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[roadman65]

NY 42 is in two segments.

So is NY 24.

Ironic considering there the reciprical of each other.

[roadman65]

I didn't know we had fractional US routes!

I believe that NM signs these like this near Raton on I-25 and the Egg Harbor Circle in Egg Harbor New Jersey uses them to direct motorists from ACY to US 40 and 322.

[NE2]

NY 42 is in two segments.

So is NY 24.

Ironic considering there the reciprical of each other.

Nope.

[roadman65]

NY 42 is in two segments.

So is NY 24.

Ironic considering there the reciprical of each other.

Nope.

Well, according to Wykepedia, NY 42 was once one route.  We both know that the LIE was originally NY 24 to explain the missing segments there along with some other changes. 

[NE2]

It's not ironic and they're not recipricals or reciprocals.

[njroadhorse]

It's not ironic and they're not recipricals or reciprocals.

No need to completely shoot roadman down. What he means is that it's a funny coincidence that NY 24 and NY 42 are both in segments and their numbers are reverse of each other.

[bassoon1986]

I didn't know we had fractional US routes!

Yeah it's Shreveport, LA's "almost" version of US 1   

[Quillz]

I may have brought up CA-164 earlier. If not, it's one of the odder routes in the state. It's completely unsigned, and its entire alignment is wholly within CA-19. Which means if it was signed, it would only be so via a concurrency with CA-19 that follows the exact same path.

On a similar note are CA-77, CA-112 and CA-260. None are signed and also part of the longer (signed) CA-61. However, unlike CA-164, it's because most of those routes were never completed. CA-77 was intended to have a longer and distinct alignment from CA-61.

[NE2]

SR 164 is like the others, in that its south end was never built.

[2Co5_14]

Here are more California highways that don't terminate at other state highways:

Most of CA-146 is winding and only 1 to 1½ lanes wide, and it is split in half by the mountains in Pinnacles National Monument.  I’ve had a chance to hike the trails between the two highway ends - one of them passes through caves that require a flashlight.

CA-162 has a 50 mile gap, with a dirt road connecting the 2 ends over Mendocino pass. In addition, the eastern end of the state highway stops abruptly in Brush Creek (the portion of the road eastward from here to Quincy used to be a state highway long ago).

CA-59 ends in Snelling and changes its designation to County Route J59.  Tuolomne County wants J59 to be redesignated as a state highway up to CA-108/120, since it was recently improved.

CA-203 ends at Minaret Summit (it was originally proposed to extend westward through the Sierra Nevada mountains to provide access between the Central Valley and Mammoth Lakes).

CA-131 ends in Tiburon after only 4 miles.
CA-169 ends at the Yurok Indian Reservation.
CA-180 dead-ends inside Kings Canyon National Park.
CA-191 ends in Paradise.
CA-198 ends at the border of Sequoia National Park.
CA-202 ends at the California Correctional Institution at Tehachapi. 
CA-211 ends in Ferndale (it was originally proposed to extend down the coast to CA-1).
CA-270 end just before Bodie State Historic Park (the road continues for 3 miles unpaved).

[TheStranger]

I may have brought up CA-164 earlier. If not, it's one of the odder routes in the state. It's completely unsigned, and its entire alignment is wholly within CA-19. Which means if it was signed, it would only be so via a concurrency with CA-19 that follows the exact same path.

On a similar note are CA-77, CA-112 and CA-260. None are signed and also part of the longer (signed) CA-61. However, unlike CA-164, it's because most of those routes were never completed. CA-77 was intended to have a longer and distinct alignment from CA-61.

61 also was supposed to be longer on the south end (to Route 84) and north end (either to the Cypress Freeway near the MacArthur Maze, or to today's 580 in Richmond) but those portions weren't built - which is how 260 and 112 ended up being part of signed 61.

There's even an EAST 61 sign there on 112 too!

SR 164 is like the others, in that its south end was never built.

I think the idea with the 164 designation was...the section that is 19 + the unbuilt short connector to I-605 would have been one freeway corridor, much as Doyle Drive in SF and Lombard Street were slated to be part of the I-480 routing (but never were signed as such). 

Honestly the designation should just be reverted officially to 19, as it has been signed that way since 1934 with no change whatsoever.

CA-169 ends at the Yurok Indian Reservation.

Originally went further south to Route 96 until a 1964 flood.

[surferdude]

IN PA in the western part there is PA 65 it starts southern end on the North Shore of Pittsburgh and the nothern end at Business 422 in New Castle, PA.  In and around Ellwood City, New Castle, Zelienople, Beaver Falls, there are connecting Routes of PA
PA 288 (Ellwood City to Zelienople)
PA 488 (Energy to Volant)
PA 388 (Ellwood to Zelienople)
PA 588 (Ellwood to Beaver Falls)

There is a PA 88 but it is south of Pittsburgh does not have connecting routes.

[dave19]

Surferdude, that is because PA 88 used to extend north of Pittsburgh before the US Route system came about. Now that section is US 19.

[Scott5114]

OK 63A is a Y shaped route with three termini.

OK 77S is a partial loop around a lake, with branches extending off the main loop to connect with other nearby highways, giving it four termini.

OK 251A exists, with no OK 251 ever existing anywhere in the state.

[PAHighways]

IN PA in the western part there is PA 65 it starts southern end on the North Shore of Pittsburgh and the nothern end at Business 422 in New Castle, PA.  In and around Ellwood City, New Castle, Zelienople, Beaver Falls, there are connecting Routes of PA
PA 288 (Ellwood City to Zelienople)
PA 488 (Energy to Volant)
PA 388 (Ellwood to Zelienople)
PA 588 (Ellwood to Beaver Falls)

There is a PA 88 but it is south of Pittsburgh does not have connecting routes.

PA 88 was signed all of the way to New Castle until 1961 on what is currently PA 65.

[US71]

Not necessarily the same, but Missouri has had 2 Highway 88's:

The original ran from the AR-MO State Line to Lanagan (now Business US 71, Jesse James Rd in Pineville, and Route EE)

A later segment ran along Scenic Ave (and I think part of Chestnut Expressway) in Springfield.

[Mdcastle]

The post is correct that a MN 74 is the last state road with a gravel section. The other unpaved roads in recent memory have been paved (parts of MN 1, MN 65, and MN 330) have been paved, or removed from the system (MN 249). I heard that MN 74 is still gravel because being in a deep valley it's vulnerable to flood damage which is easier to repair on a gravel road, but it also has very low traffic counts.

MN 101 exists in three seperate sections due to the difficulty in negotiating turnback agreements with multiple jurisdictions.

MN 197 has a bizarre number. It is not the legislatively assigned number and is much higher than the other arbitrarily posted numbers, which end in the mid 100s. I asked Mn/DOT about it who asked some of there old time engineers and didn't come up with a good answer.

BUS MN 371 is the only business route that's a trunk highway.

There are a number of routes in the high 200s, low 300s that connect(ed) a trunk highway to a state institution, usually only a few blocks long. (These are slowly being removed from the system). Some oddities are a route that had two branches, routes with no signs, routes that the public is not allowed to drive on, and routes that no longer connect to any other trunk highways.

For a short time in the early 90s US 52 had a gap in it due to the removal of a portion of University and 4th from the trunk highway system. US 52 has no signs between Minneapolis and Jamestown, ND, US 12 has no signs between Minnetonka and Minneapolis where they're concurrent with interstates.

[Rick1962]

OK 251A exists, with no OK 251 ever existing anywhere in the state.

Check this link, there was once an OK 251D between Wagoner and Chouteau:

http://msrmaps.com/image.aspx?T=2&S=12&Z=15&X=360&Y=4984&W=3&qs=%7cokay%7cok%7c

My suspicion is that the OK 251 route numbers were intended to be temporary assignments to allow for state construction funding, and 251A was useful enough to keep on the state highway system. Why it was never renumbered into something that made sense is another matter.

[agentsteel53]

CA-168 also has two segments.  the connector across the Sierras is unbuilt. 

710 has not one, not two, but six termini. 

there is a north segment in Pasadena (state route 710 for inventory purposes, but not signed anywhere, except for a lone I-710 shield in the HOV lane on 210 westbound that is more accident than anything else - and on call boxes and bridge markers, one of which still bears the old designation of CA-7).  this segment has the usual two termini.

the south segment, which is what everyone is familiar with as "interstate 710" has a northern terminus at Valley Boulevard.  the southern end splits into three termini serving Long Beach and the cruise ship ports; all of them are officially part of the route.

[TheStranger]

the south segment, which is what everyone is familiar with as "interstate 710" has a northern terminus at Valley Boulevard.  the southern end splits into three termini serving Long Beach and the cruise ship ports; all of them are officially part of the route.

and what's even more nuts - the OFFICIAL terminus of Interstate 710 - as defined - is at Route 47...with Route 47 exiting off of itself in a Breezewood-like situation to reach the Terminal Island Freeway!

Based on signage, I think this terminus of 710 is shared with that of Route 103.

[florida]

Florida's weirdos:

SR 9336 - Not sure how or why they came up with that number, it dead-ends at Everglades National Park (a good reason, at least).

Most likely has to do with a combination of the 4-digit numbering scheme and how the majority of Miami-Dade County's state routes are numbered, grid-wise.


Other oddities:
-State routes only signed on concurrencies, even though they transfer to county roads on either end (SR 437 in Ocoee, SR 231 in Brooker).
-SR 363 splits into three at its northern terminus in Tallahassee. A one-way-pair and the original spur up Adams to end at the railroad tracks.
-Besides SR 363, two other state routes end at railroad tracks (SR 404, SR 235).
-SR 265 ends at a hospital entrance (continuing as CR 151).
-SR 155 terminates just after crossing over I-10, with no exit.
-SR 61 ends at the Franklin/Wakulla County Line, along US 98 (though it's unsigned in this immediate area).
-Two One state road is a partially brick road (SR 526 and SR 15 in Orlando)
-SR 231 (the other one in Lake Butler) ends at the Dept. of Corrections, transferring to CR 231 south of there.
-FDOT enjoys signing (or sometimes listing) state routes along concurrent routes, where one ends permanently or becomes a county route at a certain point. SR 10/SR A1A; SR 200/SR A1A; SR 6/US 41; SR 25A(unsigned)/US 441; SR 419/SR 434; SR 20/SR 329; SR 24A (completely concurrent on its entire routing).

[NE2]

-SR 61 ends at the Franklin/Wakulla County Line, along US 98 (though it's unsigned in this immediate area).

If I'm not mistaken, it actually ends at Panacea. There are historic reasons for this, since SR 30 was planned to go east via Spring Creek and Wakulla Beach to St. Marks (pre-1945 map showing the route).

Another end of SR 61 is at the Leon-Wakulla line, where it temporarily becomes Wakulla CR 61. Similarly SR 575 goes from US 301 to the Sumter-Hernando line.

-Two state roads are partially brick roads (SR 526 and SR 15 both in Orlando)

SR 15 is a brick one-way pair. Where's the brick on SR 526?


SR 145 has two sections, one fitting the grid at Madison, but the other far to the west in Fort Walton Beach.

Florida probably had the largest turnback to the counties of any state (Ontario did something similar ca. 2000).

Going by signage, the overlap of SR 33 with SR 50 in Lake County is SR 33 southbound but CR 33 northbound.

[v35322]

MS 178 technically exists in two portions - it terminates at a dead-end on the west bank of the Tenn-Tom near Fulton, and then resumes on the other side.

You'd think they'd just run it concurrent with U.S. 78 / I-22, since it crosses the Tenn-Tom about three miles south of there.

[Takumi]

VA 154 has two segments. Only one has any postings, and even that is only from I-64.

Has there ever been a MD 9?

[NE2]

VA 154 has two segments. Only one has any postings, and even that is only from I-64.

Has there ever been a MD 9?

No. 7-10 (and 11) were skipped in the initial numbering, just as NJ skipped 13-20.