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Re: Best/Fastest Routes or Cheats around tolls...
« Reply #75 on: October 11, 2011, 08:14:05 PM »

Also, living in the Bronx as I now do, I shunpike the Henry Hudson Bridge all the time (via Broadway Bridge, University Heights Bridge or any of the downstream Harlem River Bridges depending on destination), though the savings is rarely in travel time.

I also regularly shunpike the Bronx-Queens crossing by using Harlem River/FDR Drive to one of the NYCDOT crossings of the East River. Sigalert helps.

Problem with using the Broadway Bridge is you will sit in plenty of slow moving traffic getting to and from it. Third/Willis Avenue Bridges are usually the best way between the Bronx and Manhattan - this is in fact so ridiculously easy to do that I'd say using the Triboro for this purpose qualifies as another "tourist exit".

Queensboro Bridge to FDR to Willis Av Bridge is easy and simple coming from Astoria or LIC but getting between anywhere further east and the Bronx it's not worth it.

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Re: Best/Fastest Routes or Cheats around tolls...
« Reply #76 on: October 11, 2011, 09:23:13 PM »

Pittsburgh to NYC:
US 22 EB/I-99 NB/I-80 EB. With the recent upgrades of US 22, this route is at least as fast as the Turnpike and, what, 24 bucks cheaper??

Yes, US-22 has had a lot of upgrades, but you do have to suffer several traffic lights just outside of Monroeville.

I would suggest PA-28 NB > US-422 EB > US-219 SB > US-22 EB > I-99 NB > I-80 EB.

The main reason I'm suggesting that is you have one really wicked hill just after US-119 NB leaves US-22.  If your car isn't ready for it, you could be in for a world of hurt as the old road isn't there anymore because the new one was mostly built on top of it on a straighter alignment except near the top.  Plus there are less lights between Pittsburgh and I-99 on my suggested route and on a recent run between Pgh and I-99, seemed to travel it faster than your route.  And if your travels are going to be during Rush Hour in the Pittsburgh area, you can almost forget US-22 East of Monroeville as it can be a sea of red lights.

Well, yes there are a lot of upgrades and up-grades east of Monroeville, and all of the lights seem to be located at up-grades heading eastbound, so you do a lot of waiting for slower vehicles to accelerate. But, it is far better than it once was, even fairly recently, such that it becomes a viable shunpike. And coming westbound, if you hit US 22 in the evening you're even better off.

I never used any option involving PA 28 because it was a traffic and construction nightmare during the time I lived there (and certainly still is), and it was a pretty significant crosstown journey from my neighborhood to the more free-flowing stretches. But depending where you live, it could also be useful.

Well, I'm from the North Hills, hence why I suggested PA-28 since it is closer than US-22.

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Re: Best/Fastest Routes or Cheats around tolls...
« Reply #77 on: October 11, 2011, 11:04:53 PM »

Also, living in the Bronx as I now do, I shunpike the Henry Hudson Bridge all the time (via Broadway Bridge, University Heights Bridge or any of the downstream Harlem River Bridges depending on destination), though the savings is rarely in travel time.

I also regularly shunpike the Bronx-Queens crossing by using Harlem River/FDR Drive to one of the NYCDOT crossings of the East River. Sigalert helps.

Problem with using the Broadway Bridge is you will sit in plenty of slow moving traffic getting to and from it. Third/Willis Avenue Bridges are usually the best way between the Bronx and Manhattan - this is in fact so ridiculously easy to do that I'd say using the Triboro for this purpose qualifies as another "tourist exit".

Agreed, in some cases, except for two things:

1) If you're headed to the GW Bridge, then 3rd/Willis Ave. are too far south to be of help (and the GW Bridge is toll free in this direction).

2) If you are headed south of the GW Bridge, the current construction project at the I-87/I-95 interchange may well make it worth bypassing via Harlem River Drive...via the Broadway or Univ. Heights Bridges. Then again, you've got to weigh the construction at HRD/Triborough Bridge, which also involves the Willis Ave. Bridge.

There is indeed a lot of congestion at both the Broadway and Univ. Heights Bridges, so depending on your origin and destination, and the time of day, it can be very much an "on the fly" decision.

Queensboro Bridge to FDR to Willis Av Bridge is easy and simple coming from Astoria or LIC but getting between anywhere further east and the Bronx it's not worth it.


Yup, I've done that for just that destination (needed a haircut from a barber in Astoria) and it worked well. I fully realize, however, that it could very well not have.

Post Merge: October 13, 2011, 01:56:33 AM
Well, I'm from the North Hills, hence why I suggested PA-28 since it is closer than US-22.

Yup, that would definitely make the difference. Pittsburgh, perhaps more than most other cities, makes a very large difference according to your origin and destination, as far as which route you'll take in and out of town.
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Re: Best/Fastest Routes or Cheats around tolls...
« Reply #78 on: October 12, 2011, 07:52:17 PM »

If you are headed south of the GW Bridge, the current construction project at the I-87/I-95 interchange may well make it worth bypassing via Harlem River Drive...via the Broadway or Univ. Heights Bridges. Then again, you've got to weigh the construction at HRD/Triborough Bridge, which also involves the Willis Ave. Bridge.

Bruckner.

But I'm coming from Connecticut. I suppose that doesn't work too well if you're already over to the west.
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Re: Best/Fastest Routes or Cheats around tolls...
« Reply #79 on: October 13, 2011, 08:55:59 AM »

Surprised no one's mentioned DE 2/4/896 around the toll entering/leaving DE on I-95...given how badly traffic backs up here, using those roads to dodge the toll is much faster than waiting it out...
Absolutely.  Here are some more MD toll related ones:
NB Susquehanna - I tend to leave Baltimore on 1, but 95-24-1 can work.  Follow 273 back into DE and either go straight to 95 or cut down 896.  Kills two tolls with one stone.
Baltimore - I only know this one SB, but I imagine it's similar NB - 95S to 895S, first exit to Moravia Rd.  Make a left, take 40 West through Baltimore, make another left onto 395 or 295 and continue south.


No offense, but I did that back in 1998 (the Tydings Bridge bypass) and that was the most circuitous route I have ever seen.  The toll on the bridge at the time was only $4 Northbound.

That's because all the locals know that the "real" shunpike of the Tydings Bridge from the southside of Harford County is the US 40 Hatem Bridge! Unfortunately, it may not last much longer as we know it. Ever since the transportation blogger for the Sun paper revealed its existence, the state has been looking for ways to either increase the prices of the annual bridge-crossing stickers tremendously or eliminate them altogether. (Which is why I'm partially hesistant to talk about it myself)

Since I live on the northern side of Harford County, I always take US 1 over the Conowingo Dam as a default. It would seem silly to do the 95-24-1 route only to head back to DE. That route is a great shunpike, though, if you are heading for NE or SEPA or any points north.

Also, there's a route missing before DE 2/4/896: MD 279. This is the critical exit in MD right before the DE line that takes one from (and southbound, back to) I-95.
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Re: Best/Fastest Routes or Cheats around tolls...
« Reply #80 on: October 16, 2011, 12:22:28 PM »

I guess it all depends on timing. When I went to Fort Wayne back in June, I hit almost all of the red lights.

Stoplights aside, this is also a good toll-free alternative from Chicago to NYC (via 71N, 76E, and 80E).
I have used this route as well to get to NYC and New London CT via I-81N-84E-CT 11/2
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Re: Best/Fastest Routes or Cheats around tolls...
« Reply #81 on: October 17, 2011, 03:56:31 PM »

Hood River Bridge or Bridge of the Gods: Good luck.
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Re: Best/Fastest Routes or Cheats around tolls...
« Reply #82 on: November 24, 2011, 09:45:52 AM »

The most convenient shunpike I have encountered is Interstate 95 and the Florida's Turnpike between the Golden Glades interchange and Fort Pierce.  Depending on traffic, and I live to avoid south Florida traffic, I will actually prefer the Turnpike over Interstate 95.

How about US 27?  It is slightly longer, but mostly 65 mph.  Plenty of towns with motels, gas, and food.  It is used by truckers to avoid the Turnpike tolls.  Only between Lake Wales and Clermont is troublesome with the development boom there causing many traffic signals and local traffic there.

Make sure that you have plenty of gas as from Griffin Road to South Bay there are NO FUEL stops for almost 50 miles!
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Re: Best/Fastest Routes or Cheats around tolls...
« Reply #83 on: November 24, 2011, 03:28:36 PM »

Very true and a well-used route by the trucking industry.  Nothing but large power lines, sawgrass, cat tails and sugar.  BIG lake in the middle. :-D
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Re: Best/Fastest Routes or Cheats around tolls...
« Reply #84 on: November 28, 2011, 09:51:24 AM »

If you are going between edison NJ and Trenton, taking US-130 is a viable option at night, I was on it at midnight, and it was about as fast as taking the turnpike up there.

In southern NJ, depending on time of year of course, US30/US322 can be a viable alternative to the atlantic city expressway, there are lights but it does not cost anything to take and saves you 3.75 in tolls.

NJ55 can save you money if you are coming from camden, to head down to cape may, just be aware NJ47 can be nasty in the summer.

In PA if you are heading west from philly to toledo ohio for example, I used 476 to head over to I80, saving a good bit in tolls, yes you can take PA611 up there too, but the speed on 476 makes up for it
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Re: Best/Fastest Routes or Cheats around tolls...
« Reply #85 on: November 28, 2011, 03:26:00 PM »

If you are going between edison NJ and Trenton, taking US-130 is a viable option at night, I was on it at midnight, and it was about as fast as taking the turnpike up there.

In southern NJ, depending on time of year of course, US30/US322 can be a viable alternative to the atlantic city expressway, there are lights but it does not cost anything to take and saves you 3.75 in tolls.

NJ55 can save you money if you are coming from camden, to head down to cape may, just be aware NJ47 can be nasty in the summer.

In PA if you are heading west from philly to toledo ohio for example, I used 476 to head over to I80, saving a good bit in tolls, yes you can take PA611 up there too, but the speed on 476 makes up for it


Due to my dislike for the NJTpke in general, I'd routinely use US-130 to get to I-295 if I was headed towards the Del. Mem. Bridge. 
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Re: Best/Fastest Routes or Cheats around tolls...
« Reply #86 on: November 29, 2011, 11:58:01 AM »

NJTP and 295 both have interchanges at Bordentown. Not too long of a Breezewood between`em.
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Re: Best/Fastest Routes or Cheats around tolls...
« Reply #87 on: November 29, 2011, 01:21:18 PM »

NJTP and 295 both have interchanges at Bordentown. Not too long of a Breezewood between`em.

Once I-195 was connected to I-295, it was only about 8 minutes or so to reach the Bordentown area.  So, I'd just jump on I-195 to get to I-295.
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