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Started by Snappyjack, January 26, 2009, 11:56:04 PM

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codyg1985

I passed through the construction zone going southbound on Friday. The contractor has already installed additional overhead signage (but has them covered with tarps) for the eventual C/D road to I-22 West and US 31.
Cody Goodman
Huntsville, AL, United States

clong

I was able to see Exit 265 as one of the aforementioned tarps had slipped down.

Grzrd

#703
Quote from: TrevorB on November 05, 2014, 10:07:07 PM
It's a FB message, but not that it makes a difference:

It looks like the time has finally arrived, as this MDOT Press Release reflects:

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The Mississippi Transportation Commission (MTC) has authorized the Mississippi Department of Transportation (MDOT) to submit an application for approval to designate U.S. Highway 78 as Interstate 22 in North Mississippi.
U.S. 78 was congressionally designated as a future interstate corridor and will connect to Interstate 269 in Mississippi once construction is complete. MDOT's application to change U.S. 78 to I-22 will be sent to the U.S. Department of Transportation and the Federal Highway Administration for final approval.

I assume the MTC gave MDOT the approval to submit the application in time for MDOT to meet the application submittal deadline for the May 13 AASHTO Special Committee on Route Numbering meeting.  We'll know soon .........




Quote from: codyg1985 on November 10, 2014, 09:15:00 PM
So I guess the Future I-22 Corridor sign just south of the TN/MS State Line will go away?  :spin:

It will be interesting to see if it remains.

codyg1985

The application to AASHTO will be interesting for sure. I was almost tempted to ask my mom (who drove to Tupelo last weekend from Jasper) if there were any signs up, but she wouldn't have known.
Cody Goodman
Huntsville, AL, United States

Mileage Mike

Any updates about what TN plans to do about I-22 in Memphis?  Last I read it was looking unfeasible to upgrade Lamar Ave to Interstate through town up to I-240.

lordsutch

Quote from: Cemajr on May 05, 2015, 09:12:21 PM
Any updates about what TN plans to do about I-22 in Memphis?  Last I read it was looking unfeasible to upgrade Lamar Ave to Interstate through town up to I-240.

TN plans to do nothing, since I-22 will end at I-269. They had the option of using the HPC designation to justify upgrading Lamar to full freeway standards, but they've chosen not to do so, so even if all the planned projects happen the freeway-standard section will probably peter out around Winchester.

codyg1985

Quote from: lordsutch on May 05, 2015, 09:30:49 PM
Quote from: Cemajr on May 05, 2015, 09:12:21 PM
Any updates about what TN plans to do about I-22 in Memphis?  Last I read it was looking unfeasible to upgrade Lamar Ave to Interstate through town up to I-240.

TN plans to do nothing, since I-22 will end at I-269. They had the option of using the HPC designation to justify upgrading Lamar to full freeway standards, but they've chosen not to do so, so even if all the planned projects happen the freeway-standard section will probably peter out around Winchester.

If it ever makes it to Winchester, then I would figure there may be enough political will to finish it to I-240, but, as you said, that is IF all the planned projects happen.
Cody Goodman
Huntsville, AL, United States

msubulldog

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Matt 7:14, NLT

SteveG1988

There is no change on the signage. Still says 78, Future I-22 Corridor on sporadicaly placed signage.
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codyg1985

Quote from: SteveG1988 on May 10, 2015, 06:47:26 AM
There is no change on the signage. Still says 78, Future I-22 Corridor on sporadicaly placed signage.

MDOT is awaiting approval from AASHTO and FHWA before installing signage.
Cody Goodman
Huntsville, AL, United States

Henry

Quote from: codyg1985 on May 11, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on May 10, 2015, 06:47:26 AM
There is no change on the signage. Still says 78, Future I-22 Corridor on sporadicaly placed signage.

MDOT is awaiting approval from AASHTO and FHWA before installing signage.
And even then, I wouldn't expect to see signs until after I-269 is completed where it crosses over I-22.
Go Cubs Go! Go Cubs Go! Hey Chicago, what do you say? The Cubs are gonna win today!

iBallasticwolf2

Quote from: Henry on May 11, 2015, 01:22:51 PM
Quote from: codyg1985 on May 11, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on May 10, 2015, 06:47:26 AM
There is no change on the signage. Still says 78, Future I-22 Corridor on sporadicaly placed signage.

MDOT is awaiting approval from AASHTO and FHWA before installing signage.
And even then, I wouldn't expect to see signs until after I-269 is completed where it crosses over I-22.

Makes sense to not sign an interstate until an interstate that has an interchange with it is complete at that particular interchange
Only two things are infinite in this world, stupidity, and I-75 construction

codyg1985

Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on May 14, 2015, 08:32:26 PM
Quote from: Henry on May 11, 2015, 01:22:51 PM
Quote from: codyg1985 on May 11, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on May 10, 2015, 06:47:26 AM
There is no change on the signage. Still says 78, Future I-22 Corridor on sporadicaly placed signage.

MDOT is awaiting approval from AASHTO and FHWA before installing signage.
And even then, I wouldn't expect to see signs until after I-269 is completed where it crosses over I-22.

Makes sense to not sign an interstate until an interstate that has an interchange with it is complete at that particular interchange

Or they could just design the entire thing as I-22 (from the TN/MS line to the MS/AL line) as I-22, but it doesn't seem like they will do that. It would eliminate both that problem and having to renumber the exits and reset the mileposts.
Cody Goodman
Huntsville, AL, United States

Henry

Quote from: codyg1985 on May 14, 2015, 08:35:50 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on May 14, 2015, 08:32:26 PM
Quote from: Henry on May 11, 2015, 01:22:51 PM
Quote from: codyg1985 on May 11, 2015, 10:18:51 AM
Quote from: SteveG1988 on May 10, 2015, 06:47:26 AM
There is no change on the signage. Still says 78, Future I-22 Corridor on sporadicaly placed signage.

MDOT is awaiting approval from AASHTO and FHWA before installing signage.
And even then, I wouldn't expect to see signs until after I-269 is completed where it crosses over I-22.

Makes sense to not sign an interstate until an interstate that has an interchange with it is complete at that particular interchange

Or they could just design the entire thing as I-22 (from the TN/MS line to the MS/AL line) as I-22, but it doesn't seem like they will do that. It would eliminate both that problem and having to renumber the exits and reset the mileposts.
Also, there's the possibility of extending I-22 westward onto I-269, but we'll see whether that happens, however little chance it may actually have.
Go Cubs Go! Go Cubs Go! Hey Chicago, what do you say? The Cubs are gonna win today!

TrevorB

It was already confirmed by MDOT that the I-269/I-22 concurrence is not happening. I-22 is ending at I-269.

roadman65

Quote from: TrevorB on May 15, 2015, 07:56:48 PM
It was already confirmed by MDOT that the I-269/I-22 concurrence is not happening. I-22 is ending at I-269.
Then they better put up TO- I-22 signs along I-55 and TO I-55 signs up at the end of I-22.   I think we have a better chance of ISIS becoming born again Christians then we do having I-22 being completed into Memphis.
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TrevorB

HAHA...yes they definitely need that! Don't know why they don't extend it through 240 or at least to the state line

codyg1985

Quote from: TrevorB on May 15, 2015, 08:18:22 PM
HAHA...yes they definitely need that! Don't know why they don't extend it through 240 or at least to the state line

I could see a problem with long-distance motorists assuming that if you stay on I-22 past I-269 that you would have an interstate-grade facility all the way into Memphis, so that is a rationale for ending it at I-269. It could always be extended later if/when Lamar Avenue is upgraded to a freeway (which will cost mega $$$).
Cody Goodman
Huntsville, AL, United States

iBallasticwolf2

Quote from: codyg1985 on May 15, 2015, 10:57:14 PM
Quote from: TrevorB on May 15, 2015, 08:18:22 PM
HAHA...yes they definitely need that! Don't know why they don't extend it through 240 or at least to the state line

I could see a problem with long-distance motorists assuming that if you stay on I-22 past I-269 that you would have an interstate-grade facility all the way into Memphis, so that is a rationale for ending it at I-269. It could always be extended later if/when Lamar Avenue is upgraded to a freeway (which will cost mega $$$).

Were there ever plans to extend I-22 all the way to I-240 in DOWNTOWN Memphis (Near I-40) ?
Only two things are infinite in this world, stupidity, and I-75 construction

lordsutch

Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on May 16, 2015, 07:52:35 PM
Were there ever plans to extend I-22 all the way to I-240 in DOWNTOWN Memphis (Near I-40) ?

No. In fact, TDOT has never planned to do anything with I-22 at all.

iBallasticwolf2

Quote from: lordsutch on May 16, 2015, 09:46:08 PM
Quote from: iBallasticwolf2 on May 16, 2015, 07:52:35 PM
Were there ever plans to extend I-22 all the way to I-240 in DOWNTOWN Memphis (Near I-40) ?

No. In fact, TDOT has never planned to do anything with I-22 at all.

Ok
Only two things are infinite in this world, stupidity, and I-75 construction

Grzrd

#722
Quote from: codyg1985 on November 10, 2014, 09:15:00 PM
So I guess the Future I-22 Corridor sign just south of the TN/MS State Line will go away?  :spin:

FWIW the Mississippi section of the Memphis Urban Area MPO's 2020 Horizon Year Table of Highway Projects in the Implementation Plan for the Long Range Transportation Plan suggests that I-22 has been the expectation for US 78 in that neck of the woods (p. 22/57 of pdf; p. 8-20 of document):



Maybe MDOT will toss them a bone and seek an I-x22 designation for US 78 from I-269 to either Goodman Road or the state line.

Grzrd

#723
Quote from: Grzrd on May 17, 2015, 03:58:06 PM
Maybe MDOT will toss them a bone and seek an I-x22 designation for US 78 from I-269 to either Goodman Road or the state line.

I recently emailed MDOT and asked if they had considered seeking an I-x22 spur designation from I-269 toward the Tennessee state line. I was mildly surprised to find out that they have considered such a possibility, but (if I interpret the email correctly) that particular stretch of US 78 is not currently interstate-grade and they will not pursue the possibility at this time; however, it will remain as Future I-22:

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Thank you for your inquiry.  Yes, the application has been submitted to FHWA. And yes, I-22 and US 78 will run concurrently as you described from the I-269 Interchange to the Alabama State Line.  The stretch from the Tennessee State Line does not meet the requirements for an Interstate at this time so it will remain future I-22. We investigated the possibility of a spur route, but have decided not to pursue that for now.

With MDOT's current monetary challenges, I suspect that upgrading that section to interstate-grade would be a low priority.

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I also suspect that retaining the Future I-22 designation for that stretch will make it easy for MDOT to retain the current US 78 exit numbers and mile markers from I-269 to the Alabama state line.  Doing so would be similar to how TxDOT has determined the exit numbers for I-2.

roadman65

I do not think they need to worry about exit numbers if that is what they are.  Look at IL using I-270's exit numbers for I-70's system east of the I-55/ I-70 split.  I-70 travelers east of I-55 are going by mileage to the Mississippi River Crossing on I-270 and not its own either.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe



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