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[1995hoo]

Last night on the way downtown for the Caps game I heard on the radio that there had been a serious crash in the general-purpose lanes between Route 29 and Gallows Road that had spilled over into the right lane of the Express Lanes. Anyone know any details? In particular, I'm curious to know what, if any effect, it had on the toll rates.

Why not look up historical toll rates for the approximate time?

D'oh. Good point. Not sure why I didn't think of that. 

[cpzilliacus]

Why not look up historical toll rates for the approximate time?

Was not aware of that capability.  Thanks for pointing it out!

495 Express Lanes southbound entering south of Va. 193 yesterday at 1800 showed $0.45 to Jones Branch; $2.70 to I-66; and $7.40 to I-395/I-95.

At 1900, the tolls were $0.35 to Jones Branch; $1.20 to I-66; and $3.95 to I-395/I-95.


However, the user interface is pretty clunky.

[cpzilliacus]

WTOP Radio: Alexandria group wants I-95 ramp delayed

ALEXANDRIA, Va. - Virginia Transportation Secretary Sean Connaughton met with a group calling for a delay to a ramp that will end the Interstate 95 HOT Lanes in Alexandria.

The Concerned Residents of Landmark met with Connaughton, Alexandria Mayor Bill Euille and Fairfax County Board of Supervisors Chair Sharon Bulova on Friday about the terminus ramp, which will be located just north of Edsall Road at Turkeycock Run.

The ramp will end the HOT Lanes, meaning any vehicles with less than three passengers would have to exit during rush hours.

"VDOT did what they are supposed to do and they ran the project by the Federal Highway Administration," says Connaughton. "The issue really is how to balance out the traffic, if there's a way to do it."

The group hired Maureen Barrett, an environmental engineer, to study the toxin levels that the ramp would produce. She found that nitrogen dioxide and PM2.5, or fine particulate matter, would be above acceptable levels on the ramp, partially due to the expected traffic. Those toxins could result in respiratory issues and increased hospitalization.

[1995hoo]

It's a bit late to be objecting to it when construction is as far along as it is. I understand their displeasure, but the fight should have occurred a lot sooner if they were serious. The City comes across as a bunch of BANANAs (Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anybody).

[mtantillo]

It's a bit late to be objecting to it when construction is as far along as it is. I understand their displeasure, but the fight should have occurred a lot sooner if they were serious. The City comes across as a bunch of BANANAs (Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anybody).

Well, I can sort of see their point.  When they did the original studies, that ramp was not an endpoint ramp, now it is. 

But if FHWA approved....

[oscar]

Concerned Residents of Landmark really should be complaining to Arlington County, whose lawsuit led to the HOT lanes ending in Alexandria.  Or better still, they should have spoken up during the County's lawsuit, to try to head off the problem they are now complaining about. 

Inconveniently, though, IIRC at least one of CRL's lawyers also represented Arlington County in its lawsuit against VDOT, so we should not expect any CRL lawsuit to target Arlington County.

[cpzilliacus]

Concerned Residents of Landmark really should be complaining to Arlington County, whose lawsuit led to the HOT lanes ending in Alexandria.  Or better still, they should have spoken up during the County's lawsuit, to try to head off the problem they are now complaining about.

Yes, yes, a thousand times yes! 

Inconveniently, though, IIRC at least one of CRL's lawyers also represented Arlington County in its lawsuit against VDOT, so we should not expect any CRL lawsuit to target Arlington County.

That is correct.  Though (IMO) I never thought that Arlington County's arguments would have had much merit in a trial before the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Virginia (anti-highway lawsuits in federal courts in the 4th Circuit states in recent years have not usually had much success).  The only one that met with any sympathy (that I am aware of) was against the Monroeville (N.C.) Bypass, where a 4th Circuit panel ordered a remand for reasons related to air quality.

The people opposed to this project are attempting to raise PM 2.5 as an issue, though I don't see that working, since I-395 is not a favored "through" route for trucking.

[cpzilliacus]

It's a bit late to be objecting to it when construction is as far along as it is. I understand their displeasure, but the fight should have occurred a lot sooner if they were serious. The City comes across as a bunch of BANANAs (Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anybody).

Agreed. Though Alexandria did finally drop its lawsuit against the reconstructed Wilson Bridge (leaving the Sierra Club to go it alone - their victory in the U.S. District Court (in D.C.) was reversed by the Circuit Court in December 1999, which allowed construction to get started after about 10 years of planning).

And the reconstruction of U.S. 1 to straighten it out at Monroe Avenue where it crosses the former RF&P Railroad tracks has turned out to be a major improvement.

[cpzilliacus]

TOLLROADSnews: How Fluor-Lane widened the 495 Capital Beltway from 8 to 12 lanes INTERVIEW

Maryland officials said recently that any improvements to the Capital Beltway would be nearly impossible given the traffic volumes (over 220,000 vehicles/day) and the need to maintain traffic through the works.  Well how did Virginia do it? They've just rebuilt ten interchanges, repaved, and widened from 8 to 12 lanes on 14 miles of the busiest portion of the Beltway between the I-95 Springfield Interchange and through Tysons Corner and the Dulles Toll Road.

The work was done by a Fluor-Lane joint venture under a $1.93b design-build contract with Capital Beltway Express LLC, the Transurban-led concessionaire that put up $1.52b. VDOT put up $0.41b. Fluor has a 10% stake in the express toll lanes concession.

We recently talked to Bob Portley, the Fluor-Lane joint venture's deputy project director for field operations in charge of the nearly five years of Beltway work.  (With completion of the Beltway work he has returned to Lane Construction where he is District Manager working out of Chantilly Virginia.)

[1995hoo]

I won't include a link to this first item because of reports of malware issues affecting Internet Explorer users who visit their website: WTOP reports Transurban requested that VDOT raise the speed limit in the 495 Express Lanes to 65 mph and VDOT is considering the request. Sounds like a good move to me, although I'd prefer 70 mph (which state law allows). No word on when they might decide. I can't really blame them for starting with a lower limit and then considering an increase instead of starting with a higher one and then lowering it, especially when the barrier on the right side of the lanes (plastic bollards) is quite different (and potentially more distracting at night due to the reflective tape on the bollards) than others we've seen in the DC area over the years.

This second item was quite a surprise to me: A bill was introduced this year to allow an 80-mph speed limit on toll roads in Virginia, including HO/T lanes, and the bill would also have eliminated the "or in excess of 80 mph" part of the reckless driving law. Not surprisingly, it was left in committee. I don't see Virginia allowing any 80-mph speed limits any time soon, but I think the "or in excess of 80 mph" provision ought to be scrapped because I think it's asinine to prosecute someone going 81 mph in a 70-mph zone for reckless driving based solely on speed.

[cpzilliacus]

I won't include a link to this first item because of reports of malware issues affecting Internet Explorer users who visit their website: WTOP reports Transurban requested that VDOT raise the speed limit in the 495 Express Lanes to 65 mph and VDOT is considering the request. Sounds like a good move to me, although I'd prefer 70 mph (which state law allows). No word on when they might decide. I can't really blame them for starting with a lower limit and then considering an increase instead of starting with a higher one and then lowering it, especially when the barrier on the right side of the lanes (plastic bollards) is quite different (and potentially more distracting at night due to the reflective tape on the bollards) than others we've seen in the DC area over the years.

65 or 70 would be fine in those lanes.

Though I could see some of the usual-suspect groups raising objections (probably related to air quality).

This second item was quite a surprise to me: A bill was introduced this year to allow an 80-mph speed limit on toll roads in Virginia, including HO/T lanes, and the bill would also have eliminated the "or in excess of 80 mph" part of the reckless driving law. Not surprisingly, it was left in committee. I don't see Virginia allowing any 80-mph speed limits any time soon, but I think the "or in excess of 80 mph" provision ought to be scrapped because I think it's asinine to prosecute someone going 81 mph in a 70-mph zone for reckless driving based solely on speed.

I believe I have driven all toll roads and toll crossings in the Commonwealth, except the Gilmerton  Bridge, which is not a freeway-class road anyway.

Not sure that any of them ought to have a posted speed limit that high.  Especially not the Dulles Greenway, which has curves that are too sharp for most people to handle safely on a consistent bases when going that fast.

The road that could be posted with a limit that high is I-295, especially between I-64 (on the east side of Richmond, near Sandston) and I-95 just south of Petersburg in Prince George County.  Added bonus - an 80 MPH posted limit  might put an end to the Hopewell speed trap operation.

EDIT:  Made references to the I-64 and I-95 interchanges with  I-295 specific.

[mtantillo]

The road that could be posted with a limit that high is I-295, especially between I-64 and I-95.  Added bonus - an 80 MPH posted limit  might put an end to the Hopewell speed trap operation.

Isn't all of I-295 between I-64 and I-95?

[cpzilliacus]

The road that could be posted with a limit that high is I-295, especially between I-64 and I-95.  Added bonus - an 80 MPH posted limit  might put an end to the Hopewell speed trap operation.

Isn't all of I-295 between I-64 and I-95?

Yes, of course it is. I should have been more specific. 

And I will be in just a moment thanks to the "modify" feature.

[maplestar]

I believe I have driven all toll roads and toll crossings in the Commonwealth, except the Gilmerton  Bridge, which is not a freeway-class road anyway.

Not sure that any of them ought to have a posted speed limit that high.  Especially not the Dulles Greenway, which has curves that are too sharp for most people to handle safely on a consistent bases when going that fast.

Perhaps you mean the Jordan Bridge instead of the Gilmerton? The Gilmerton is a non-tolled bridge on US 13, while the South Norfolk Jordan Bridge is a toll bridge on VA 337 that crosses the Elizabeth River further north.

[cpzilliacus]

I believe I have driven all toll roads and toll crossings in the Commonwealth, except the Gilmerton  Bridge, which is not a freeway-class road anyway.

Not sure that any of them ought to have a posted speed limit that high.  Especially not the Dulles Greenway, which has curves that are too sharp for most people to handle safely on a consistent bases when going that fast.

Perhaps you mean the Jordan Bridge instead of the Gilmerton? The Gilmerton is a non-tolled bridge on US 13, while the South Norfolk Jordan Bridge is a toll bridge on VA 337 that crosses the Elizabeth River further north.

Yes, I did.  Been a lot  of years since I visited Hampton Roads.

The South Norfolk Jordan is the one I was  thinking about.

[cpzilliacus]

[This has specific references to the HOV/Toll lanes in Northern Virginia]

TOLLROADSnews: Toll express lanes can get investment grade ratings but it will be tough - Moody's

Negative on 495ELs

The Moody's report stresses the VA495ELs as "well below" the first year's target:

"We believe that the underperformance of the HOT lanes reflects soft economic conditions in the service area, which results in motorists being unwilling to pay a toll for time savings. The original traffic study was done before 2008, and projections may not be achievable given that they did not consider the impact of the economic recession.

[1995hoo]

I agree with the statement by Fluor/Transurban in that article that the "pipe" design was undesirable on the Beltway because the majority of the traffic on that side of the Beltway is not thru traffic from Springfield all the way to the Legion Bridge (or vice versa).