Unconventional uses of Clearview

[Pink Jazz]

I was wondering, does anyone know examples of unconventional uses of Clearview?  Examples would be its use on negative contrast signs, or other such applications where it typically isn't used (a Clearview stop sign?).

I know that there is one unconventional use in Queen Creek at the intersection of Ellsworth and Chandler Heights, where the street name blades have a yellow strip below them stating "NOT A THROUGH STREET" in black Clearview text.  Clearview isn't supposed to be used on negative contrast signs.

[jakeroot]

Theoretically, there are thousands of examples of unconventional uses of Clearview. The states with the most examples of unconventional uses (in general) are those states where only state highways and interstates are managed by the state, and everything else is either city or county. The state, as a whole, is more likely to follow the MUTCD since they receive the most federal funding for their road work. As cities receive most of their funding via citizens, federal funding is hardly an issue and they don't really care what the government thinks of their road signs (that's a guess and I'd appreciate if someone could clarify whether or not that's true -- it's just what I've always believed).

In regards to the street blade you posted (GSV link for those unaware), there isn't really a standard street blade design anywhere, so I wouldn't necessarily count this as wrong.

[dfwmapper]

After reading some of the posts on here, you'd think the only conventional usage of Clearview is to mark the gates of hell.

[The Nature Boy]

After reading some of the posts on here, you'd think the only conventional usage of Clearview is to mark the gates of hell.

Nope, no Clearview there.

[vdeane]

The Clearview Expressway doesn't have any either.

[freebrickproductions]

Huntsville has some signs with black Clearview on a yellow background on I-565.

[roadman]

At one time, PennDOT posted a huge bunch of black on yellow safety related signs (like Buckle Up Next Million Miles) in Clearview.  However, since the TTI negative contrast study and subsequent FHWA recommendations, most of these signs have been removed - but not replaced with Highway Gothic versions (thankfully).

[1995hoo]

Huntsville has some signs with black Clearview on a yellow background on I-565.

Heh. The FHWA's Clearview policy page's discussion of what not to do includes some negative-contrast examples from here in Northern Virginia that I pass quite frequently. They also have a couple from Maryland.

Westbound I-66 between Nutley Street and Chain Bridge Road (VA-243 and VA-123, respectively)–I find the use of hyphens instead of dashes in the time and day ranges to be the most egregious failure on this sign:



Southbound I-395 approaching the Duke Street (VA-236) interchange:



Not negative-contrast, but they also cite this sign at the same interchange on southbound I-395 for the fraction format (signs on both sides of that road have this style of fraction) and the inadequate margin space:

[Brandon]

Note the purple section and the exit only tab.



Center-mounted clearview exit tab.



Parking garage crossing signage - Normal.

[roadfro]

Parking garage crossing signage - Normal.

Note also the outdated pedestrian crossing symbol sign which still shows the crosswalk lines.

[PHLBOS]

At one time, PennDOT posted a huge bunch of black on yellow safety related signs (like Buckle Up Next Million Miles) in Clearview.  However, since the TTI negative contrast study and subsequent FHWA recommendations, most of these signs have been removed - but not replaced with Highway Gothic versions (thankfully).

Many of those signs still exist in southern & southeastern PA; Route 41 in Chester & Lancaster Counties come to mind.

[jakeroot]

Note the purple section and the exit only tab.

Center-mounted clearview exit tab.

Parking garage crossing signage - Normal.

From the perspective of a Washingtonian, IDOT seems to be the worst abuser of Clearview in the country, surpassing PennDOT and Texas. I wouldn't have said that until just a few hours ago while browsing the Chicago area's BGSs.

[lordsutch]

Note the purple section and the exit only tab.

White on purple is a positive contrast application, and thus permitted by the interim approval (even though purple is not listed as an acceptable color in the FAQ, since purple background was approved after the IA).

[1995hoo]

Note the purple section and the exit only tab.

White on purple is a positive contrast application, and thus permitted by the interim approval (even though purple is not listed as an acceptable color in the FAQ, since purple background was approved after the IA).

I believe that even though the color scheme is OK, the FHWA opposes the use of Clearview for all-caps text, such as the "I-PASS ONLY" message on that sign.

[SignGeek101]

Negative Contrast Clearview is used all over my city.

Speed Limit Signs (About 95% of the speed limit signs are clearview).


This one is brand new (wasn't there in June).


City Route Shield and non - FHWA direction sign (Clearview accounts for about 50% of the shields now).


Street Blade (mostly FHWA Series B,C for now)


BGS - notice the clearview numerals (about 5 years old)


I now there are Clearview stop signs in BC. Don't have a picture.

[Henry]

The Clearview Expressway doesn't have any either.

That seems a bit odd, doesn't it?

[spooky]

The Clearview Expressway doesn't have any either.

On I-10, some of the signs for the Clearview Parkway are in Clearview, some are in Highway Gothic.

[Henry]

The Clearview Expressway doesn't have any either.

On I-10, some of the signs for the Clearview Parkway are in Clearview, some are in Highway Gothic.

Does anyone have photos of those Clearview font Clearview Parkway signs?

EDIT: Just found one photo of that sign...

[Brandon]

Note the purple section and the exit only tab.

Center-mounted clearview exit tab.

Parking garage crossing signage - Normal.

From the perspective of a Washingtonian, IDOT seems to be the worst abuser of Clearview in the country, surpassing PennDOT and Texas. I wouldn't have said that until just a few hours ago while browsing the Chicago area's BGSs.

If you think that's bad, I've got lots more photographs of Chicagoland Clearview BGSs from IDOT and ISTHA.

I could make more than a few of you green with illness from them.

[Scott5114]

Most every Clearview sign in Oklahoma has a Clearview exit tab or Exit Only panel.

[jakeroot]

Note the purple section and the exit only tab.

Center-mounted clearview exit tab.

Parking garage crossing signage - Normal.

From the perspective of a Washingtonian, IDOT seems to be the worst abuser of Clearview in the country, surpassing PennDOT and Texas. I wouldn't have said that until just a few hours ago while browsing the Chicago area's BGSs.

If you think that's bad, I've got lots more photographs of Chicagoland Clearview BGSs from IDOT and ISTHA.

I could make more than a few of you green with illness from them.

Do share (in the gallery section, of course).

[cl94]

If you want black on yellow or white, come to New York and see what NYSTA has installed around Buffalo lately. Every exit only tab is Clearview. The assemblies for I-290 on I-90 east have "last exit before toll" in black on white Clearview. I shudder every time I pass them.

[Zeffy]

If you want black on yellow or white, come to New York and see what NYSTA has installed around Buffalo lately. Every exit only tab is Clearview. The assemblies for I-290 on I-90 east have "last exit before toll" in black on white Clearview. I shudder every time I pass them.

The Thruway should...just not use Clearview? FHWA should completely stop this madness by pulling the plug on Clearview entirely and forcing all new installations to use the FHWA series. Heck, do more field testing with E(hm) since it sure would be the crap out of the Clearview abominations that we tend to see!

[jakeroot]

If you want black on yellow or white, come to New York and see what NYSTA has installed around Buffalo lately. Every exit only tab is Clearview. The assemblies for I-290 on I-90 east have "last exit before toll" in black on white Clearview. I shudder every time I pass them.

The Thruway should...just not use Clearview? FHWA should completely stop this madness by pulling the plug on Clearview entirely and forcing all new installations to use the FHWA series. Heck, do more field testing with E(hm) since it sure would be the crap out of the Clearview abominations that we tend to see!

Sorry Zeffy, you kind of walked right into this:

[jakeroot]

Bumping an old thread because I thought this sign was pretty interesting. Unconventional for British Columbia? Definitely no. But as a whole, certainly using Clearview on the Tsunami Evac Route sign is uncommon:



Photo by Clayton Perry Photoworks on Flickr.