Quote from: hbelkins on November 05, 2021, 08:59:01 PM
What is your states (sic) most famous rout?
I'd say Kansas' 150-95 victory over Kentucky in Rick Pitino's first year at UK would qualify for both states involved
I'd add in the 2007 Kansas-Nebraska football game where we beat the Huskers 76-39. We had only beaten them once in the previous 38 meetings prior.
Chris
Quote from: hbelkins on November 05, 2021, 08:59:01 PM
What is your states (sic) most famous rout?
Ohio State 59, Wisconsin 0
Quote from: hbelkins on November 05, 2021, 08:59:01 PM
What is your states (sic) most famous rout?
Giants 41, Vikings 0 in 2000
Nebraska 84, Minnesota 13 in 1983
Quote from: hbelkins on November 05, 2021, 08:59:01 PM
What is your states (sic) most famous rout?
Not in Colorado, but my favorite NCAA team, Arizona, lost to Arizona State 70-7 in December of 2020.
What was the most embarrassing shutout (on either side) for a sports team in your state?
Inspired by hbelkins in "Changing one letter of a thread title."
Edit: Should this be in the Sports sub-topic?
Does it have to be a shutout? 106-7 is just as bad.
Whatever that 106-0 nothing beating some high school team in California put on another team is getting is a lot news locally.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/california-high-school-football-106-0-ucla-commit
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 08, 2021, 06:05:08 PM
Whatever that 106-0 nothing beating some high school team in California put on another team is getting is a lot news locally.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/california-high-school-football-106-0-ucla-commit
Ah, the typical outrage over sports teams playing sports. The only problem with running up the score is that you're probably risking injury to key players. If you can't handle losing, sometimes by a lot, then don't play.
For Indiana it would be Notre Dame's 35-13 upset of Army in 1913.
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Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 08, 2021, 06:05:08 PM
Whatever that 106-0 nothing beating some high school team in California put on another team is getting is a lot news locally.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/california-high-school-football-106-0-ucla-commit
Ah, the typical outrage over sports teams playing sports. The only problem with running up the score is that you're probably risking injury to key players. If you can't handle losing, sometimes by a lot, then don't play.
I mean, the other team can try to stop it or try to field a competive team.
Or you can try to raise kids who have compassion...
Chris
Quote from: jayhawkco on November 08, 2021, 06:37:29 PM
Or you can try to raise kids who have compassion...
Chris
I haven't read deeply into the story but it sounds like a charter school or something playing some other team that shouldn't even be in their league. Orchard Lake Saint Mary's was infamous for putting similar beatings on their competitors in Metro Detroit.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 08, 2021, 06:38:51 PM
Quote from: jayhawkco on November 08, 2021, 06:37:29 PM
Or you can try to raise kids who have compassion...
Chris
I haven't read deeply into the story but it sounds like a charter school or something playing some other team that shouldn't even be in their league.
Exactly. If you want to teach kids that competition isn't everything and that you should actually look out for other humans who may or may not be anything like you, that teaching needs to come from the adults. I'm super competitive when I play games. I was super competitive when I played sports. I never wanted my opponents to feel humiliated, merely that they didn't win this time. Disappointment will happen. Humiliation for amateur kids shouldn't.
Chris
Quote from: jayhawkco on November 08, 2021, 06:44:33 PM
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Quote from: jayhawkco on November 08, 2021, 06:37:29 PM
Or you can try to raise kids who have compassion...
Chris
I haven't read deeply into the story but it sounds like a charter school or something playing some other team that shouldn't even be in their league.
Exactly. If you want to teach kids that competition isn't everything and that you should actually look out for other humans who may or may not be anything like you, that teaching needs to come from the adults. I'm super competitive when I play games. I was super competitive when I played sports. I never wanted my opponents to feel humiliated, merely that they didn't win this time. Disappointment will happen. Humiliation for amateur kids shouldn't.
Chris
Really I would toss that back more at the adults setting up who plays who versus the competitors on the field. The people pulling the strings ought to be the ones not allowing such an uncompetitive match up to begin with. I'm to understand that the QB for the winning team is a highly touted college recruit. Athletes of that caliber usually are pretty ruthless unless restrained or put in front of proper competition.
Probably 222-0, which was achieved by Georgia Tech football against a school that wasn't fielding a real football team.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 08, 2021, 06:47:28 PM
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Or you can try to raise kids who have compassion...
Chris
I haven't read deeply into the story but it sounds like a charter school or something playing some other team that shouldn't even be in their league.
Exactly. If you want to teach kids that competition isn't everything and that you should actually look out for other humans who may or may not be anything like you, that teaching needs to come from the adults. I'm super competitive when I play games. I was super competitive when I played sports. I never wanted my opponents to feel humiliated, merely that they didn't win this time. Disappointment will happen. Humiliation for amateur kids shouldn't.
Chris
Really I would toss that back more at the adults setting up who plays who versus the competitors on the field. The people pulling the strings ought to be the ones not allowing such an uncompetitive match up to begin with. I'm to understand that the QB for the winning team is a highly touted college recruit. Athletes of that caliber usually are pretty ruthless unless restrained or put in front of proper competition.
Yeah. And bluntly, fuck all of those people who were in charge. You can think something is good on paper but if you can't figure out what went wrong in real time, you shouldn't be in charge of those decisions.
Chris
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 08, 2021, 06:47:28 PM
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Or you can try to raise kids who have compassion...
Chris
I haven't read deeply into the story but it sounds like a charter school or something playing some other team that shouldn't even be in their league.
Exactly. If you want to teach kids that competition isn't everything and that you should actually look out for other humans who may or may not be anything like you, that teaching needs to come from the adults. I'm super competitive when I play games. I was super competitive when I played sports. I never wanted my opponents to feel humiliated, merely that they didn't win this time. Disappointment will happen. Humiliation for amateur kids shouldn't.
Chris
Really I would toss that back more at the adults setting up who plays who versus the competitors on the field. The people pulling the strings ought to be the ones not allowing such an uncompetitive match up to begin with. I'm to understand that the QB for the winning team is a highly touted college recruit. Athletes of that caliber usually are pretty ruthless unless restrained or put in front of proper competition.
Well these two schools are presumably in the same conference, as they're both Inglewood high schools. So they have to play each other every year. Maybe that matchup has been competitive in past years, and Inglewood is uncharacteristically great this year while Morningside is uncharacteristically bad.
Every week by whatever UMass decides to lose by...
Quote from: SectorZ on November 08, 2021, 08:17:49 PM
Every week by whatever UMass decides to lose by...
https://www.umass.edu/news/article/umass-hockey-wins-national-championship
Bears 73, Redskins 0
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/194012080was.htm
Quote from: jlam on November 08, 2021, 05:47:08 PM
What was the most embarrassing shutout (on either side) for a sports team in your state?
Inspired by hbelkins in "Changing one letter of a thread title."
Edit: Should this be in the Sports sub-topic?
The Steelers' 1989 season opener, where they lost to the Browns (at home) 51-0.
Favorable: Whalers 11 Oilers 0, 2/12/84. The Oilers didn't have Gretzky or Kurri that day. 4 goals for Ron Francis. Oilers would go on to win their first Cup that year.
Unfavorable (for now): Duke 101 UConn 54. 1964 Elite 8. Ask me again Sunday after the UConn-Clemson football game :)
I posted mine for Minnesota in the other thread already.
Texas's might be the only one to actually have "rout" in the name, a 66-3 UT loss to UCLA in 1997 that became known as "Rout 66" in college football annals.
Possibly the Jets over Colts in 2002, 41-0 while I was at my friend's wedding. That's the only one that comes to mind in any sport in my memory.
From the southern side of the rivalry; 50-14, 1968...
QuoteIn the 1968 game, Ohio State won 50—14, outscoring its foe 29—0 in the second half and attempting an unsuccessful two-point conversion attempt on its final touchdown. In the post-game interview Hayes was asked why he went for two points with an already insurmountable 50—14 lead and he replied, "because they wouldn't let me go for three".
From the northern side of the rivalry; 86-0, 1902
My Northern California memory would go to Super Bowl XXIV in 1990 - 49ers 55-10 over the Broncos. Not the biggest point margin by a long shot, but the biggest ever in the Super Bowl, and put up against a Hall of Fame QB.
For Colorado, it's gotta be Super Bowl XXII where the Broncos lost to Washington 42-10.
Chris
I think for Massachusetts, the 28-3 Super Bowl is more famous than any college games. The difference with this one is that there were two routs in a single game: the Falcons until hitting 28-3 and the Patriots afterward.
Wisconsin 70, Nebraska 31 in the 2012 B1G championship game. Badgers were only 8-5 that year, without their starting QB, Bret Beilema had one foot out the door, and everyone picked Nebraska to win.
Has to be a certain NCAA Tournament first-round game in 2018 involving a #1 seed and a #16 seed. I'd say things turned out pretty well a year later, though.
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 09, 2021, 10:43:58 AM
Has to be a certain NCAA Tournament first-round game in 2018 involving a #1 seed and a #16 seed. I'd say things turned out pretty well a year later, though.
And it's not a rout, but the other most famous game for your state (and school) is probably Ralph Sampson getting upset by Chaminade. Brutal luck with two of your most famous moments being massive upsets.
Chris
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Has to be a certain NCAA Tournament first-round game in 2018 involving a #1 seed and a #16 seed. I'd say things turned out pretty well a year later, though.
And it's not a rout, but the other most famous game for your state (and school) is probably Ralph Sampson getting upset by Chaminade. Brutal luck with two of your most famous moments being massive upsets.
Chris
Ehhh, it's not that big a deal. It stunk at the time, but so what? The people who like to go on the most about that are affiliated with a certain institution that has never won a single NCAA team championship in any sport.
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Has to be a certain NCAA Tournament first-round game in 2018 involving a #1 seed and a #16 seed. I'd say things turned out pretty well a year later, though.
And it's not a rout, but the other most famous game for your state (and school) is probably Ralph Sampson getting upset by Chaminade. Brutal luck with two of your most famous moments being massive upsets.
Chris
Ehhh, it's not that big a deal. It stunk at the time, but so what? The people who like to go on the most about that are affiliated with a certain institution that has never won a single NCAA team championship in any sport.
Sure, but coming from a fan of a school that has been known to choke a couple times here and there in the tournament (Arizona, VCU, Rhode Island, UTEP, Bucknell, Bradley, etc.), it's more just bizarre that arguably the two most famous upsets in college basketball history are both against UVa. Not trying to rub salt in the wounds, just noticing the weird coincidence.
Chris
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Quote from: 1995hoo on November 09, 2021, 10:43:58 AM
Has to be a certain NCAA Tournament first-round game in 2018 involving a #1 seed and a #16 seed. I'd say things turned out pretty well a year later, though.
And it's not a rout, but the other most famous game for your state (and school) is probably Ralph Sampson getting upset by Chaminade. Brutal luck with two of your most famous moments being massive upsets.
Chris
Ehhh, it's not that big a deal. It stunk at the time, but so what? The people who like to go on the most about that are affiliated with a certain institution that has never won a single NCAA team championship in any sport.
Sure, but coming from a fan of a school that has been known to choke a couple times here and there in the tournament (Arizona, VCU, Rhode Island, UTEP, Bucknell, Bradley, etc.), it's more just bizarre that arguably the two most famous upsets in college basketball history are both against UVa. Not trying to rub salt in the wounds, just noticing the weird coincidence.
Chris
The Chaminade game was well before my time anyway and I don't remember it. That was in December 1982. About the only sport I watched at the time was pro football. The Redskins won the Super Bowl that season, although I think I first got into watching that a couple of weeks later during the playoffs when everyone at school went nuts. I hadn't watched a lot of sports before then–we went to the occasional Washington Diplomats soccer game at RFK, and if you count the Harlem Globetrotters as a "sports event" (questionable, IMO) we saw them play a few times at the Capital Centre. But that was it. I didn't really watch much sports on TV until the Redskins' playoff run that year.
As for the other....well, I'd say they made up for it the next year.
2 words: Appalachian State
Indiana State 90 Indiana University 69 in Archie Miller's first game, and believe it or not the final score looks better than what the game actually was. He never recovered from that beat down. :-D
Quote from: GaryV on November 09, 2021, 02:34:16 PM
2 words: Appalachian State
Ah yes, the rout with a final score of 34-32
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2 words: Appalachian State
Ah yes, the rout with a final score of 34-32
If I recall correct both UofM and Appalachian State ended up ranked in the top 25 at years end.
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2 words: Appalachian State
Ah yes, the rout with a final score of 34-32
If I recall correct both UofM and Appalachian State ended up ranked in the top 25 at years end.
I don't remember if Appy State was actually offered a Bowl Bid, but I remember talk of whether an FCS/I-AA team can even be offered a bowl bid. The AP Poll changed their rules to allow FCS teams to be eligible for the poll, specifically because of the Appy upset over Michigan
In Oregon the best routs in favor of the team from here would be:
1-OSU 41 Notre Dame 9 (Fiesta Bowl)
2-Portland State 105 Delaware State 0 (Neil Lomax threw 7 TD passes in the 1st quarter)
3-Oregon on multiple occasions killing the other team completely
Rick
Blowouts are supposed to give teams the opportunity to get reserves some playing time. It's good if you have younger players that are coming up through the ranks, or need to make a backup better prepared in case the starter gets injured. That doesn't always happen, though, especially if one team's coach doesn't like the other team's coach. Steve Spurrier used to be notorious for that when he coached Florida.
When I was a reporter covering the local high school basketball team years ago, they had one of the top teams in the state and were routinely blowing people out. The starting five was five seniors. Very often, the starters were done after three quarters, or would come out with six or four minutes left in the game in favor of the reserves. It helped get the reserves ready for the next season. They started off with a bang and won their first six games, then there was some upheaval on the team and a few players quit over playing time issues and because they didn't like the offense the coach was running. They only won three games the rest of the year.
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Or you can try to raise kids who have compassion...
Chris
I haven't read deeply into the story but it sounds like a charter school or something playing some other team that shouldn't even be in their league.
Exactly. If you want to teach kids that competition isn't everything and that you should actually look out for other humans who may or may not be anything like you, that teaching needs to come from the adults. I'm super competitive when I play games. I was super competitive when I played sports. I never wanted my opponents to feel humiliated, merely that they didn't win this time. Disappointment will happen. Humiliation for amateur kids shouldn't.
Chris
I've been on both sides of this story, many times each. On the winning side, I never want to stop scoring, I want to beat the other team as hilariously bad as possible. When playing it's not my job to care for their feelings. On the losing side, it sucks, but I will never hold a grudge against a team that wants to "humiliate" us. When playing it's not their job to care for my feelings.
I was part of a pretty good high school team that often won games by 30+ points. We always put our second string in at that point and agreed to a running clock for the remainder of the game. However, one time right before halftime an opposing player hit our QB in the head, then kicked him when he was on the ground. The refs threw a flag, but for whatever reason didn't eject him. Our coach went to their locker room and insisted that the coach leave that player in the locker room for the second half. He refused, and we scored 40 points in the 3rd quarter, going for two after each touchdown, onside kicking once, and calling a timeout to get the 5th touchdown before the end of the quarter. The opposing coach finally decided to send the offending player to the locker room and the 4th quarter was played with a running clock and no scoring.
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Or you can try to raise kids who have compassion...
Chris
I haven't read deeply into the story but it sounds like a charter school or something playing some other team that shouldn't even be in their league.
Exactly. If you want to teach kids that competition isn't everything and that you should actually look out for other humans who may or may not be anything like you, that teaching needs to come from the adults. I'm super competitive when I play games. I was super competitive when I played sports. I never wanted my opponents to feel humiliated, merely that they didn't win this time. Disappointment will happen. Humiliation for amateur kids shouldn't.
Chris
I've been on both sides of this story, many times each. On the winning side, I never want to stop scoring, I want to beat the other team as hilariously bad as possible. When playing it's not my job to care for their feelings. On the losing side, it sucks, but I will never hold a grudge against a team that wants to "humiliate" us. When playing it's not their job to care for my feelings.
I was part of a pretty good high school team that often won games by 30+ points. We always put our second string in at that point and agreed to a running clock for the remainder of the game. However, one time right before halftime an opposing player hit our QB in the head, then kicked him when he was on the ground. The refs threw a flag, but for whatever reason didn't eject him. Our coach went to their locker room and insisted that the coach leave that player in the locker room for the second half. He refused, and we scored 40 points in the 3rd quarter, going for two after each touchdown, onside kicking once, and calling a timeout to get the 5th touchdown before the end of the quarter. The opposing coach finally decided to send the offending player to the locker room and the 4th quarter was played with a running clock and no scoring.
That's an awesome story.
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Or you can try to raise kids who have compassion...
Chris
I haven't read deeply into the story but it sounds like a charter school or something playing some other team that shouldn't even be in their league.
Exactly. If you want to teach kids that competition isn't everything and that you should actually look out for other humans who may or may not be anything like you, that teaching needs to come from the adults. I'm super competitive when I play games. I was super competitive when I played sports. I never wanted my opponents to feel humiliated, merely that they didn't win this time. Disappointment will happen. Humiliation for amateur kids shouldn't.
Chris
I've been on both sides of this story, many times each. On the winning side, I never want to stop scoring, I want to beat the other team as hilariously bad as possible. When playing it's not my job to care for their feelings. On the losing side, it sucks, but I will never hold a grudge against a team that wants to "humiliate" us. When playing it's not their job to care for my feelings.
I was part of a pretty good high school team that often won games by 30+ points. We always put our second string in at that point and agreed to a running clock for the remainder of the game. However, one time right before halftime an opposing player hit our QB in the head, then kicked him when he was on the ground. The refs threw a flag, but for whatever reason didn't eject him. Our coach went to their locker room and insisted that the coach leave that player in the locker room for the second half. He refused, and we scored 40 points in the 3rd quarter, going for two after each touchdown, onside kicking once, and calling a timeout to get the 5th touchdown before the end of the quarter. The opposing coach finally decided to send the offending player to the locker room and the 4th quarter was played with a running clock and no scoring.
That's an awesome story.
I think a running clock is in the rules for Kentucky high school football now after a margin reaches a certain level. There's also a mercy rule for baseball if a margin reaches a certain level.
In the above story, the coach of the offending player should have taken him out of the game for his own safety, lest he be retaliated against.
Possibly the Red Sox blowing out the Yankees in game 7 2004 to come back from down 3-0 to win the ALCS.
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Every week by whatever UMass decides to lose by...
Can't believe we lost to FCS Rhode Island and Maine by double-digits :banghead:
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Every week by whatever UMass decides to lose by...
Can't believe we lost to FCS Rhode Island and Maine by double-digits :banghead:
UMass' football team doesn't exactly have a storied history...
MA's might be the Patriots 59, Titans 0 in the snow at Foxboro in 2009.
Pats 45, Colts 7 in the 2014 AFC title game for what came out of that game in the offseason.
:-(
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Every week by whatever UMass decides to lose by...
Can't believe we lost to FCS Rhode Island and Maine by double-digits :banghead:
UMass' football team doesn't exactly have a storied history...
They did win an FCS (then 1-AA) Championship in 1998. Plus they beat UConn this season, so they're not the worst team in FBS.
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Every week by whatever UMass decides to lose by...
Can't believe we lost to FCS Rhode Island and Maine by double-digits :banghead:
UMass' football team doesn't exactly have a storied history...
They did win an FCS (then 1-AA) Championship in 1998. Plus they beat UConn this season, so they're not the worst team in FBS.
So...23 years ago.
I believe the worst (or one of the worst) FBS teams would be Arizona. They are 1-6 in their conference (1-9 overall) and their lone win came against UC Berkeley, another awful team.
Quote from: jlam on November 16, 2021, 10:46:16 AM
I believe the worst (or one of the worst) FBS teams would be Arizona. They are 1-6 in their conference (1-9 overall) and their lone win came against UC Berkeley, another awful team.
To be fair, Cal was missing seven starters (including their QB), nearly 20 of their bench players, and four coaches due to COVID - the Cal-USC game was postponed for this reason. They likely would have been 3-3 in conference and 4-5 overall - mediocre, to be sure, but not awful.
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I believe the worst (or one of the worst) FBS teams would be Arizona. They are 1-6 in their conference (1-9 overall) and their lone win came against UC Berkeley, another awful team.
Arizona is probably the worst Power 5 team, but several non-power 5 teams are worse, with UConn possibly the worst. They lost to a UMass team that got blown out by FCS Maine, and UConn's only win was against Ivy League Yale.
Looks like the state of Michigan's most famous rout is going on right now.
Quote from: thspfc on November 20, 2021, 01:30:33 PM
Looks like the state of Michigan's most famous rout is going on right now.
Only for a few people around the east side of the capital.
Some other Michigan references off the top of my head:
Lions 59, Browns 14 in the 1957 NFL Championship. Perhaps the last time the Lions franchise was truly relevant.
Tigers 16, White Sox 0 on April 18, 1991, in the inaugural game at the "new" Comiskey Park. Way to wreck a housewarming party.
Two for the Red Wings, both involving Patrick Roy:
1) December 2, 1995 - Red Wings 11, Canadiens 1; notable for Montreal coach Mario Tremblay hanging Roy out to dry for nine goals, resulting in Roy telling the GM that he'd never play for Montreal again. He was traded to the Colorado Avalanche soon after (you're welcome, Avs fans).
2) May 31, 2002 (Game 7 of Western Semi-Final) - Red Wings 7, Avalanche 0; Roy, who seemed to have a personal vendetta against the Red Wings and was a thorn in their hide ever since the 1995 debacle in Montreal, was public enemy #1 to Detroit hockey fans. This game exorcised the Wings' demon.
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Some other Michigan references off the top of my head:
Lions 59, Browns 14 in the 1957 NFL Championship. Perhaps the last time the Lions franchise was truly relevant.
Tigers 16, White Sox 0 on April 18, 1991, in the inaugural game at the "new" Comiskey Park. Way to wreck a housewarming party.
Two for the Red Wings, both involving Patrick Roy:
1) December 2, 1995 - Red Wings 11, Canadiens 1; notable for Montreal coach Mario Tremblay hanging Roy out to dry for nine goals, resulting in Roy telling the GM that he'd never play for Montreal again. He was traded to the Colorado Avalanche soon after (you're welcome, Avs fans).
2) May 31, 2002 (Game 7 of Western Semi-Final) - Red Wings 7, Avalanche 0; Roy, who seemed to have a personal vendetta against the Red Wings and was a thorn in their hide ever since the 1995 debacle in Montreal, was public enemy #1 to Detroit hockey fans. This game exorcised the Wings' demon.
I'd argue game four of the 1996-97 western conference finals was where the Red Wings exercised the demons of the Colorado Avalanche and Patrick Roy when they won 6-0. Granted game five was the exact reverse (6-0 Avalanche) but the Red Wings won the series 4-2 and went onto win the Stanley Cup.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 22, 2021, 07:21:14 PM
I'd argue game four of the 1996-97 western conference finals was where the Red Wings exercised the demons of the Colorado Avalanche and Patrick Roy when they won 6-0. Granted game five was the exact reverse (6-0 Avalanche) but the Red Wings won the series 4-2 and went onto win the Stanley Cup.
Very true, ending the 42-year drought in "˜97 was a huge moment in Red Wings history. But Roy and the Avs eliminated the Red Wings in the second round of the playoffs in both 1999 and 2000, and the Avs usually got the better of the Wings in their regular season meetings. Roy definitely was in the heads of Wings fans during that era.
Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 22, 2021, 09:59:07 PM
Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.
Yes, because MJ was known for being such a classy guy himself. The Pistons sure got away with pushing the Bulls around far longer than any other NBA team.
For what it's worth Michael Jordan is by far the greatest NBA player I've ever seen. That probably ought to say something from someone who is a life long Pistons fan. Lebron James, Steph Curry and Kobe Bryant aren't on the same level as MJ was.
For SoCal, I would nominate the ND-USC 1974 game. The Irish led 24-0. USC scored a TD just before halftime to make it 24-6, then rattled off 49 points to win 55-24. This game made up for ND wiping the Trojans off the map 51-0 in 1966.
Rick
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 22, 2021, 09:59:07 PM
Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.
Give me the 17/18 Warriors over the 90/91 Bulls by at least 20 points. Superior physical conditioning and far superior three point shooting.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 22, 2021, 10:03:58 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 22, 2021, 09:59:07 PM
Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.
Yes, because MJ was known for being such a classy guy himself. The Pistons sure got away with pushing the Bulls around far longer than any other NBA team.
For what it's worth Michael Jordan is by far the greatest NBA player I've ever seen. That probably ought to say something from someone who is a life long Pistons fan. Lebron James, Steph Curry and Kobe Bryant aren't on the same level as MJ was.
I respect the opinion that MJ is the GOAT basketball player; I do not respect the opinion that MJ is the GOAT team sport athlete. Brady is already past him and his career isn't even over.
Quote from: thspfc on November 23, 2021, 12:24:47 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 22, 2021, 09:59:07 PM
Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.
Give me the 17/18 Warriors over the 90/91 Bulls by at least 20 points. Superior physical conditioning and far superior three point shooting.
This is why it's tough to have matchups like this (the '72 Dolphins vs. '85 Bears, etc.). The game changed so much in 25 years both on and off the court.
Quote from: thspfc on November 23, 2021, 12:24:47 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 22, 2021, 09:59:07 PM
Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.
Give me the 17/18 Warriors over the 90/91 Bulls by at least 20 points. Superior physical conditioning and far superior three point shooting.
In any sport the most recent champions are going to be far superior to a champion from 20+ years ago due to generational improvements in physical conditioning.
So you can use the literal definition of greatest, which leads to default answers in every situation and is not at all interesting, or you can use the more commonly accepted definition of greatest, which compares teams relative to their own time period, in which case the 1990-98 Bulls only have competition from the old Celtics.
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 23, 2021, 01:56:07 PM
Quote from: thspfc on November 23, 2021, 12:24:47 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 22, 2021, 09:59:07 PM
Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.
Give me the 17/18 Warriors over the 90/91 Bulls by at least 20 points. Superior physical conditioning and far superior three point shooting.
In any sport the most recent champions are going to be far superior to a champion from 20+ years ago due to generational improvements in physical conditioning.
So you can use the literal definition of greatest, which leads to default answers in every situation and is not at all interesting, or you can use the more commonly accepted definition of greatest, which compares teams relative to their own time period, in which case the 1990-98 Bulls only have competition from the old Celtics.
That's fair. For the 90/91 Bulls - "Greatest" , sure. "Best" , nope.
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 22, 2021, 09:59:07 PM
Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.
When did they face the Dream Team?
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 23, 2021, 06:49:32 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 22, 2021, 09:59:07 PM
Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.
When did they face the Dream Team?
Michael Jordan wouldn't have allowed the matchup out of spite toward Isiah Thomas. :biggrin:
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 23, 2021, 01:56:07 PM
Quote from: thspfc on November 23, 2021, 12:24:47 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 22, 2021, 09:59:07 PM
Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.
Give me the 17/18 Warriors over the 90/91 Bulls by at least 20 points. Superior physical conditioning and far superior three point shooting.
In any sport the most recent champions are going to be far superior to a champion from 20+ years ago due to generational improvements in physical conditioning.
So you can use the literal definition of greatest, which leads to default answers in every situation and is not at all interesting, or you can use the more commonly accepted definition of greatest, which compares teams relative to their own time period, in which case the 1990-98 Bulls only have competition from the old Celtics.
Not so sure about the latest always being superior. Lots of debate around here over who would win in a matchup between the 2012 and 1996 UK NCAA champion teams. Consensus is that the 1996 team would win because it was deeper, more experienced, in better physical condition because of Pitino's running/pressing style, and the fact that Pitino (one really bad defensive play call in 1992 nothwithstanding) was/is a better bench coach than Calipari.
Quote from: hbelkins on November 24, 2021, 12:12:44 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 23, 2021, 01:56:07 PM
Quote from: thspfc on November 23, 2021, 12:24:47 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 22, 2021, 09:59:07 PM
Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.
Give me the 17/18 Warriors over the 90/91 Bulls by at least 20 points. Superior physical conditioning and far superior three point shooting.
In any sport the most recent champions are going to be far superior to a champion from 20+ years ago due to generational improvements in physical conditioning.
So you can use the literal definition of greatest, which leads to default answers in every situation and is not at all interesting, or you can use the more commonly accepted definition of greatest, which compares teams relative to their own time period, in which case the 1990-98 Bulls only have competition from the old Celtics.
Not so sure about the latest always being superior. Lots of debate around here over who would win in a matchup between the 2012 and 1996 UK NCAA champion teams. Consensus is that the 1996 team would win because it was deeper, more experienced, in better physical condition because of Pitino's running/pressing style, and the fact that Pitino (one really bad defensive play call in 1992 nothwithstanding) was/is a better bench coach than Calipari.
Remember when the ref called Calipari for being out of the coach box during the UMass/UK Sweet 16 game in 1992 or 1993?
UMass remembers...
Quote from: hbelkins on November 24, 2021, 12:12:44 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 23, 2021, 01:56:07 PM
Quote from: thspfc on November 23, 2021, 12:24:47 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 22, 2021, 09:59:07 PM
Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.
Give me the 17/18 Warriors over the 90/91 Bulls by at least 20 points. Superior physical conditioning and far superior three point shooting.
In any sport the most recent champions are going to be far superior to a champion from 20+ years ago due to generational improvements in physical conditioning.
So you can use the literal definition of greatest, which leads to default answers in every situation and is not at all interesting, or you can use the more commonly accepted definition of greatest, which compares teams relative to their own time period, in which case the 1990-98 Bulls only have competition from the old Celtics.
Not so sure about the latest always being superior. Lots of debate around here over who would win in a matchup between the 2012 and 1996 UK NCAA champion teams. Consensus is that the 1996 team would win because it was deeper, more experienced, in better physical condition because of Pitino's running/pressing style, and the fact that Pitino (one really bad defensive play call in 1992 nothwithstanding) was/is a better bench coach than Calipari.
Sadly, I have a signed basketball right next to me from the KU 2012-13 team that ran into Anthony Davis, et al in the finals. Had that game gone another two minutes, I think we would have won.
Quote from: thspfc on November 23, 2021, 12:26:48 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 22, 2021, 10:03:58 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 22, 2021, 09:59:07 PM
Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.
Yes, because MJ was known for being such a classy guy himself. The Pistons sure got away with pushing the Bulls around far longer than any other NBA team.
For what it's worth Michael Jordan is by far the greatest NBA player I've ever seen. That probably ought to say something from someone who is a life long Pistons fan. Lebron James, Steph Curry and Kobe Bryant aren't on the same level as MJ was.
I respect the opinion that MJ is the GOAT basketball player; I do not respect the opinion that MJ is the GOAT team sport athlete. Brady is already past him and his career isn't even over.
Brady still has some work to do to surpass Gehrig (8 titles) & Joltin' Joe (9 titles).
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on November 24, 2021, 03:59:37 PM
Quote from: thspfc on November 23, 2021, 12:26:48 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 22, 2021, 10:03:58 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 22, 2021, 09:59:07 PM
Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.
Yes, because MJ was known for being such a classy guy himself. The Pistons sure got away with pushing the Bulls around far longer than any other NBA team.
For what it's worth Michael Jordan is by far the greatest NBA player I've ever seen. That probably ought to say something from someone who is a life long Pistons fan. Lebron James, Steph Curry and Kobe Bryant aren't on the same level as MJ was.
I respect the opinion that MJ is the GOAT basketball player; I do not respect the opinion that MJ is the GOAT team sport athlete. Brady is already past him and his career isn't even over.
Brady still has some work to do to surpass Gehrig (8 titles) & Joltin' Joe (9 titles).
An individual Basketball player (especially a great one) has far more impact on a team than that of a Quarterback or any football player. Basketball players have to play both offense and defense, rarely does that happen anymore in football. The comparison is kind of hard to make given both sports and the number of players on teams is so vastly different.
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on November 24, 2021, 03:59:37 PM
Brady still has some work to do to surpass Gehrig (8 titles) & Joltin' Joe (9 titles).
According to baseball-reference.com, Gehrig had "only" six WS titles ('27-'28, '32, '36-'38). DiMaggio did indeed have nine wins, which could have been 11 if the Yanks had beaten St. Louis in 1942 and if DiMaggio hadn't missed out on the Yanks' win in the '43 WS due to military service.
But they all still trail the all-time WS leader: Yogi Berra. 10 titles in a total of 14 appearances in the Fall Classic.
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on November 24, 2021, 03:59:37 PM
Quote from: thspfc on November 23, 2021, 12:26:48 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 22, 2021, 10:03:58 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 22, 2021, 09:59:07 PM
Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.
Yes, because MJ was known for being such a classy guy himself. The Pistons sure got away with pushing the Bulls around far longer than any other NBA team.
For what it's worth Michael Jordan is by far the greatest NBA player I've ever seen. That probably ought to say something from someone who is a life long Pistons fan. Lebron James, Steph Curry and Kobe Bryant aren't on the same level as MJ was.
I respect the opinion that MJ is the GOAT basketball player; I do not respect the opinion that MJ is the GOAT team sport athlete. Brady is already past him and his career isn't even over.
Brady still has some work to do to surpass Gehrig (8 titles) & Joltin' Joe (9 titles).
Those two were playing against plumbers and electricians.
Quote from: thspfc on November 24, 2021, 06:53:18 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on November 24, 2021, 03:59:37 PM
Quote from: thspfc on November 23, 2021, 12:26:48 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 22, 2021, 10:03:58 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 22, 2021, 09:59:07 PM
Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.
Yes, because MJ was known for being such a classy guy himself. The Pistons sure got away with pushing the Bulls around far longer than any other NBA team.
For what it's worth Michael Jordan is by far the greatest NBA player I've ever seen. That probably ought to say something from someone who is a life long Pistons fan. Lebron James, Steph Curry and Kobe Bryant aren't on the same level as MJ was.
I respect the opinion that MJ is the GOAT basketball player; I do not respect the opinion that MJ is the GOAT team sport athlete. Brady is already past him and his career isn't even over.
Brady still has some work to do to surpass Gehrig (8 titles) & Joltin' Joe (9 titles).
Those two were playing against plumbers and electricians.
Says the guy who hates black owned barbershops.
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on November 24, 2021, 10:03:28 PM
Quote from: thspfc on November 24, 2021, 06:53:18 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on November 24, 2021, 03:59:37 PM
Quote from: thspfc on November 23, 2021, 12:26:48 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 22, 2021, 10:03:58 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 22, 2021, 09:59:07 PM
Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.
Yes, because MJ was known for being such a classy guy himself. The Pistons sure got away with pushing the Bulls around far longer than any other NBA team.
For what it's worth Michael Jordan is by far the greatest NBA player I've ever seen. That probably ought to say something from someone who is a life long Pistons fan. Lebron James, Steph Curry and Kobe Bryant aren't on the same level as MJ was.
I respect the opinion that MJ is the GOAT basketball player; I do not respect the opinion that MJ is the GOAT team sport athlete. Brady is already past him and his career isn't even over.
Brady still has some work to do to surpass Gehrig (8 titles) & Joltin' Joe (9 titles).
Those two were playing against plumbers and electricians.
Says the guy who hates black owned barbershops.
Either you're joking, being heavily hyperbolic, or can't read.
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Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on November 24, 2021, 10:03:28 PM
Quote from: thspfc on November 24, 2021, 06:53:18 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on November 24, 2021, 03:59:37 PM
Quote from: thspfc on November 23, 2021, 12:26:48 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 22, 2021, 10:03:58 PM
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 22, 2021, 09:59:07 PM
Michigan's most famous rout was in 1991 and was a 4-0 series loss to the greatest basketball team ever assembled, after which the classless losers exhibited the ultimate lack of sportsmanship.
Yes, because MJ was known for being such a classy guy himself. The Pistons sure got away with pushing the Bulls around far longer than any other NBA team.
For what it's worth Michael Jordan is by far the greatest NBA player I've ever seen. That probably ought to say something from someone who is a life long Pistons fan. Lebron James, Steph Curry and Kobe Bryant aren't on the same level as MJ was.
I respect the opinion that MJ is the GOAT basketball player; I do not respect the opinion that MJ is the GOAT team sport athlete. Brady is already past him and his career isn't even over.
Brady still has some work to do to surpass Gehrig (8 titles) & Joltin' Joe (9 titles).
Those two were playing against plumbers and electricians.
Says the guy who hates black owned barbershops.
Either you're joking, being heavily hyperbolic, or can't read.
Unless someone is going to provide a specific citation with a link to this text, let's not go down this rabbit hole of argument plz
Quote from: vegas1962 on November 24, 2021, 05:05:33 PM
Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on November 24, 2021, 03:59:37 PM
Brady still has some work to do to surpass Gehrig (8 titles) & Joltin' Joe (9 titles).
According to baseball-reference.com, Gehrig had "only" six WS titles ('27-'28, '32, '36-'38). DiMaggio did indeed have nine wins, which could have been 11 if the Yanks had beaten St. Louis in 1942 and if DiMaggio hadn't missed out on the Yanks' win in the '43 WS due to military service.
But they all still trail the all-time WS leader: Yogi Berra. 10 titles in a total of 14 appearances in the Fall Classic.
Big difference is that Gehrig did it with only 16 teams in MLB. All but one of Brady's had 32 teams (the Texans hadn't debuted yet for his first one).
Probably Mississippi State losing 74-0 to Houston in 1969.
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on November 25, 2021, 11:27:39 PM
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Quote from: Hot Rod Hootenanny on November 24, 2021, 03:59:37 PM
Brady still has some work to do to surpass Gehrig (8 titles) & Joltin' Joe (9 titles).
According to baseball-reference.com, Gehrig had "only" six WS titles ('27-'28, '32, '36-'38). DiMaggio did indeed have nine wins, which could have been 11 if the Yanks had beaten St. Louis in 1942 and if DiMaggio hadn't missed out on the Yanks' win in the '43 WS due to military service.
But they all still trail the all-time WS leader: Yogi Berra. 10 titles in a total of 14 appearances in the Fall Classic.
Big difference is that Gehrig did it with only 16 teams in MLB. All but one of Brady's had 32 teams (the Texans hadn't debuted yet for his first one).
The record for most championships as a player in North American professional sports is held by Henri Richard (11 Stanley Cups) and Bill Russell (11 NBA championships). Of course, the NHL had six teams during Richard's era. I don't recall how many the NBA had, but Russell played during the era when the Celtics won eight straight championships (and 11 during his 13-year career).
Michigan first Rose Bowl appearance in 1902.
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 08, 2021, 06:24:15 PM
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Whatever that 106-0 nothing beating some high school team in California put on another team is getting is a lot news locally.
https://www.foxnews.com/sports/california-high-school-football-106-0-ucla-commit
Ah, the typical outrage over sports teams playing sports. The only problem with running up the score is that you're probably risking injury to key players. If you can't handle losing, sometimes by a lot, then don't play.
I mean, the other team can try to stop it or try to field a competive team.
I have revived several old thread here in the last week. That's what happens when you sign on to a website "some number of years" after it started. (I don't know what that "some number" is, which is why I wrote it that way).
One thing I have become aware of in recent years is that a top college team (e.g., Penn State) will schedule a "tomato can" opponent as a home game. The "tomato can" opponent gets paid handsomely, and the top college team gets another home game, and the revenue that comes with it. I'm not sure why anyone bothers going to games like that, but I am aware that for many people this serves as a social outing. As far as the top team is concerned, these games don't help with strength of schedule (but I don't know if that even matters).
As an alumni of the University of Delaware, this has happened several times in the last few years. They lost at Pittsburgh 62-0 a few years ago (2014), and they lost at Penn State 63-7 this past Sept. 9. Penn State also beat Massachusetts 63-0 last weekend.
But in researching this just now, I saw that Pittsburgh escaped 17-14 against Delaware in 2019. I do not live in Delaware anymore and was not aware of that.
Bulls 96, Jazz 54 (Game 3 of the 1998 NBA Finals)
(It's also the silver anniversary of the Last Dance season that was extensively documented on ESPN)
Quote from: Henry on October 17, 2023, 09:09:06 PM
Bulls 96, Jazz 54 (Game 3 of the 1998 NBA Finals)
(It's also the silver anniversary of the Last Dance season that was extensively documented on ESPN)
For Illinois I think it has to be Bears 73, (then) Redskins 0 in the 1940 NFL Championship game.
When my hometown Cavaliers got upset by #16 UMBC in 2018. We came back and won the entire March Madness in 2019.
Wahoowa!
Quote from: tchafe1978 on November 09, 2021, 10:22:42 AM
Wisconsin 70, Nebraska 31 in the 2012 B1G championship game. Badgers were only 8-5 that year, without their starting QB, Bret Beilema had one foot out the door, and everyone picked Nebraska to win.
Bret Bielema was notorious for running up the score at Wisconsin. He didn't do it at Arkansas.
Maryland 62, Howard 0 - NCAA football 2021 week 2.
For my school's state, Indiana:
Purdue football upsets Ohio State in 2018 - Purdue 49, Ohio State 20 at Ross-Ade Stadium
Purdue football upsets Michigan State in 2021 - Purdue 40, Michigan State 29 at Ross-Ade Stadium (I stormed the field for that one!)
For my home state, New Jersey (this is why it hurts to be a Boiler fan):
16-seeded Fairleigh Dickinson upsets 1-seeded Purdue in the first round of 2023 March Madness