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Author Topic: Is I-495 actually part of the Interstate Highway System between I-278 and I-678?  (Read 1681 times)

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Hey, there's a new route log: https://www.dot.ny.gov/divisions/operating/oom/transportation-systems/repository/2012%20tour-bk.pdf (NY 781?)

I-495/NY 495 is totally bungled here - no number for the Lincoln, I-495 beginning at the Queens-Midtown, with a gap between I-278 and I-678 that's NY 495. WTF? The FHWA's NHS map agrees. AND this matches the figure given by the FHWA: http://www.fhwa.dot.gov/reports/routefinder/table2.cfm WTMFF? Was the piece from I-278 to I-678 somehow never added to the IHS?

Traffic counts are more sensical, with NY 495 in the Lincoln and I-495 from the Queens-Midtown to Riverhead (no number across Manhattan).
« Last Edit: February 12, 2012, 10:36:18 PM by NE2 »
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I always thought that the technical beginning of I-495 was at the east end of the Queens-Midtown Tunnel. This is odd indeed.

I've also always wondered why the NY 495 designation even exists for the Lincoln Tunnel, considering it's all PANYNJ maintained.

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I've also always wondered why the NY 495 designation even exists for the Lincoln Tunnel, considering it's all PANYNJ maintained.
... that's still a state agency? I don't get why this is an issue. It's like saying the GWB and HT can't have route numbers either.
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Hey, there's a new route log: https://www.dot.ny.gov/divisions/operating/oom/transportation-systems/repository/2012%20tour-bk.pdf (NY 781?)

So far here's what I notice that's new:
-I-86 extended from Horseheads to Elmira (not yet mentioned in Broome County though)
-NY 283 truncated from NY 3 in Felts Mills back to NY 342 at "La Ray" [sic] (that doesn't seem to be news, probably just an overlooked update from years back)
-NY 343 no longer intersects US 44 at its west end (again, not news to this edition, but only just being updated)
-NY 495, per this topic, continues to show the gap between I-278 and I-678 (no change in this edition)
-NY 590 unchanged (contrary to the posted truncation at Titus Ave.)
-NY 631 unchanged; that is, not reflecting the extension between NY 31 and NY 370 (yet again, not new this year, but not updated either)
-NY 781 unchanged; that is, not updated to I-781

-NY 915J added for Round Lake Bypass
-NY 915L added for Maher Road (old piece of NY 85/Slingerlands Bypass)
-NY 915M added for Chrisler Ave. west of I-890 (which I never realized wasn't 915D...)
-NY 972E added for the new Seaway Int'l Bridge approach road replacing the Massena Traffic Circle (more news to me!)

-Some additions and updates to bicycle routes, including new Bicycle Route 517...(huh?)
-Ditto for commemorative bridges and highways...
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-Some additions and updates to bicycle routes, including new Bicycle Route 517...(huh?)
517 was signed a couple years ago with Obamabucks. It's a connection between 5, 17, and Bicycle PA Route Z, as well as being part of proposed USBR 30.
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I've also always wondered why the NY 495 designation even exists for the Lincoln Tunnel, considering it's all PANYNJ maintained.
... that's still a state agency? I don't get why this is an issue. It's like saying the GWB and HT can't have route numbers either.

Those crossings are part of posted interstates, so obviously the Port Authority signs them as such. But the Lincoln Tunnel is not, and NY 495 is unsigned (unless you count all the error I-495 signs), so it's therefore odd that NYSDOT would keep the number for it internally. Also odd that they would have traffic counts for it, considering it is not their responsibility.
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Also odd that they would have traffic counts for it, considering it is not their responsibility.
They have traffic counts for a bunch of locally-maintained touring routes, I believe.
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This reminds me of the Balto Beltway near the FSK Bridge, which is not an Interstate despite the I-695 shields on it.
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Also odd that they would have traffic counts for it, considering it is not their responsibility.
They have traffic counts for a bunch of locally-maintained touring routes, I believe.

They (NYSDOT) have traffic counts for <b>all</b> touring routes, locally-maintained or otherwise, as well as for all reference routes, NYSDOT-maintained or otherwise.
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I haven't been in this part of New York in nearly ten years and I was upset to see that the Massena traffic circle was removed.  That was a really interesting design.  What a shame.

Hey, there's a new route log: https://www.dot.ny.gov/divisions/operating/oom/transportation-systems/repository/2012%20tour-bk.pdf (NY 781?)

So far here's what I notice that's new:
-I-86 extended from Horseheads to Elmira (not yet mentioned in Broome County though)
-NY 283 truncated from NY 3 in Felts Mills back to NY 342 at "La Ray" [sic] (that doesn't seem to be news, probably just an overlooked update from years back)
-NY 343 no longer intersects US 44 at its west end (again, not news to this edition, but only just being updated)
-NY 495, per this topic, continues to show the gap between I-278 and I-678 (no change in this edition)
-NY 590 unchanged (contrary to the posted truncation at Titus Ave.)
-NY 631 unchanged; that is, not reflecting the extension between NY 31 and NY 370 (yet again, not new this year, but not updated either)
-NY 781 unchanged; that is, not updated to I-781

-NY 915J added for Round Lake Bypass
-NY 915L added for Maher Road (old piece of NY 85/Slingerlands Bypass)
-NY 915M added for Chrisler Ave. west of I-890 (which I never realized wasn't 915D...)
-NY 972E added for the new Seaway Int'l Bridge approach road replacing the Massena Traffic Circle (more news to me!)

-Some additions and updates to bicycle routes, including new Bicycle Route 517...(huh?)
-Ditto for commemorative bridges and highways...

Fixed quote -Alex
« Last Edit: April 02, 2012, 11:35:36 AM by Alex »
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This reminds me of the Balto Beltway near the FSK Bridge, which is not an Interstate despite the I-695 shields on it.

And right now, Md. 695 (signed as I-695) has gone back to its roots as a "Super-2" highway, because one of the draw spans over Curtis Creek is shut-down and the traffic is light enough to just have one lane in  each direction (admittedly with a temporary Jersey wall to prevent head-on crashes). 
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