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[Gridlock]

Work has begun on widening I-44 between Riverside and Yale.

Does anybody know when work will begin on Yale to Sheridan segment?  Strange, this stretch (Yale to BA) has highest traffic counts, yet its the absolutely last section in the city to be widened.

[Scott5114]

All I can say is thank goodness.

[Chris]

Is Tulsa congested during rushhour? It seems to have quite an extensive freeway/tollway network.

[Scott5114]

I-44 in Tulsa is a pain at any time of day! Only two narrow lanes with lots of curves spells lots of congestion and hair-raising moments... it's a very outdated freeway. If I could scrounge up enough cash to bypass Tulsa via the Creek Turnpike, I'd always do it!

[SSOWorld]

Good thing I didn't drive it yet... I mainly used I-244 while I was in Tulsa in 2002. (of course that means I still have some clinching to do. )

[Gridlock]

IMO, Tulsa is not very congested during rush hours compared to most cities.  I-44 has 2 substandard 4 lane segments (original construction from the 1950's) which are congested and where chuncks of concrete from the bridges/overpasses periodically fall on the streets below (sometimes a whole forms a hole all the way thru the bridge deck!).  These are Riverside to OK 51 (reconstruction now underway) and I-244 merge to US 412/OK66 interchange in Catoosa area which is also scheduled for widening soon.  The Catoosa segment has gotten much more congested recently due to nearby casino which is expanding and being rebranded into a Hard Rock Casino/hotel/restaurant/resort.

OK 51 and US 169 are probably the busiest commuter routes but move well except at substandard cloverleaf interchanges (OK51/I-44 and OK51/US169) where backups occur every rush hour.  OK 51 has recently been expanded to 8 lanes well out into Broken Arrow.  US 169 is 6 lane from I-244 south to Creek Turnpike.

[mightyace]

I was looking at the aerial view on Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=tulsa,+ok&sll=46.187437,-123.137512&sspn=1.2968,2.82074&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=36.173599,-95.737181&spn=0.023626,0.044074&z=15&layer=c&cbll=36.177105,-95.739985&panoid=iRgXrHQV0VnnVZQG183ykw&cbp=12,59.4068584102908,,0,3.24732229795521) and saw an apparently abandoned stretch of highway between the Will Rogers Turnpike and Historic Route 66.

Is this an earlier alignment of the Will Rogers, say before the Creek Turnpike was built?

[okroads]

I was looking at the aerial view on Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=tulsa,+ok&sll=46.187437,-123.137512&sspn=1.2968,2.82074&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=36.173599,-95.737181&spn=0.023626,0.044074&z=15&layer=c&cbll=36.177105,-95.739985&panoid=iRgXrHQV0VnnVZQG183ykw&cbp=12,59.4068584102908,,0,3.24732229795521) and saw an apparently abandoned stretch of highway between the Will Rogers Turnpike and Historic Route 66.

Is this an earlier alignment of the Will Rogers, say before the Creek Turnpike was built?

That is exactly what it is. The Creek Turnpike in that section was finished around 2002, and I-44 was rerouted along U.S. 412 for an extra mile east to the Creek.

[mightyace]

That is exactly what it is. The Creek Turnpike in that section was finished around 2002, and I-44 was rerouted along U.S. 412 for an extra mile east to the Creek.

Do you think they'll ever release the ROW as its no longer in use?

[okroads]

That is exactly what it is. The Creek Turnpike in that section was finished around 2002, and I-44 was rerouted along U.S. 412 for an extra mile east to the Creek.

Do you think they'll ever release the ROW as its no longer in use?

Considering that we are talking about Oklahoma, probably not.  I don't know for sure, though.

[Scott5114]

Believe it or not, that section of bypassed freeway still has BGSes on it! (I saw some pictures of it on an urban exploration site.) I kinda want to explore it next time I'm around Tulsa...

It was also used as a prop in a Senator's reelection ads. The message basically was "Our roads suck! Vote for me, I'll fix them!" Yeah, of course that road sucks; it's been closed to traffic since 2002...