clinched

Traveled, plus
US 13, 44, 50
MA 22, 40, 107, 109, 117, 119, 126, 141, 159
NH 27, 111A(E); CA 133; NY 366; GA 42, 140; FL A1A, 7; CT 32; VT 2A, 5A; PA 3, 51, 60, QC 162, 165, 263; 🇬🇧A100, A3211, A3213, A3215, A4222; 🇫🇷95 D316

OracleUsr

95 to 40 isn't a full cloverleaf.
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US 89


CtrlAltDel

#10
Quote from: 1 on August 12, 2017, 01:44:53 PM
Quote from: CtrlAltDel on August 12, 2017, 01:27:49 PM
My criterion is indeed length. To count, in my reckoning, a north-south route has to be at least 800 miles long. It’s an arbitrary cut-off, I admit, but that’s about the length of the longer nonmajor north-south routes.

I-81 is more than 800 miles long.

True, but it doesn't end in 5 (or 0). Just to clarify things, here are my official criteria:

Quote
To be considered a major interstate:
1. A route traveling north-south must
     A. Have a designation ending in 5 and
     B. Be at least 800 miles in length.
2. A route traveling east-west must
     A. Have a designation ending in 0
     B. Be at least 1500 miles in length.

There are a number of "good" routes that don't fit these criteria. I-94 and I-81 in particular would be major routes if I got rid of the 5/0 requirement. I-29 would also work, except for the 5/0 bit, if I lowered the length criteria to 750, that is, half the east-west length.

I want to insist that my way is not the only way to do these things. Here, I'm just explaining myself.

. . .

Quote from: OracleUsr on August 12, 2017, 06:30:25 PM
95 to 40 isn't a full cloverleaf.

Quote from: roadguy2 on August 12, 2017, 07:45:46 PM
And 15 to 70 is a trumpet.

In case there's any confusion, the C in my chart means "complete," not cloverleaf.
Interstates clinched: 4, 57, 275 (IN-KY-OH), 465 (IN), 640 (TN), 985
State Interstates clinched: I-26 (TN), I-75 (GA), I-75 (KY), I-75 (TN), I-81 (WV), I-95 (NH)



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