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Title: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: Voyager on January 20, 2009, 06:23:36 PM
Has it been completed past Elmira yet? This has got to be one of the most interesting Interstates I've ever seen, especially with how it's routed through the state.
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: Alex on January 20, 2009, 06:36:04 PM
Interstate 86 is also fully signed on a brief segment leading east from Interstate 81.
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: agentsteel53 on January 20, 2009, 06:38:54 PM
there are also I-86 shields in Sullivan County!

(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.artistjake.com%2Flj%2Fw10700.jpg&hash=b78279be65674f95b9dca851ecd867507f0bd25e)
(https://www.aaroads.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.artistjake.com%2Flj%2Fw10706.jpg&hash=d636869cb65f3f3d46d1f7424a0f17316b64d7a3)

free standing, and on green sign.  Yes, a state name on the I-shield is too much to ask for.
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: vdeane on January 20, 2009, 07:17:01 PM
As far as I know, it hasn't.  I really wish the DOT would get moving with it.  It's like after they got that first segment to Corning that they don't care anymore.
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: Snappyjack on January 21, 2009, 02:03:43 AM
They have kinda slowed down the pace with the conversion. Nothing has really been completed since the Horseheads/Elmira project in 2005/2006. Yes, a small section east of Binghamton was also signed, as mentioned.

The only parts needed to be fixed is where the road meets I-81 in Binghamton, and various locations throughout the Catskill Mountains(at grade intersections, driveways, etc). The I-86 to I-87 south exit ramp at the eastern terminus was recently widened and extended, and the northbound entrance and exit ramps are currently being widened to coincide with the Highway Speed EZPass project that is taking place at the mainline Thruway toll barrier at that location.
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: vdeane on January 21, 2009, 08:07:33 PM
There's also the at-grade intersections east of Elmira.
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: Dougtone on January 23, 2009, 06:58:28 AM
There is also a section in Chemung County that needs to be upgraded, east of Elmira.
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: njroadhorse on January 24, 2009, 01:57:16 PM
Is NY 17 going to be cosigned once its all finished?  :confused:
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: vdeane on January 24, 2009, 02:10:42 PM
No one is really sure.  I would hope that they could move NY 17 back to its original alignment.  No need to have it cosigned the whole way and it would be a shame to have it decommissioned.

The sign assemblies all have I-86 and the Southern Tier Expressway and (where applicable) NY 15 on the same assembly but NY 17 is always separate.  Therefore I think it won't be cosigned when I-86 is complete.
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: Chris on January 24, 2009, 02:15:33 PM
Any chance the NY-17/I-86 will get extended from it's current terminus near Harriman via Peekskill to Norwalk? (U.S. 7 / I-95)? Would make a nice bypass of the greater New York metro.
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: Snappyjack on January 24, 2009, 05:54:12 PM
Yes, but this is New York. You will never see it happen. Every time there is a call to expand a road or build a new one, it is shot down due to there being "too much traffic" on the new roads, or a lack thereof to warrant a new highway in the first place. Total excuses to avoid the truth if you ask me. Yes, it would be nice, and yes it would ease congestion, but alas, I won't hold my breath.

I have tons of ideas to get traffic flowing in New York's cities, many of which were original, rejected proposals. Unfortunately, politics get in the way.
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: Dougtone on January 24, 2009, 09:19:51 PM
Politics always seem to get in the way of a lot of projects around New York State, and with finances the way they're going now here in the Empire State, I suspect a lot of road projects that do make their way past the proposal stage will take a back seat to more pressing issues.
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: us44mt on January 26, 2009, 09:42:53 AM
I'm wondering if I 86 will ever make it east of Binghamton. In light of the amount of upgrades needed and current economic conditions, I have my doubts.
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: TheHighwayMan3561 on January 31, 2009, 07:18:23 PM
Who is the face on the Southern Tier Expressway signs?
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: Alex on February 01, 2009, 06:15:12 PM
Quote from: us44mt on January 26, 2009, 09:42:53 AM
I'm wondering if I 86 will ever make it east of Binghamton. In light of the amount of upgrades needed and current economic conditions, I have my doubts.

Well there's already a stretch of NY 17 that is now a part of Interstate 86 from Interstate 81 eastward  :-P
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: us44mt on February 01, 2009, 07:16:09 PM
I would think that it can't be a very long stretch as I remember that there are still homes with driveways along the route, I think within 20-25 miles of Binghamton.

I was really thinking of the areas down closer to where I am. The Parksville area is still a problem and many of the exit/entrance ramps in Orange County are sub standard. Exit 122 eastbound is awful.
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: vdeane on February 01, 2009, 10:41:17 PM
It reverts to just NY 17 at exit 79 (ironically NY 79); is it not interstate standards between exits 79 and 84 for some reason?
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: jackson1300 on April 06, 2009, 10:36:43 AM
In my opinion, NY 17 and NY 15 should be decommisioned completely from west of the US-15 interchange, and all current interstate standard portions of 17 should be renamed I-86/NY-17, while at-grade sections instead of being signed "Future I-86", should be temporarily signed as either "Temporary 86" or even better NY-17/Business I-86 until the upgrades are completed, which in my opinion of sorts would stretch out I-86 the entire length from I-90 near Erie, PA all the way to I-87/NY Thruway near Harriman, NY.  Then all the signs could read I-86/NY-17,or Bus.86/NY-17. 

Then I believe that I-99 should be stretched from its current end near Bellefonte, PA onto I-80 and follow the US-220 corridor from near Lock Haven, PA to follow the US-15 freeway corridor from Williamsport, PA to Corning, NY then either terminate at I-86 or follow I-86 WB to replace I-390 to Rochester, NY and terminate at I-490 near downtown Rochester, or at I-590 Downtown Rochester.
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: mightyace on April 06, 2009, 06:13:38 PM
QuoteThen I believe that I-99 should be stretched from its current end near Bellefonte, PA onto I-80 and follow the US-220 corridor from near Lock Haven, PA to follow the US-15 freeway corridor from Williamsport, PA to Corning, NY

That part has been on the books for some time now.  There are a few freeway gaps on US 220 and US 15 that need to be finished before I-99 is extended any farther north.  Some of those are already in progress.

Anything beyond Corning is just speculation at this point.
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: Alex on April 07, 2009, 12:30:02 AM
And I see no need to extend Interstate 99 northward to Rochester from its planned end at Interstate 86. I certainly hope that it does not happen, as Interstate 390 has some nostalgic meaning for me.
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: PAHighways on April 07, 2009, 11:18:24 AM
Since New York is out of x90s, an extension to Rochester would free up 390 to be used somewhere else.
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: Alex on April 07, 2009, 12:23:49 PM
That is assuming they would take Interstate 99 north to Interstate 490, then would New York 390 change to New York 99?

I doubt that New York would ever need another x090. Most of the cities that Interstate 90 travels through are not growing much these days...
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: Michael on April 10, 2009, 08:03:03 PM
Here's an update on the NY 17 to I-86 conversion:
http://cms.transportation.org/sites/route/docs/I-86%20New%20York%20High%20Priority%20Corr.pdf (http://cms.transportation.org/sites/route/docs/I-86%20New%20York%20High%20Priority%20Corr.pdf)
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: treichard on June 01, 2009, 01:56:31 AM
Between I-86 Exit 56 and I-87, are there any substandard sections of NY 17 that will not be either accepted as substandard or upgraded by reconstructing existing NY 17? That is, will any section of this part of existing NY 17 be bypassed by I-86 later? If so, from where to where?
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: Duke87 on June 01, 2009, 05:30:37 PM
There are three sections which still have at grade intersections that will need to be removed. Here (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=42.05146,-76.731777&spn=0.056212,0.219727&z=13), here (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=42.005428,-75.375009&spn=0.028127,0.109863&z=14), and here (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=41.858886,-74.771233&spn=0.028191,0.109863&z=14) (where that signal is). Nothing which is densely populated enough to require outright bypassing, just severing a few connections, building a few overpasses, putting in a few interchanges, and providing a bit of frontage along the existing routing.
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: Dougtone on June 20, 2009, 07:23:47 AM
Quote from: froggie on June 01, 2009, 06:28:09 AM
Well, there's the traffic signal at "Exit 98" in Parksville...


Last time I passed through Parksville, a few weeks ago, some clearing of trees was being done to start the construction of NY 17/Future I-86.  The new alignment through Parksville will actually pass just south of town, and south of where NY 17 currently is.
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: Dougtone on June 20, 2009, 07:26:08 AM
Quote from: us44mt on February 01, 2009, 07:16:09 PM
I would think that it can't be a very long stretch as I remember that there are still homes with driveways along the route, I think within 20-25 miles of Binghamton.

I was really thinking of the areas down closer to where I am. The Parksville area is still a problem and many of the exit/entrance ramps in Orange County are sub standard. Exit 122 eastbound is awful.

My understanding is that some of the NY 17 on/off ramps around Rock Hill will be removed starting in 2010 or 2011, due to not being up to standard.
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: Dougtone on June 20, 2009, 07:35:57 AM
Quote from: dougtone on January 23, 2009, 06:58:28 AM
There is also a section in Chemung County that needs to be upgraded, east of Elmira.

And apparently, the at-grade section of NY 17 between Exit 56 and Exit 59 will be reconstruction beginning this fall.  I want to say that the current westbound lanes will become a service/frontage road, while the freeway will be built on the current eastbound lanes, plus a new alignment next to the current eastbound lanes.  This is similar to the construction that took place on NY 17 between I-81 and NY 79 around 2000.

After that, most construction for the I-86 conversion west of Binghamton should be complete.  No work really needs to be done in Tioga County, and there is some minor bridge work currently taking place around Endicott.  Of course, there's also the reconstruction of the Prospect Mountain interchange (most people call it the Kamikaze Curve), which is where NY 17, I-81, the Chenango River, US 11 and NY 7 all meet up.  Expect a Binghamton road meet once construction begins there.
Title: Re: New York - Interstate 86
Post by: WNYroadgeek on August 07, 2009, 09:23:14 PM
Quote from: AARoads on April 07, 2009, 12:23:49 PM
That is assuming they would take Interstate 99 north to Interstate 490, then would New York 390 change to New York 99?

That would work as there's no NY 99 at the moment.