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Started by CentralCAroadgeek, June 29, 2012, 08:22:36 PM

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TrevorB



PHLBOS

A little Oops on the placement of the NORTH cardinal. 
More likely a fabrication error than a design error since all the other northbound pull-through BGS' along the way don't have the same error, per this example.

While it could be argued that these pull-throughs are erroneous since the highway's actually I-495 not I-95; this is one of those (I started this thread covering such) situations where such omission gets a pass given that I-495 northbound ends at I-95 northbound about 1 mile from this interchange. 

Previous generation signage had JUNCTION X MILE banners above the 95 NORTH Chester Philadelphia a la PA Turnpike style interchange name banners.
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formulanone

#627
Quote from: TrevorB on April 06, 2015, 06:50:04 PM
Probably been posted before since its in Nashville, but anyway:

https://www.google.com/maps/@36.152501,-86.76655,3a,36.2y,235.11h,97.87t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1sKoQ8R3EdApr24RsX9McQpQ!2e0




There's an all-caps BGS like this at US 280 at I-85 in Auburn/Opelika.

It's more of a double-take than anything...the spacing looks okay to me even if it isn't following modern specs, and apparently, they've been in place for several years.

hbelkins

That Nashville sign can't be that old. All the overheads at the interstate splits downtown were replaced in their entirety, IIRC, when I-265 bit the dust and I-65 was rerouted.


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NE2

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thenetwork

Quote from: NE2 on May 25, 2015, 11:52:29 AM


Maybe I'm all too familiar with the Chicago highway system, but in my book, "expressways" are always freeways.  Tolled Highways are always Turnpikes, Tollways or Toll Roads.  Never the twain shall meet,... er overlap.

hotdogPi

Quote from: thenetwork on May 25, 2015, 12:04:24 PM
Quote from: NE2 on May 25, 2015, 11:52:29 AM


Maybe I'm all too familiar with the Chicago highway system, but in my book, "expressways" are always freeways.  Tolled Highways are always Turnpikes, Tollways or Toll Roads.  Never the twain shall meet,... er overlap.

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jakeroot

If it's okay, I'd rather go north on the 408.

hotdogPi

Quote from: jakeroot on May 25, 2015, 01:38:53 PM
If it's okay, I'd rather go north on the 408.

California has taken over Florida...
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jakeroot

Quote from: 1 on May 25, 2015, 01:41:41 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 25, 2015, 01:38:53 PM
If it's okay, I'd rather go north on the 408.

California has taken over Florida...

You can thank my mom for me saying that. I've never lived in California, but anytime we go anywhere, it's "take the 5 to the 405, then go a few miles to the 90...."

OracleUsr

 I assume the design error is the raised caps on the name?
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hotdogPi

Quote from: OracleUsr on May 25, 2015, 02:00:18 PM
I assume the design error is the raised caps on the name?

I thought it was the bugged VMS (which I parodied a few posts ago by blanking out letters).
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US 13, 44, 50
MA 22, 40, 107, 109, 117, 119, 126, 141, 159
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jakeroot

Quote from: 1 on May 25, 2015, 02:13:15 PM
Quote from: OracleUsr on May 25, 2015, 02:00:18 PM
I assume the design error is the raised caps on the name?

I thought it was the bugged VMS (which I parodied a few posts ago by blanking out letters).

I'm still wondering the purpose of "EAST-WEST".

PS: It's not bugged, it's just LED's mixing poorly with camera lenses (though I must admit, some characters, regardless, look out of place).

Mr. Matté


Stratuscaster

Quote from: jakeroot on May 25, 2015, 02:21:50 PM
I'm still wondering the purpose of "EAST-WEST".
Is that not the name of the road?

jakeroot

Quote from: Stratuscaster on May 25, 2015, 06:18:38 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 25, 2015, 02:21:50 PM
I'm still wondering the purpose of "EAST-WEST".

Is that not the name of the road?

I'll be damned, it is. I thought they were over-designing the sign (cardinal directions are only included if the exit is for one or the other -- both directions, it's excluded).

UCFKnights

Also that is a relatively new VMS... has animations between each one, it is just midchange. I don't get why, but all of that style seem to do that. I also don't get the multicolor aspect of it

6a


Quote from: jakeroot on May 25, 2015, 06:47:30 PM
(cardinal directions are only included if the exit is for one or the other -- both directions, it's excluded).
In that case...


jakeroot

Quote from: 6a on May 25, 2015, 07:15:25 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 25, 2015, 06:47:30 PM
(cardinal directions are only included if the exit is for one or the other -- both directions, it's excluded).

In that case...

...When there's only one lane.  My mistake.

NE2

Quote from: OracleUsr on May 25, 2015, 02:00:18 PM
I assume the design error is the raised caps on the name?
Yes. The name is East-West Expressway.
pre-1945 Florida route log

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vtk

Quote from: NE2 on May 25, 2015, 11:52:29 AM


To clarify for others what was obvious to me:...

The design error is that East and West are formatted as cardinal direction elements, rather than as a road name (which should be mixed EM), because that's the name of the road.  "Expwy" should probably be mixed case, too, as it is also part of the road name.

The VMS looks glitchy only because the camera's shutter speed was much faster than the scan rate of the display. Only one row of LEDs are ever lit at a time, each row lit in sequence, in a cycle that repeats at least 30 times per second. In the time the camera's shutter was open, several (but not all) rows of LEDs lit and extinguished. The sign is actually made up of several smaller modules which have scan cycles independent from one another, so different modules were caught in different phases of their cycles, making the sign look glitchier than if the whole sign were driven by a single controller. I'm sure it looked just fine in person
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odditude

#646
Quote from: vtk on May 25, 2015, 08:03:50 PM
To clarify for others what was obvious to me:...
Trollin' trollin' trollin', NE2's just trollin'...

Quote from: Mr. Matté on May 25, 2015, 02:24:51 PM
Yellow speed limit sign ∴ not enforceable (except in cases of end of the month and/or DWB):
https://www.google.com/lochp?ll=40.287055,-74.791489&spn=0.056307,0.111494&t=h&z=14&layer=c&cbll=40.287013,-74.791402&panoid=kevilpTBZ-LEt8VOBzzdig&cbp=12,350.91,,2,3.31
...except it's an advisory speed for the curve, using the wrong-style panel - the speed limit on the road is 35. right thread, wrong reason.

formulanone

#647
Quote from: jakeroot on May 25, 2015, 01:57:54 PM
Quote from: 1 on May 25, 2015, 01:41:41 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 25, 2015, 01:38:53 PM
If it's okay, I'd rather go north on the 408.

California has taken over Florida...

You can thank my mom for me saying that. I've never lived in California, but anytime we go anywhere, it's "take the 5 to the 405, then go a few miles to the 90...."

You might find this odd...but you won't be flogged, pimp-slapped, hit with a fish, murdered, strangled, laughed at, nor turned over local authorities for saying "freeway" or "The (interstate number)" in Florida. I know, hard to believe.

EXPWY is an odd abbreviation and I've always detested raised caps.

cl94

Quote from: formulanone on May 28, 2015, 09:42:27 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 25, 2015, 01:57:54 PM
Quote from: 1 on May 25, 2015, 01:41:41 PM
Quote from: jakeroot on May 25, 2015, 01:38:53 PM
If it's okay, I'd rather go north on the 408.

California has taken over Florida...

You can thank my mom for me saying that. I've never lived in California, but anytime we go anywhere, it's "take the 5 to the 405, then go a few miles to the 90...."

You might find this odd...but you won't be flogged, pimp-slapped, hit with a fish, murdered, strangled, laughed at, nor turned over local authorities for saying "freeway" or "the (interstate number)" in Florida. I know, hard to believe.

EXPWY is an odd abbreviation.

I hate how people in Buffalo refer to everything as "the (number)". HATE it. Go to the eastern part of New York and people would probably laugh or perform one of the aforementioned action. Hell, the local news was once reporting an issue on I-87 and referred to it as "the 87". My ears started to bleed.
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jakeroot

Quote from: cl94 on May 28, 2015, 09:46:59 PM
I hate how people in Buffalo refer to everything as "the (number)". HATE it. Go to the eastern part of New York and people would probably laugh or perform one of the aforementioned action. Hell, the local news was once reporting an issue on I-87 and referred to it as "the 87". My ears started to bleed.

Oh my god it's not that bad. I mean, at least it's not grammatically incorrect. Definite articles ("the" for example) are used to describe a particular noun; in this case, a freeway is a particular thing, therefore "the [highway number]" isn't wrong. Sure, you're dropping the highway prefix, but as long as your state isn't really bad about reusing numbers, the issue is nil.



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