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Re: Minor things that bother you
« Reply #6100 on: February 03, 2023, 04:45:59 PM »

^But it still takes longer to wash the dishes than hand washing. Unless I'm misinterpreting.

The one in my apartment typically takes a couple hours to run, which yeah is probably longer than it'd take to wash the dishes by hand, but it's so much less effort and time that I spend dealing with the dishes. I can go be productive in other ways while the dishwasher is running, or I can run it while I'm sleeping late at night.

These two points are the key. We usually put our dishwasher on "delay start" for when we're asleep so that we don't have to hear it running if we're watching TV or reading on the other side of our kitchen/family room space. But even if we ran it immediately, the idea that the dishwasher "takes longer" is somewhat misleading because using it frees up your time. When you wash dishes by hand, you're limited in what else you can do while you're doing that—I suppose you can turn on the TV (though I find it hard to concentrate on watching something and I have to turn up the volume because of when I turn on the water) or listen to music, but there's not a whole lot else you can do. So while from a hypertechnical standpoint the dishwasher itself might take longer depending on how much you have to wash, it's somewhat of an apples-to-oranges comparison because it doesn't account for what you can do with your time. You can go take a dump, for example, which you probably can't do while you wash dishes unless your living space has a very unusual arrangement. (I'm now visualizing the Seinfeld episode when Kramer turned his shower into a kitchen.)

(We normally set the dishwasher to "Air Dry" too. No reason to use the heated dry because we run it at night and the dishes can then air-dry in the dishwasher overnight. At most we have to dry off the bases of upside-down top-rack stuff like coffee mugs or bowls.)
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Re: Minor things that bother you
« Reply #6101 on: February 03, 2023, 04:55:34 PM »

I certainly have trouble believing that a dishwasher uses less water than washing dishes by hand.

https://www.cnet.com/home/kitchen-and-household/how-much-water-do-dishwashers-use/

"Getting them clean in the sink can use up to 27 gallons of water per load. An Energy Star certified dishwasher can use as little as 3 gallons per load"
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Re: Minor things that bother you
« Reply #6102 on: February 03, 2023, 05:30:55 PM »

One of the things I did two years ago was get some 7.5" Round White Plates. This got my mother unhappy because I was "wasting money", but later saw the value. Smaller plates meant more room for plates, especially when microwaving small items. I usually wait with dishwashing until I'm out of plates, cutlery, or pet food bowls, then do it at night. It takes 3˝ hours to do a load, and I end up emptying the dishwasher when I wake up at 2:30 AM. (damn those six years of being on overnight).
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Re: Minor things that bother you
« Reply #6103 on: February 03, 2023, 07:04:24 PM »

There's also the issue of volume.  I can only hand wash so much at once due to limited drying room.  Plus the soap only lasts so long before the sponge has mostly water.  I'm probably not doing it right (I put some soap on either my spatula or a plate depending on whether I'm using the dishwasher for most things or not; I always have to handwash some because the frying pan I use for eggs is non-stick and I need both it and the spatula everyday anyways; and then I just re-use the now soapy sponge until I'm done), but that's what happens when you teach yourself with no reference.

If the dishwasher is not actively being used for its intended purpose, it is basically just a huge drying rack.

I certainly have trouble believing that a dishwasher uses less water than washing dishes by hand.

https://www.cnet.com/home/kitchen-and-household/how-much-water-do-dishwashers-use/

"Getting them clean in the sink can use up to 27 gallons of water per load. An Energy Star certified dishwasher can use as little as 3 gallons per load"

For those wondering how this is possible, it's because instead of going through the rinse cycle with water fresh from the tap (as is your only choice when washing by hand), it recirculates water through the machine.

^But it still takes longer to wash the dishes than hand washing. Unless I'm misinterpreting.

The only reason this would matter is if I need a specific dish (usually a cooking utensil or pan) right away. That's on me for not running the dishwasher right after using the pan, though. I'll let the sink fill with dirty dishes, then when I have a washer load, I'll just run it and walk away. I normally run it after all of the meals for the day are likely to be done.
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Re: Minor things that bother you
« Reply #6104 on: Today at 01:11:09 PM »

Today's minor thing:  files that have digital signatures attached, so file associations will not launch them for casual viewing.

Example:

001_DPBO0329-D-20-T00-EG00-GEN-EE01-J.pdf.p7m

instead of

001_DPBO0329-D-20-T00-EG00-GEN-EE01-J.pdf

This means I have to unpack compressed archives (if they come to me inside zips) and then fire up OpenSSL to strip off the signatures just so I can look at them.

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"C:\Program Files\OpenSSL-Win64\bin\openssl.exe" smime -inform DER -verify -in "001_DPBO0329-D-20-T00-EG00-GEN-EE01-J.pdf.p7m" -noverify -binary -out "001_DPBO0329-D-20-T00-EG00-GEN-EE01-J.pdf"
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Re: Minor things that bother you
« Reply #6105 on: Today at 01:49:53 PM »

The fact you can’t use certain characters in a file name like this one “/“ as the computer will refuse so dated files have to be 1-1-23 for January 1, 2023.
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Re: Minor things that bother you
« Reply #6106 on: Today at 02:22:36 PM »

The fact you can’t use certain characters in a file name like this one “/“ as the computer will refuse so dated files have to be 1-1-23 for January 1, 2023.

I would use hyphens, never slashes, to write the date anyway. But for purposes of dating a file, I find the ISO standard of year-month-day works better (e.g., 2023-02-08) because it forces Windows to sort properly if you sort by filename. If you use month-day-year, it'll sort all the Januarys (Januaries?) together regardless of year, then all the Februarys (Februaries?), etc.
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"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

 


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