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Drivers will soon pay twice as much to use ZipCash on North Texas toll roads
GaryV:
I suppose you could read it that way - that they will be paying twice as much as those with tags. But the wording isn't clear, certainly not in the title of the article.
Say a toll was $5 with a tag. Right now, the non-tag toll would be $7.50. After the change, it would go to $10 - a 33.33% increase. Not twice as much.
ZLoth:
--- Quote from: GaryV on June 02, 2023, 11:37:33 AM ---I suppose you could read it that way - that they will be paying twice as much as those with tags. But the wording isn't clear, certainly not in the title of the article.
Say a toll was $5 with a tag. Right now, the non-tag toll would be $7.50. After the change, it would go to $10 - a 33.33% increase. Not twice as much.
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Yeah, but that ZipCash premium is doubling from $2.50 to $5.00.... that's a 100% increase. The ultimate message... don't pay double the premium to drive the DFW roads, get a TollTag.
Somehow "double" has more impact than "one-third".
wanderer2575:
--- Quote from: ZLoth on June 02, 2023, 03:58:05 PM ---
--- Quote from: GaryV on June 02, 2023, 11:37:33 AM ---I suppose you could read it that way - that they will be paying twice as much as those with tags. But the wording isn't clear, certainly not in the title of the article.
Say a toll was $5 with a tag. Right now, the non-tag toll would be $7.50. After the change, it would go to $10 - a 33.33% increase. Not twice as much.
--- End quote ---
Yeah, but that ZipCash premium is doubling from $2.50 to $5.00.... that's a 100% increase. The ultimate message... don't pay double the premium to drive the DFW roads, get a TollTag.
Somehow "double" has more impact than "one-third".
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You have to remember you're dealing with a populace that thinks a 1/3-pound burger is smaller than a 1/4-pound burger because 3 is less than 4.
wxfree:
--- Quote from: GaryV on June 02, 2023, 11:37:33 AM ---I suppose you could read it that way - that they will be paying twice as much as those with tags. But the wording isn't clear, certainly not in the title of the article.
Say a toll was $5 with a tag. Right now, the non-tag toll would be $7.50. After the change, it would go to $10 - a 33.33% increase. Not twice as much.
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I think that math is the way to look at it, except I reach the opposite conclusion. The headline is "Drivers will soon pay twice as much to use ZipCash on North Texas toll roads." In your example, everyone pays the $5 toll, but to use ZipCash you pay an additional $2.5 now and will pay $5 soon. The total cost isn't increasing by 100%, but the cost to use ZipCash is. The base tolls are increasing by about a penny per mile (about 5.5%) at the same time, which is a part of the regular increase every two years, but that doesn't figure into the increase amount, because what's doubling isn't the actual cost, but is the premium charged for not using a tag. The increase in the premium will be slightly more than 100% because of the base rate increase but the premium increase is still exactly 100%. The wording could be more precise, and all of this detailed information is publicly available, but a press release isn't the place to put legalese fine print. The cost to use ZipCash, which is in addition to the cost of the toll, is doubling.
Bobby5280:
The price hike for ZipCash would put the premium for paying via license plate about on par with Oklahoma's turnpikes. Honestly, it's pretty stupid for anyone to drive on Oklahoma's turnpikes on any repeat basis without a PikePass-compatible RFID toll tag. They'll be paying nearly double the toll cost to just do pay by license plate in Oklahoma.
I think the price premium for pay by plate is there for two reasons: covering the added administrative cost to handle the transactions and to give motorists an incentive to stop procrastinating and just get a toll tag already.
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