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Title: Physical drive lanes?
Post by: abefroman329 on June 20, 2022, 12:03:21 PM
I saw this terminology in this press release:

https://www.flychicago.com/business/media/news/pages/article.aspx?newsid=1711&fbclid=IwAR1CPoXzPjQ1V1iFMJNxro2OKxg0Mbu9-0FPQH6JVRbtuArKjwH1xqBtdzE

QuoteAn expansion to the curbside area, including physical drive lanes, dedicated entry and exit roadways, escalators, and pedestrian areas

What in the world is a "physical drive lane"?  I Googled it and Google seems to think it's a contraflow lane, which...doesn't make a whole lot of since, since airport access roads tend to be one-way.
Title: Re: Physical drive lanes?
Post by: kphoger on June 20, 2022, 12:11:50 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on June 20, 2022, 12:03:21 PM
... airport access roads tend to be one-way.

https://goo.gl/maps/9geRLNhKXeqo1tLr8
https://goo.gl/maps/p7DmoumxfDDBTxgv6

:biggrin:
Title: Re: Physical drive lanes?
Post by: abefroman329 on June 20, 2022, 12:19:36 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 20, 2022, 12:11:50 PM
Quote from: abefroman329 on June 20, 2022, 12:03:21 PM
... airport access roads tend to be one-way.

https://goo.gl/maps/9geRLNhKXeqo1tLr8
https://goo.gl/maps/p7DmoumxfDDBTxgv6

:biggrin:
And just where would you put a contraflow system here, sir?

https://www.google.com/maps/place/O'Hare+International+Airport/@41.975533,-87.8890966,18.25z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x880fb4276a7762f3:0x511747070259ad4b!8m2!3d41.98028!4d-87.9089979
Title: Re: Physical drive lanes?
Post by: Dirt Roads on June 20, 2022, 02:54:02 PM
Airports need to be careful how they describe the highways and roads.  In addition to the airport access roads, there are roads to the various facilities and parking lots (landside).  Plus, there is usually an extensive road network inside of the airport proper (airside).  On top of that, most airports also have more roads inside the AOA Restricted Area (aircraft operations area).  Then for some airports, there are also roads beneath the airside that may require emergency egress facilities and security controls.  [For the record, there are also trains and cargo conveyors that have to fit into these same categories].

I think you are correct to assume that "physical drive lanes" means the main airport access and other key roads on the landside.  But I am also curious where that term originated.
Title: Re: Physical drive lanes?
Post by: froggie on June 20, 2022, 03:39:11 PM
Maybe the PR person's way of explaining it?  A quick Google search of "physical drive lanes" finds the ONLY links are related to that O'Hare Terminal 5 announcement.
Title: Re: Physical drive lanes?
Post by: kphoger on June 20, 2022, 04:08:21 PM
Quote from: froggie on June 20, 2022, 03:39:11 PM
A quick Google search of "physical drive lanes" finds the ONLY links are related to that O'Hare Terminal 5 announcement.

Same here.  Only five hits on Google, and they're all exactly the same verbiage.

If you're really curious to find out, here is the contact info for the PR department at the Chicago Department of Aviation:

cdamedia@cityofchicago.org
(312) 656-6108

https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/doa/provdrs/dbata/news/2022/june/622022.html
Title: Re: Physical drive lanes?
Post by: abefroman329 on June 20, 2022, 04:13:16 PM
Quote from: kphoger on June 20, 2022, 04:08:21 PM
Quote from: froggie on June 20, 2022, 03:39:11 PM
A quick Google search of "physical drive lanes" finds the ONLY links are related to that O'Hare Terminal 5 announcement.

Same here.  Only five hits on Google, and they're all exactly the same verbiage.

If you're really curious to find out, here is the contact info for the PR department at the Chicago Department of Aviation:

cdamedia@cityofchicago.org
(312) 656-6108

https://www.chicago.gov/city/en/depts/doa/provdrs/dbata/news/2022/june/622022.html
Thanks, I asked them, will update this thread if/when I hear back.
Title: Re: Physical drive lanes?
Post by: abefroman329 on July 09, 2022, 08:24:37 AM
...and I received the following response a few days ago:

QuoteGood morning.

Here is the response to your question -

"Physical drive lanes"  means additional roadway lanes that a motorist can drive through to augment the existing curbside and roadway capacity that exists at Terminal 5 for passenger pick-up and drop-off.

Thank you.

So...there you have it. Physical drive lanes.