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Title: Interstate 10 Stubs
Post by: Interstate 69 Fan on September 20, 2018, 02:15:46 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/place/I-10,+Brookshire,+TX+77423/@29.7804812,-95.9817231,16z/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x86413bd83abf3411:0x105dfb5fcbc306e2 (https://www.google.com/maps/place/I-10,+Brookshire,+TX+77423/@29.7804812,-95.9817231,16z/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x86413bd83abf3411:0x105dfb5fcbc306e2)

Anyone know what these were to be used for?
Title: Re: Interstate 10 Stubs
Post by: HazMatt on September 20, 2018, 02:28:18 PM
https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7804987,-95.9796025,3a,75y,330.57h,60.31t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sbivh1AZD2Y_jN-kTfuVwIA!2e0!5s20080201T000000!7i3328!8i1664 (https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7804987,-95.9796025,3a,75y,330.57h,60.31t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sbivh1AZD2Y_jN-kTfuVwIA!2e0!5s20080201T000000!7i3328!8i1664)

Old streetview shows a truck stop or something.
Title: Re: Interstate 10 Stubs
Post by: ski-man on September 20, 2018, 11:50:59 PM
It used to be a rest area/parking area.
Title: Re: Interstate 10 Stubs
Post by: Chris on September 21, 2018, 09:02:11 AM
Google Earth historical imagery reveals it used to be a rest area indeed:

(https://i.imgur.com/oQhD1XP.jpg)
Title: Re: Interstate 10 Stubs
Post by: FreewayDan on September 21, 2018, 11:00:35 PM
Quote from: Chris on September 21, 2018, 09:02:11 AM
Google Earth historical imagery reveals it used to be a rest area indeed:

(https://i.imgur.com/oQhD1XP.jpg)

Actually, both locations were each signed as a Picnic Area.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3608/3348872173_c4c939758b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/66VR2p)100B9471 (https://flic.kr/p/66VR2p) by Daniel (https://www.flickr.com/photos/22306412@N07/), on Flickr
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3467/3288897469_ab34537b0d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/61CsCM)100B1802 (https://flic.kr/p/61CsCM) by Daniel (https://www.flickr.com/photos/22306412@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Interstate 10 Stubs
Post by: DJStephens on September 22, 2018, 12:39:07 PM
Pulling into the high speed lane, at the last minute, to exit, to take a leak.   Maybe it worked in an earlier time, when drivers were more courteous, and attentive.   
Title: Re: Interstate 10 Stubs
Post by: In_Correct on September 25, 2018, 04:31:33 AM
Those are not unlike the Oklahoma Toll Roads, except there are no gas stations. I do not like exiting nor entering in the fast lane. It seems like those rest areas lasted 40 years before being eliminated. They were not replaced probably be cause it is not far from Houston.
Title: Re: Interstate 10 Stubs
Post by: djlynch on September 26, 2018, 12:34:11 AM
Quote from: FreewayDan on September 21, 2018, 11:00:35 PM
Actually, both locations were each signed as a Picnic Area.

I'm pretty sure there were bathrooms there back in the '90s, but they got taken out in the early '00s when TxDOT started either rebuilding or closing all the rest areas that dated back to the original interstate system construction.
Title: Re: Interstate 10 Stubs
Post by: Beltway on September 26, 2018, 06:19:42 AM
Quote from: djlynch on September 26, 2018, 12:34:11 AM
I'm pretty sure there were bathrooms there back in the '90s, but they got taken out in the early '00s when TxDOT started either rebuilding or closing all the rest areas that dated back to the original interstate system construction.

Was there a new rest area built within 50 miles that replaced the function of the one that was closed?
Title: Re: Interstate 10 Stubs
Post by: US 81 on September 26, 2018, 11:04:42 AM
it was a "brilliant" (!) idea to save money by being able to build one set of facilities in the center instead of two on either side. I remember they were not uncommon in the 1970's.
Title: Re: Interstate 10 Stubs
Post by: In_Correct on September 27, 2018, 02:43:05 PM
Quote from: Beltway on September 26, 2018, 06:19:42 AM
Quote from: djlynch on September 26, 2018, 12:34:11 AM
I'm pretty sure there were bathrooms there back in the '90s, but they got taken out in the early '00s when TxDOT started either rebuilding or closing all the rest areas that dated back to the original interstate system construction.

Was there a new rest area built within 50 miles that replaced the function of the one that was closed?

Yes.
Title: Re: Interstate 10 Stubs
Post by: Beltway on September 27, 2018, 02:51:50 PM
Quote from: In_Correct on September 27, 2018, 02:43:05 PM
Quote from: Beltway on September 26, 2018, 06:19:42 AM
Was there a new rest area built within 50 miles that replaced the function of the one that was closed?
Yes.

Then it makes sense to close the one in the median.  Left hand exits and entrances were acceptable highway engineering up to the 1970s, but have fallen out of favor for safety reasons and are removed whenever possible.
Title: Re: Interstate 10 Stubs
Post by: NE2 on September 27, 2018, 03:32:05 PM
Quote from: US 81 on September 26, 2018, 11:04:42 AM
it was a "brilliant" (!) idea to save money by being able to build one set of facilities in the center instead of two on either side. I remember they were not uncommon in the 1970's.
Not the case here; note the creek separating the two.
Title: Re: Interstate 10 Stubs
Post by: jlwm on September 27, 2018, 08:43:02 PM
Quote from: Beltway on September 26, 2018, 06:19:42 AM
Quote from: djlynch on September 26, 2018, 12:34:11 AM
I'm pretty sure there were bathrooms there back in the '90s, but they got taken out in the early '00s when TxDOT started either rebuilding or closing all the rest areas that dated back to the original interstate system construction.

Was there a new rest area built within 50 miles that replaced the function of the one that was closed?

The rest area in Colorado County was completely rebuilt a few years before the picnic area in Waller County closed. They're about 40 miles away from each other.
Title: Re: Interstate 10 Stubs
Post by: txstateends on September 28, 2018, 12:12:01 AM
Quote from: Beltway on September 27, 2018, 02:51:50 PM
Quote from: In_Correct on September 27, 2018, 02:43:05 PM
Quote from: Beltway on September 26, 2018, 06:19:42 AM
Was there a new rest area built within 50 miles that replaced the function of the one that was closed?
Yes.

Then it makes sense to close the one in the median.  Left hand exits and entrances were acceptable highway engineering up to the 1970s, but have fallen out of favor for safety reasons and are removed whenever possible.

Too bad they didn't get rid of the 2 left-hand exits at I-35E/I-635 when they redid I-635 in Dallas in the last few years.  Oh well.
Title: Re: Interstate 10 Stubs
Post by: Beltway on September 28, 2018, 12:31:46 AM
Quote from: txstateends on September 28, 2018, 12:12:01 AM
Quote from: Beltway on September 27, 2018, 02:51:50 PM
Then it makes sense to close the one in the median.  Left hand exits and entrances were acceptable highway engineering up to the 1970s, but have fallen out of favor for safety reasons and are removed whenever possible.
Too bad they didn't get rid of the 2 left-hand exits at I-35E/I-635 when they redid I-635 in Dallas in the last few years.  Oh well.

Given all the flyover bridges built and interrelationship with the toll express roadways on both highways, that looks like it would have been difficult as well as expensive.  Not saying that it shouldn't have been done, but someone made a judgment call there.
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