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Dallas North Tollway Widening and Extension, SH 121 northward

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bwana39:

--- Quote from: The Ghostbuster on June 23, 2022, 12:22:54 PM ---If, instead of eventually terminating the DNT at US 75 in Denison, TX (ironically, my late stepfather's last name was Denison), they decided to extend the DNT into Oklahoma, possibly to terminate at US 70? Could it be done?

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It COULD but it would require crossing the lake. Pretty pricey.  I don't think it makes a lot of sense economically.  Not to mention the Oklahoma commitment required.

I-35:

--- Quote from: The Ghostbuster on June 23, 2022, 12:22:54 PM ---If, instead of eventually terminating the DNT at US 75 in Denison, TX (ironically, my late stepfather's last name was Denison), they decided to extend the DNT into Oklahoma, possibly to terminate at US 70? Could it be done?

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They could, but there's no reason to.  The Denison Dam is only a couple miles west of the current 69/75 alignment - if a new routing was proposed to go across Lake Texoma at one of its widest points, the bridge alone would easily run into the hundreds of millions of dollars. 

I've proposed this on another thread, but Cooke and Denton County need to get involved and propose a west spur of the DNT to connect into I-35, somewhere north of Winstar. (around MM7 on I-35)  This would provide a much needed NW-SE highway alignment that doesn't currently exist, and an alternate to I-35 for traffic headed to the northern DFW suburbs.  Right now, with the proposed Grayson County Tollway, and TX 289/Preston Rd, there are several alignments that parallel US 75 already, despite I-35 carrying more interregional traffic.  I get that Gainesville is but a blip compared to Sherman/Denison, but there's no reason to think development won't fan out across north Texas from Tioga/Pilot Point over to Van Alstyne.

Road Hog:

--- Quote from: austrini on June 22, 2022, 04:34:29 PM ---It goes up to FM 121 west of Gunter now, it's not open yet - here's an aerial from June 13



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None of it north of FM 428 is open yet, but it’s nice to see the progress.

dchristy:

--- Quote from: I-35 on June 23, 2022, 02:24:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: The Ghostbuster on June 23, 2022, 12:22:54 PM ---If, instead of eventually terminating the DNT at US 75 in Denison, TX (ironically, my late stepfather's last name was Denison), they decided to extend the DNT into Oklahoma, possibly to terminate at US 70? Could it be done?

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They could, but there's no reason to.  The Denison Dam is only a couple miles west of the current 69/75 alignment - if a new routing was proposed to go across Lake Texoma at one of its widest points, the bridge alone would easily run into the hundreds of millions of dollars. 

I've proposed this on another thread, but Cooke and Denton County need to get involved and propose a west spur of the DNT to connect into I-35, somewhere north of Winstar. (around MM7 on I-35)  This would provide a much needed NW-SE highway alignment that doesn't currently exist, and an alternate to I-35 for traffic headed to the northern DFW suburbs.  Right now, with the proposed Grayson County Tollway, and TX 289/Preston Rd, there are several alignments that parallel US 75 already, despite I-35 carrying more interregional traffic.  I get that Gainesville is but a blip compared to Sherman/Denison, but there's no reason to think development won't fan out across north Texas from Tioga/Pilot Point over to Van Alstyne.

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I wholeheartedly agree that this should be done but, unfortunately, I don't see Oklahoma getting involved for even a few miles in Love County.  Is there a good place between Gainesville and the state line where this extension could terminate?

I-35:

--- Quote from: dchristy on June 26, 2022, 11:57:31 AM ---
--- Quote from: I-35 on June 23, 2022, 02:24:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: The Ghostbuster on June 23, 2022, 12:22:54 PM ---If, instead of eventually terminating the DNT at US 75 in Denison, TX (ironically, my late stepfather's last name was Denison), they decided to extend the DNT into Oklahoma, possibly to terminate at US 70? Could it be done?

--- End quote ---

They could, but there's no reason to.  The Denison Dam is only a couple miles west of the current 69/75 alignment - if a new routing was proposed to go across Lake Texoma at one of its widest points, the bridge alone would easily run into the hundreds of millions of dollars. 

I've proposed this on another thread, but Cooke and Denton County need to get involved and propose a west spur of the DNT to connect into I-35, somewhere north of Winstar. (around MM7 on I-35)  This would provide a much needed NW-SE highway alignment that doesn't currently exist, and an alternate to I-35 for traffic headed to the northern DFW suburbs.  Right now, with the proposed Grayson County Tollway, and TX 289/Preston Rd, there are several alignments that parallel US 75 already, despite I-35 carrying more interregional traffic.  I get that Gainesville is but a blip compared to Sherman/Denison, but there's no reason to think development won't fan out across north Texas from Tioga/Pilot Point over to Van Alstyne.

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I wholeheartedly agree that this should be done but, unfortunately, I don't see Oklahoma getting involved for even a few miles in Love County.  Is there a good place between Gainesville and the state line where this extension could terminate?

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There would only be about 4-5 miles in Oklahoma, so honestly I wonder if NTTA could run the facility under an agreement with OTA.  Or just make the 4-5 mile stem into Oklahoma an untolled portion.  The Chickasaws may well put money in for a new Winstar Blvd eastern interchange, plus it opens up that area for development near the casino.  The northern end of the spur could be a scaled down version of the TX130/IH-35 wye interchange north of Georgetown.

If it needed to end near Gainesville, tying it into the area around the old factory outlets makes some sense, but that takes it a few miles farther west than need be.

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