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Author Topic: Old or incorrect local highway names  (Read 2918 times)

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Re: Old or incorrect local highway names
« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2012, 05:56:51 AM »

In my neck of the woods, Louisiana Highway 7 was replaced by US 371... I don't mean overlapped, I mean LA 7 is deleted completely. Nevertheless, old alignments are called Old Hwy 7, parish roads are PR 7, and bridges have LA 7 stamped into them.

We also stamp the highway names in the bridges, so if it was built before the highway numbers were changed in 1955, it still retains "State Route No. xx." the best is State Route C-1474, with State Route No. 99 1/2 Close behind
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Re: Old or incorrect local highway names
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2012, 11:30:44 AM »

We also stamp the highway names in the bridges, so if it was built before the highway numbers were changed in 1955, it still retains "State Route No. xx." the best is State Route C-1474, with State Route No. 99 1/2 Close behind

now this I'd like to see pictures of!  especially the 99 1/2.

I once found a bridge with a painted shield.  I believe this is a current alignment of LA-1 but it might not be.


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Re: Old or incorrect local highway names
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2012, 04:35:47 PM »

We also stamp the highway names in the bridges, so if it was built before the highway numbers were changed in 1955, it still retains "State Route No. xx." the best is State Route C-1474, with State Route No. 99 1/2 Close behind

now this I'd like to see pictures of!  especially the 99 1/2.

I once found a bridge with a painted shield.  I believe this is a current alignment of LA-1 but it might not be.



Where did ya find that at? I only know of one painted bridge, along LA 182, where the end cap is painted US 90 in big letters. I'll post a few photos on the forum, I think it's only a Louisiana thing though.
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Re: Old or incorrect local highway names
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2012, 05:01:07 PM »

Somewhere near Thibodaux.  I believe on LA-1 but don't quote me on that.

close to LA-182, so maybe some scouring in the area of the one you know about will reveal others.

have you ever seen an engraved shield?  As opposed to the rectangle with "US 90" or whatnot in it?  I could've sworn I spotted one once in the rear-view mirror but attempting to find one later was not fruitful.

I have seen an engraved ALABAMA US 72 in a 1980s photo of a railroad overpass.
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Re: Old or incorrect local highway names
« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2012, 07:56:50 PM »

I haven't seen any engraved shields anywhere. In other states, the U.S. route is labeled on bridges, but never any state or Interstate highways.


An old State Route 13 marker, engraved into a bridge.


State Route 152, known today as LA 19


Route 200, also known as LA 34.

Those are just a few that I have on hand... US 80 has a good number of 1920's bridges between Rayville and Delhi. I've attached a link to the only US 90 bridge that has the stamp (that I know of) along La. 182. Looks like the DOTD came through and actually repainted the "end cap"

http://showmystreet.com/0ho8tl_-1i6epm_j7d_10
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Re: Old or incorrect local highway names
« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2012, 12:42:31 AM »

Somewhere near Thibodaux.  I believe on LA-1 but don't quote me on that.

close to LA-182, so maybe some scouring in the area of the one you know about will reveal others.

have you ever seen an engraved shield?  As opposed to the rectangle with "US 90" or whatnot in it?  I could've sworn I spotted one once in the rear-view mirror but attempting to find one later was not fruitful.

I have seen an engraved ALABAMA US 72 in a 1980s photo of a railroad overpass.

There used to be an ALABAMA US 78 shield embossed in an overpass in Birmingham just north of I-20, but I understand that it's gone now.
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Re: Old or incorrect local highway names
« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2012, 12:21:21 PM »


There used to be an ALABAMA US 78 shield embossed in an overpass in Birmingham just north of I-20, but I understand that it's gone now.

we're probably thinking about the same one.  78 sounds right. 
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Re: Old or incorrect local highway names
« Reply #32 on: April 28, 2012, 07:11:24 AM »

OH 41 has one or two alignments south of Springfield called Old 70 Rd.  OH 41 was of course OH 70 before Ohio renumbered its I-duplicate state routes in the 60s. Before that event, the road was realigned to eliminate crossings with a railroad which at the time carried significant passenger traffic.

Near Townsend, TN there is an Old 71 or Old 73 or something across the creek from the current US highway (321?).  I don't have a map handy at the moment…
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Re: Old or incorrect local highway names
« Reply #33 on: April 28, 2012, 10:23:44 AM »


Near Townsend, TN there is an Old 71 or Old 73 or something across the creek from the current US highway (321?).  I don't have a map handy at the moment…

Ohio renumbered 73 in the 60s in anticipation of I-73?  how long ago has this silly I-73 idea been going on??
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Re: Old or incorrect local highway names
« Reply #34 on: April 28, 2012, 10:28:40 AM »

Tennessee. And it's still 71 or 73, just not signed as such.
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Re: Old or incorrect local highway names
« Reply #35 on: April 28, 2012, 10:56:41 AM »

Tennessee. And it's still 71 or 73, just not signed as such.

ah, I totally failed to catch the "TN".  I looked up Gatlinburg real fast, as I know 73 was signed there at least at one point in time (we have a photo of an old triangle shield on the gallery) - a brief glance at Street View showed no 71 or 73 shields at the expected intersection locations.  or 441s, for that matter.  or any signage at all???
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Re: Old or incorrect local highway names
« Reply #36 on: April 28, 2012, 11:06:40 AM »

Tennessee has Florida- and Alabama-style hidden routes.
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Re: Old or incorrect local highway names
« Reply #37 on: April 28, 2012, 11:26:29 AM »

Tennessee has Florida- and Alabama-style hidden routes.

what strikes me as odd is that 441 is treated as a "hidden route" there, too?  I just looked at my photos from Feb '10 and saw a modern 73/441 gantry.  I didn't photograph downtown Gatlinburg, though.
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« Reply #38 on: April 28, 2012, 11:38:21 AM »

Gatlinburg's all hickster, so don't expect good signage. There is 441 reassurance (sans 321) on Google heading north away from the central intersection. There's also a wonky NPS-maintained bypass that's only signed as "Gatlinburg By-Pass".
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Re: Old or incorrect local highway names
« Reply #39 on: April 28, 2012, 08:46:50 PM »

strikes me as odd is that 441 is treated as a "hidden route" there, too?  I just looked at my photos from Feb '10 and saw a modern 73/441 gantry.  I didn't photograph downtown Gatlinburg, though.

Probably only hidden in the national park. Just as you leave the park and enter the city limits northbound, there used to be a 441/73 assembly. TN 73 was the signed route heading east out of town until US 321 was extended. It was also extended over a local road (Wears Valley) from Pigeon Forge to Townsend.
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Re: Old or incorrect local highway names
« Reply #40 on: May 02, 2012, 02:59:38 AM »

South of Garden City, Kansas, one of the roads was officially christened "Old 83" when Finney County installed its E911 system. No other former routes were named as such. Old 50 from Garden City to Holcomb was named "Jones Ave." which makes sense since it's Buffalo Jones Ave. in Garden City and Jones Ave. in Holcomb.
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