Signs With Design Errors

[SignGeek101]

https://goo.gl/maps/xfziVC77Jez

Other than it being wrong, it's been done horribly   

It should be 307-S. It turns out, the yellow was added later to express the 'exit only' for that lane.

[noelbotevera]

https://goo.gl/maps/xfziVC77Jez

Other than it being wrong, it's been done horribly   

It should be 307-S. It turns out, the yellow was added later to express the 'exit only' for that lane.

Funny thing is that there's room to scrunch over 307 and slap on -S.

[WNYroadgeek]

Somebody forgot to cut out this Thruway shield before mounting it: https://goo.gl/maps/ips7w9HDM4s

[SignBridge]

I think it looks good that way; better contrast. Similar to New Jersey DOT's practice of putting the state-route circular shield in a black box on BGS's.

[peterj920]

The US 41 sign was an erroneous US 141 sign.  Notice that the first 1 was whitewashed and the 4 is in the center. 

[AsphaltPlanet]

https://goo.gl/maps/ZZHBj

Lowercase where a capital should be. oOps.

That's actually grammatically correct in French.  In french, street, road, avenue, ect. aren't supposed to be capitalized, only the proper noun should be.

[SignGeek101]

https://goo.gl/maps/ZZHBj

Lowercase where a capital should be. oOps.

That's actually grammatically correct in French.  In french, street, road, avenue, ect. aren't supposed to be capitalized, only the proper noun should be.

I was actually thinking about the cardinal direction. The 'O' in 'OUEST' in the middle sign is a lower case letter 'o'. Compare how it looks with the word "Brandon" underneath it and the "NORTH" on the sign to the right.

[J N Winkler]

That's actually grammatically correct in French.  In french, street, road, avenue, etc. aren't supposed to be capitalized, only the proper noun should be.

This is true (compare "rue St.-Jacques" with "St. James Street"), but in Québec at least, primary destination legend is treated as if it is in title case:  hence "Centre Infotouriste" instead of "Centre infotouriste," "Rue Hochelaga" instead of "rue Hochelaga," etc.

[AsphaltPlanet]

https://goo.gl/maps/ZZHBj

Lowercase where a capital should be. oOps.

That's actually grammatically correct in French.  In french, street, road, avenue, ect. aren't supposed to be capitalized, only the proper noun should be.

I was actually thinking about the cardinal direction. The 'O' in 'OUEST' in the middle sign is a lower case letter 'o'. Compare how it looks with the word "Brandon" underneath it and the "NORTH" on the sign to the right.

I didn't notice that one.

I quite like how Winnipeg signs the by-pass in blue.

[AsphaltPlanet]

Green instead of blue on new signage for the 407 along the southbound lanes of the 410:

[SignGeek101]

Green instead of blue on new signage for the 407 along the southbound lanes of the 410:

Ontario keeps replacing those gantries I see.  The old ones are eyesores IMO. The green is interesting. I wonder if there was something done within MTO to change the colour of ETR signs with the new 407 coming this spring and all. Perhaps they are trying to differentiate the two freeways more.

Or maybe, like you said, it's simply a mistake 

[jblock42]

Two signs that always make me irrationally upset are on US-31 right by me at Ferris and Hayes Sts

I'm not sure exactly what's wrong with them, it looks like the shield is too wide, but that doesn't make sense if the south mark is also 24" then the sign looks like it's also 24" ???

(excuse the photo quality I took these on my phone as I was driving past them earlier today)

[Brandon]

^^ The second curse is worse than the first!  Because ugly Clearview numbers.

[thenetwork]

Two signs that always make me irrationally upset are on US-31 right by me at Ferris and Hayes Sts

I'm not sure exactly what's wrong with them, it looks like the shield is too wide, but that doesn't make sense if the south mark is also 24" then the sign looks like it's also 24" ???

(excuse the photo quality I took these on my phone as I was driving past them earlier today)

In the second one, the "31" is in butt-ugly Clearview.  Plus both shields are placing 2-digits within a 3-digit shield.

[jblock42]

Two signs that always make me irrationally upset are on US-31 right by me at Ferris and Hayes Sts

I'm not sure exactly what's wrong with them, it looks like the shield is too wide, but that doesn't make sense if the south mark is also 24" then the sign looks like it's also 24" ???

(excuse the photo quality I took these on my phone as I was driving past them earlier today)

In the second one, the "31" is in butt-ugly Clearview.  Plus both shields are placing 2-digits within a 3-digit shield.

I wasn't exactly sure if they were 3 digit shields because of the south marks still looking like the normal 24" ones, because they look pretty much lined up as well as they can be?

[PHLBOS]

I wasn't exactly sure if they were 3 digit shields because of the south marks still looking like the normal 24" ones, because they look pretty much lined up as well as they can be?

For the size of the shield, the SOUTH banners appear to be one size larger; i.e. intended for a larger route shield size.

[jblock42]

I wasn't exactly sure if they were 3 digit shields because of the south marks still looking like the normal 24" ones, because they look pretty much lined up as well as they can be?

For the size of the shield, the SOUTH banners appear to be one size larger; i.e. intended for a larger route shield size.

I was wondering if that was the case! Seems so stupid that they'd put it on the non freeway part of the highway, and with a 3 digit shied??

[AsphaltPlanet]

Green instead of blue on new signage for the 407 along the southbound lanes of the 410:

Ontario keeps replacing those gantries I see.  The old ones are eyesores IMO. The green is interesting. I wonder if there was something done within MTO to change the colour of ETR signs with the new 407 coming this spring and all. Perhaps they are trying to differentiate the two freeways more.

Or maybe, like you said, it's simply a mistake 

I have to think it's a mistake.  I can't see the logic of deliberately changing the signs from blue to green.  Particularly since so many of the entrance signs would be maintained by the 407 ETR themselves, who in my opinion, would be unlikely to update their signage stock without absolutely needing to.  The thing that does surprise me about this sign however, is that it looks like it's come from the MTO sign shop.  Usually signage from the sign shop is pretty good, as I get the impression that the staff who work their understand how Ontario's highways are typically signed.  Contractor signage is typically less reliable.

[KEVIN_224]

^^ The second curse is worse than the first!  Because ugly Clearview numbers.

The second sign's font looks like something I've seen on Maine state route signs. 

[Zeffy]

^^ The second curse is worse than the first!  Because ugly Clearview numbers.

The second sign's font looks like something I've seen on Maine state route signs. 

That's LeHay, which is a mysterious font that doesn't have any sort of documentation or anything besides road signs that use them. Massachusetts and Maryland, among others, also used the font.

[Ian]

^^ The second curse is worse than the first!  Because ugly Clearview numbers.

The second sign's font looks like something I've seen on Maine state route signs. 

That's LeHay, which is a mysterious font that doesn't have any sort of documentation or anything besides road signs that use them. Massachusetts and Maryland, among others, also used the font.

No they haven't. LeHay was only ever used in Maine, since it was created by a sign shop worker who used to work for MaineDOT way back when. While the fonts used in Mass and Maryland were very similar, they aren't the same.

[hbelkins]

^^ The second curse is worse than the first!  Because ugly Clearview numbers.

The second sign's font looks like something I've seen on Maine state route signs. 

That's LeHay, which is a mysterious font that doesn't have any sort of documentation or anything besides road signs that use them. Massachusetts and Maryland, among others, also used the font.

No they haven't. LeHay was only ever used in Maine, since it was created by a sign shop worker who used to work for MaineDOT way back when. While the fonts used in Mass and Maryland were very similar, they aren't the same.

I've seen it used at least once in West Virginia. When I originally took and posted the years ago, someone (Adam Prince maybe) noted that it looked like a "northeastern font."

[jakeroot]

This is the second time WSDOT has used a 2DI shield to display a 3DI. The first time was on this BGS (which, interestingly enough, uses Series E for the numerals).

If it was a reassurance shield, I'd shit bricks. But it isn't.

[lordsutch]

I have to think it's a mistake.  I can't see the logic of deliberately changing the signs from blue to green.  Particularly since so many of the entrance signs would be maintained by the 407 ETR themselves, who in my opinion, would be unlikely to update their signage stock without absolutely needing to.  The thing that does surprise me about this sign however, is that it looks like it's come from the MTO sign shop.  Usually signage from the sign shop is pretty good, as I get the impression that the staff who work their understand how Ontario's highways are typically signed.  Contractor signage is typically less reliable.

I think the logic is that the through route isn't tolled (or the local part of an express/local setup, which is the other use case for blue guide signs by MTO), so the proper background should be green rather than blue.

[AsphaltPlanet]

I have to think it's a mistake.  I can't see the logic of deliberately changing the signs from blue to green.  Particularly since so many of the entrance signs would be maintained by the 407 ETR themselves, who in my opinion, would be unlikely to update their signage stock without absolutely needing to.  The thing that does surprise me about this sign however, is that it looks like it's come from the MTO sign shop.  Usually signage from the sign shop is pretty good, as I get the impression that the staff who work their understand how Ontario's highways are typically signed.  Contractor signage is typically less reliable.

I think the logic is that the through route isn't tolled (or the local part of an express/local setup, which is the other use case for blue guide signs by MTO), so the proper background should be green rather than blue.

The standard is to sign the 407 with a blue sign on all routes:













That standard has been emulated on the 407 extension as well  (these signs were erected in November of 2015:


The only exception to signing the 407 in blue is when the 407 shares a sign with a non-tolled route.  The blue is reserved for signs that are exclusively for the 407.