New Jersey

[Alps]

US 130.

And NJ 47, 49, 54, among others. Don't pay attention to facts if you're going to pay attention to roadman65.

[NE2]

54 is short and is only in South Jersey.


But CR 527.

[Roadrunner75]

I think Roadman was referring to state bannered routes that run N-S through both north and south Jersey (if we assume the division line is somewhere around 195, but that's a separate debate).  The only state route that crosses that line for any somewhat significant length is probably 35, but I wouldn't really consider that a South Jersey route.  US bannered routes, secret number freeways and even good old CR 527 (as noted above) hogged up all the good corridors between North and South Jersey.

[roadman65]

US 130.

US 130 is not a state designation.  It may be a state highway on the books, but it is not the circle shielded route that NJ gives.

In response to roadrunner, I would say that NJ 35 is iffy, as it just barely reaches South Jersey and just barely reaches North Jersey.

[bzakharin]

On the other hand, NJ 70 is the only East-West state route that spans almost the entire width of the state. NJ 49 sort of comes close. NJ 47 does it too, though it's signed North-South. All of these are in South Jersey, oddly enough.

[roadman65]

NJ 33 also spans the width of the state as well, but is in Central Jersey.

NJ 24 used to do it in North Jersey before it was truncated to Hackettstown in the early 70's.  Even though it stopped in Newark at Springfield Avenue and South Orange Avenue some eight miles from the Hudson River, still it was pretty close.

NJ even thought it has an abundance of state routes, has them mostly regionally or from E-W spanning the state's width more than complete N-S length do to the fact you have some designated US routes and now freeways doing that job. 

[Zeffy]

Other longer routes that don't span both North and South Jersey:

NJ 18 (Piscataway to NJ 138 in Wall Twp)
NJ 31 (US 46 in Buttzville to US 206 in Trenton)
NJ 23 (CR 577 in Verona to CR 15 in Montague)

[bzakharin]

Didn't know 33 spans the width. I've been on the 130/33 multiplex many times without knowing it. Is 33 signed anywhere along that stretch?

[Zeffy]

Didn't know 33 spans the width. I've been on the 130/33 multiplex many times without knowing it. Is 33 signed anywhere along that stretch?

A telltale sign is that "Trenton    13" was added to the next mileage sign, where it wasn't listed before (since 33 will go directly into Trenton). However, I know there's at least one hybrid reassurance marker located here.

[J Route Z]

Various guide signs are becoming mixed case letters, no more ALL CAPS, here: http://goo.gl/maps/xS0Ys but not here: just a 1/4 mile south: http://goo.gl/maps/YGeBq

here: http://goo.gl/maps/Ez1NQ and here: http://goo.gl/maps/WXJWu

I wonder if they will all eventually be replaced?

[Zeffy]

Various guide signs are becoming mixed case letters, no more ALL CAPS, here: http://goo.gl/maps/xS0Ys but not here: just a 1/4 mile south: http://goo.gl/maps/YGeBq

here: http://goo.gl/maps/Ez1NQ and here: http://goo.gl/maps/WXJWu

I wonder if they will all eventually be replaced?

Well, if I remember correctly, the MUTCD doesn't like all-caps destination signs anymore. Mixed case Series E is much more legible than all-caps Series D.

[NJRoadfan]

I noted that over 2 years ago . Exclusively all caps series D LGSes was always a NJDOT thing. Do any other states consistently use all caps ground mounted like NJ did? The closest I've seen is parts of South Carolina. NJ also tends to use LGSes in areas where other states use larger signs, like the signs that list destinations and distances on freeways, so they look kind of odd in mixed case now.

[storm2k]

Various guide signs are becoming mixed case letters, no more ALL CAPS, here: http://goo.gl/maps/xS0Ys but not here: just a 1/4 mile south: http://goo.gl/maps/YGeBq

here: http://goo.gl/maps/Ez1NQ and here: http://goo.gl/maps/WXJWu

I wonder if they will all eventually be replaced?

As Zeffy mentioned, the MUTCD doesn't like all caps signage. I'm pretty sure that the state is replacing signs as they need to be replaced, so it will likely be many years before all of the old all caps signs are gone. Consider how many ancient LGS's survived for so many years and you should get the idea.

[motorway]

Ugh, what a micro-travesty that so many of the wonderful New Jersey quirks that formed the environment of my burgeoning roadgeekery as a child are now being undone! The NJ-style, all-caps LGSs, the loss of the inimitable NJTA signage style...what's next, no more black backplates on BGS-mounted shields? Oh, what a bland world the MUTCD wants us to live in!

Incidentally, I'm glad that people like Steve and co. have photos of the good old days that we can enter into the historical record when we're one day living in a Clearviewed dystopia of a highway system.

[storm2k]

what's next, no more black backplates on BGS-mounted shields? Oh, what a bland world the MUTCD wants us to live in!

Hate to tell you, but that's already happening. New signage that's gone up on Rt 18 (road widening and reconfig at the Turnpike exit) and Rt 22 (reconstruction between Chimney Rock and Foothill Rd in Bridgewater) feature backless shields. It was already discussed in this thread.

[J Route Z]

For this link: http://www.state.nj.us/transportation/capital/tcp15/sec6/njdot5year.pdf  one of the projects says traffic signal replacement program. Does this mean they will be replacing certain traffic lights statewide? Will these be taking place between 2015 and 2025?

[jeffandnicole]

New Jersey apparently has a new toll road:  http://goo.gl/maps/wpJLF

[Zeffy]

New Jersey apparently has a new toll road:  http://goo.gl/maps/wpJLF

Google always marked the Hightstown Bypass as a toll road because it leads directly to the NJ Turnpike. The problem is they should only mark it as such after the SPUI with NJ 33 (because at that point, you just committed to the Turnpike).

[jeffandnicole]

But yet, if you pan westward, the next "Hightstown Bypass" does not have the (Toll Road) next to it.

[storm2k]

For this link: http://www.state.nj.us/transportation/capital/tcp15/sec6/njdot5year.pdf  one of the projects says traffic signal replacement program. Does this mean they will be replacing certain traffic lights statewide? Will these be taking place between 2015 and 2025?

That would make sense since they're responsible for any signals on state or federally signed routes.

[Pete from Boston]

But yet, if you pan westward, the next "Hightstown Bypass" does not have the (Toll Road) next to it.

The attributes for the road are likely by segment, and this first segment probably has some kind of "Toll=Y" that the rest do not. 

[Mr. Matté]

It is a toll road. With a hilariously low speed limit of 50 (45 when it opened in 1999), it's a good source of income for my hometown.


But like the red light camera at 130 and Dutch Neck, it's for our $afety.

[cl94]

But yet, if you pan westward, the next "Hightstown Bypass" does not have the (Toll Road) next to it.

The attributes for the road are likely by segment, and this first segment probably has some kind of "Toll=Y" that the rest do not.

Might say "toll road", but it doesn't have the toll road outline Google introduced recently until south of the interchange, so somebody at Google just effed up with the road name. The system obviously doesn't recognize this segment as a toll road.

It is a toll road. With a hilariously low speed limit of 50 (45 when it opened in 1999), it's a good source of income for my hometown.

But like the red light camera at 130 and Dutch Neck, it's for our $afety.

Lol. That's how I feel about a few roads near me. Cash-strapped Erie County keeps speed limits 10-15 mph lower than they should be and tickets everyone who goes above.

[Roadrunner75]

I never really noticed it before when driving it, but looking at 133 again on GSV the grassed median seems a little narrow for not having crossover protection, especially considering that NJDOT has been busily adding it on freeways.

[J Route Z]

Route 133 should be raised to 55 mph. Route 33 is 55 mph between the NJT and Business Route 33, and it has traffic lights.