Formula 1 racing chatter!

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formulanone

Quote from: 1995hoo on May 05, 2022, 07:01:30 PM
People complained about having an F1 race in a car park in Las Vegas 40 years ago. We'll see how they react this time.

Sochi, Valencia, and Albert Park were/are similarly flat and use parking lots in their layout. I think there's just too many business owners and local folks who don't want the week-long disruption of closing downtown Miami.

Ironically, both F1 races at Caesar's Palace were title-deciders which gave decent racing.


JoePCool14

Quote from: formulanone on May 06, 2022, 08:01:51 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 05, 2022, 07:01:30 PM
People complained about having an F1 race in a car park in Las Vegas 40 years ago. We'll see how they react this time.

Sochi, Valencia, and Albert Park were/are similarly flat and use parking lots in their layout. I think there's just too many business owners and local folks who don't want the week-long disruption of closing downtown Miami.

Ironically, both F1 races at Caesar's Palace were title-deciders which gave decent racing.

The fact that the Caesar's Palace GPs were at the end of the season is probably the only reason. The track layout was unoriginal and repetitive, and the surroundings were very bleak.

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Did anyone else here attend the Canadian GP? This was my second GP in-person (I also did general admission in COTA last year). I think this went a lot better. The weather was much better (no 30+ celsius Texas sun), I was in the Lance Stroll grandstand on the exit of the hairpin and it was much nicer having a reserved seat with a guaranteed view (though admittedly the bench seats are very closely spaced and hard on your butt), the screens were large enough to read without binoculars and the speakers loud enough to hear commentary with my hearing protection on, this spot had several good overtakes, and the Metro was much better than dealing with driving the two-lane farm roads to COTA. The bigger screen and louder speakers were particularly nice and I felt like I could actually follow this race unlike COTA where I didn't really know what was going on lol. It was still a tiring trip with lots of walking, crowded trains, and busy lines, but it was a great time and the qualy and race were awesome! I'm happy Stroll got a point for the home crowd (I did not see that coming after qualy!) and Zhou had a great weekend too.

Here's a couple photos I took:

FP2 on Friday


Qualy on Saturday


Post-Race on Sunday. The tow trucks are bringing Schumacher's and Perez's cars back to the paddock.


Takumi

Montreal is a bit closer to me than the nearest US Grand Prix, which is Miami (700 miles vs 900), and likely cheaper too.

In other news, Red Bull junior driver Jüri Vips has been suspended for being a dumbass.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/red-bull-vips-racial-slur-suspended/10326456/
Quote from: Rothman on July 15, 2021, 07:52:59 AM
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1995hoo

I wish it had crossed my mind to try to get tickets this weekend what with yesterday having been a holiday. Maybe next year if the Montreal race is the same weekend (no sure thing–there's talk of trying to do a better job of pairing races for travel and budgetary reasons).
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Hot Rod Hootenanny

Lost, after the Zhou Guanyu crash, was the breach of the race grounds by a group of protesters. By the time they met up with the race cars, the race had already been "red flagged," so the extent of their protest was muted.
https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/34188481/track-breached-just-stop-oil-protesters-british-grand-prix
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Takumi

Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on July 03, 2022, 09:55:40 PM
Lost, after the Zhou Guanyu crash, was the breach of the race grounds by a group of protesters. By the time they met up with the race cars, the race had already been "red flagged," so the extent of their protest was muted.
https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/34188481/track-breached-just-stop-oil-protesters-british-grand-prix
Yeah, the red flag timing was fortunate to avoid another incident like this one.
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Quote from: Rothman on July 15, 2021, 07:52:59 AM
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Don't @ me. Seriously.

Takumi

Quote from: Rothman on July 15, 2021, 07:52:59 AM
Olive Garden must be stopped.  I must stop them.

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7/8


7/8

Things are getting even more interesting now. Alpine says Oscar Piastri will be racing for them next year, but Oscar posted a tweet saying he will not be racing with them in 2023.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.oscar-piastri-insists-i-will-not-be-driving-for-alpine-next-year-after-team.2IzNJp1wi79WZzmphZKSsB.html

And this is not long after the Alex Palou contract drama. :-D

Takumi

Suddenly Jack Doohan moving from Red Bull's junior team to the Alpine Academy looks like a stroke of genius.
Quote from: Rothman on July 15, 2021, 07:52:59 AM
Olive Garden must be stopped.  I must stop them.

Don't @ me. Seriously.

formulanone

Apparently commentator Will Buxton lives in Maine... :D


epzik8

Quote from: 7/8 on August 02, 2022, 02:50:15 PM
Things are getting even more interesting now. Alpine says Oscar Piastri will be racing for them next year, but Oscar posted a tweet saying he will not be racing with them in 2023.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.oscar-piastri-insists-i-will-not-be-driving-for-alpine-next-year-after-team.2IzNJp1wi79WZzmphZKSsB.html
Parker Kligerman from NASCAR promptly made a meme out of this, replacing Piastri with himself.
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Quote from: epzik8 on August 03, 2022, 09:27:29 PM
Quote from: 7/8 on August 02, 2022, 02:50:15 PM
Things are getting even more interesting now. Alpine says Oscar Piastri will be racing for them next year, but Oscar posted a tweet saying he will not be racing with them in 2023.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.oscar-piastri-insists-i-will-not-be-driving-for-alpine-next-year-after-team.2IzNJp1wi79WZzmphZKSsB.html
Parker Kligerman from NASCAR promptly made a meme out of this, replacing Piastri with himself.
Alex Albon parodied it in his extension with Williams that was announced today.

https://twitter.com/alex_albon/status/1554829547006111749
(Piastri took it in stride.)
Quote from: Rothman on July 15, 2021, 07:52:59 AM
Olive Garden must be stopped.  I must stop them.

Don't @ me. Seriously.

7/8


7/8

The CRB (Contract Recognition Board) has ruled that Oscar Piastri's 2-year contract with McLaren is valid, and therefore he will be racing for them in 2023/24.
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article.breaking-piastri-to-race-for-mclaren-in-2023-following-crb-decision.6jDE57LmqHCyrd7yKx1BLZ.html

So now the question is, will Ricciardo go back to Alpine, or will someone else take that spot?

NWI_Irish96

Verstappen previously locked up the driver's championship, and his win today at COTA won Red Bull the manufacturer's championship.

Sergio Perez looking to have the first top 3 championship finish ever for a Mexican, first for a North American since Jacques Villeneuve (CAN) in 1997, and first for a non-European since Daniel Riccardo (AUS) in 2016,
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Quote from: NWI_Irish96 on October 23, 2022, 05:00:01 PM
Verstappen previously locked up the driver's championship, and his win today at COTA won Red Bull the manufacturer's championship.

Sergio Perez looking to have the first top 3 championship finish ever for a Mexican, first for a North American since Jacques Villeneuve (CAN) in 1997, and first for a non-European since Daniel Riccardo (AUS) in 2016,

I was fortunate enough to have attended the US Grand Prix at COTA for the first time. It was a great weekend. Qualifying and the race were both great. Friday could've been better. The rookies and the tire testing in FP1 and FP2 respectively made the day more boring than it should have been.

Traffic logistics was a nightmare though. On Saturday and Sunday, it took over two hours from getting into the car to arriving back at our hotel. The police directing traffic had no idea what they were doing. They did not understand the idea of wasted "green time".

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Takumi

Logan Sargeant will race for Williams next year, marking the first American driver in F1 since Alex Rossi in 2015 (though Pietro Fittipaldi, who filled in for Romain Grosjean in 2020, is from Miami, he uses a Brazilian license due to his famous grandfather). Sargeant will use the number 2.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/sargeant-picks-permanent-race-number-for-rookie-f1-season/10406471/
Quote from: Rothman on July 15, 2021, 07:52:59 AM
Olive Garden must be stopped.  I must stop them.

Don't @ me. Seriously.

JoePCool14

Quote from: Takumi on November 30, 2022, 12:21:20 PM
Logan Sargeant will race for Williams next year, marking the first American driver in F1 since Alex Rossi in 2015 (though Pietro Fittipaldi, who filled in for Romain Grosjean in 2020, is from Miami, he uses a Brazilian license due to his famous grandfather). Sargeant will use the number 2.
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/sargeant-picks-permanent-race-number-for-rookie-f1-season/10406471/

Number 2, very interesting choice. It's the first time the grid will have cars 1 and 2 together since 2013. I'm really excited to see what Logan can do. It's not like the bar was very high compared to the gentleman he is replacing.

Lumping onto that, Oscar Piastri will race with number 81 for McLaren, according to this article: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/2023-f1-driver-race-numbers-who-uses-what-number-and-why/ar-AA14hkQP 81 is the highest permanent number in use at the moment.

Nyck De Vries has yet to announce his permanent number.

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Quote from: formulanone on May 06, 2022, 08:01:51 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 05, 2022, 07:01:30 PMPeople complained about having an F1 race in a car park in Las Vegas 40 years ago. We'll see how they react this time.
Sochi, Valencia, and Albert Park were/are similarly flat and use parking lots in their layout. I think there's just too many business owners and local folks who don't want the week-long disruption of closing downtown Miami.

Ironically, both F1 races at Caesar's Palace were title-deciders which gave decent racing.
I thought there was a problem with the asphalt melting, but am mistaken. It was obscenely hot, though, and run counter-clockwise, putting a lot of stress on drivers' necks.
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Quote from: Halian on December 03, 2022, 03:54:34 PM
Quote from: formulanone on May 06, 2022, 08:01:51 AM
Quote from: 1995hoo on May 05, 2022, 07:01:30 PMPeople complained about having an F1 race in a car park in Las Vegas 40 years ago. We'll see how they react this time.
Sochi, Valencia, and Albert Park were/are similarly flat and use parking lots in their layout. I think there's just too many business owners and local folks who don't want the week-long disruption of closing downtown Miami.

Ironically, both F1 races at Caesar's Palace were title-deciders which gave decent racing.
I thought there was a problem with the asphalt melting, but am mistaken. It was obscenely hot, though, and run counter-clockwise, putting a lot of stress on drivers' necks.

Dallas (Fair Park) had a problem with pavement breaking up, to the point where the drivers had to be careful. To this day, I think it remains the only time a weekend's lap record for a F1 event was not set by Grand Prix cars; the Can-Am series had a support race on Saturday in which the heavier cars pounded the pavement harder than expected. More than likely, the asphalt wasn't really "state highway grade" because it was a bunch support roads and parking lots around the Cotton Bowl. And since there wasn't a repeat in 1985, that oddball will probably stand to this day.

A quick re-read from Grand Prix! Vol.4 didn't explain any track breaking up, but plenty of tire marbling (which is a common sight today). Drivers didn't like the track and it was probably a physical nuisance to the drivers; it also beat the heck out of the cars' engines, suspensions, and monocoques after those long seasons in the days with tight budgets. Fortunately the 1983 regulations for flat-bottom cars and no ground effect rendered all those cars obsolete...

Seems like they got their act together for the asphalt grading in Miami. I wonder how well it will deal with drainage though, the stadium's parking lot has been known to flood, and they were lucky the Florida weather didn't get rainy that weekend. Maybe they've fixed it since I was last down there a decade ago.

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7/8

Alonso 2023 WDC confirmed? ;-) It would be really cool to see AM near top, we'll see how this weekend goes!




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