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Author Topic: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.  (Read 2852 times)

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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #25 on: January 25, 2024, 11:09:05 AM »

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"...If you don’t have an extra 14 minutes, then leave 14 minutes earlier.”

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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2024, 11:14:29 AM »


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"...If you don’t have an extra 14 minutes, then leave 14 minutes earlier.”

Whut?

Specifically...  if you don't have an extra 14 minutes...  then you can't leave 14 minutes earlier.

If you could, then, by definition, you have an extra 14 minutes.
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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2024, 11:14:48 PM »

The split between cars and truck speeds will cause problems. Up the speed limit, but up the truck speed limit as well. Everyone driving through Illinois or Ohio remembers how bad it was when trucks were 55 and cars were 65. Even when trucks would speed to 60-62, etc, you still had cars bottlenecking to get around them. Especially the ones being honest and going the limit.

Most states are getting away from the differential limits, and Indiana needs to as well if they want to up their speed limit higher.
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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #28 on: January 26, 2024, 01:30:38 AM »

Michigan has 75 mph cars and 65 mph trucks on some northern rural interstates and freeways, but your point still stands.

Regarding implantation of a 75 mph speed limit in general in Indiana, I could see it reasonable to start with a “pilot” project such as I-69 between I-64 and Bloomington, given it’s relatively newer and carries lower volumes.

Then the 75 mph speed limit could be “blanketed” across all the rural interstate highways in Indiana - which it should be. It shouldn’t be like Michigan did, but more like how Arkansas did.
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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #29 on: January 26, 2024, 02:11:04 PM »

While many trucks will indeed drive the higher speed limit, I should point out that other trucks will still cap their speed at something lower.  Therefore, the potential speed differential actually goes up regardless—it's just that the occurrence of it would be less frequent without split speed limits.
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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2024, 09:03:43 PM »

Personally, I am loving this possible jump to 75. Sometimes slow drivers get on my nerves.
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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2024, 10:02:28 AM »

I'm not opposed to an increase at all, but I would much rather see I-465 get raised to at least 65 before anything goes to 75. While it's nice to have the extra 5 mph, people already seem to understand how a 70 mph highway should move compared to the 55 mph I-465. Some people treat it like it's a 55 mph state route and others like a rural interstate. It should be a red flag when the 85th percentile speed is 17.5 mph above the limit.
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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2024, 10:41:26 AM »

I'm not opposed to an increase at all, but I would much rather see I-465 get raised to at least 65 before anything goes to 75. While it's nice to have the extra 5 mph, people already seem to understand how a 70 mph highway should move compared to the 55 mph I-465. Some people treat it like it's a 55 mph state route and others like a rural interstate. It should be a red flag when the 85th percentile speed is 17.5 mph above the limit.

Yeah. I-465 being as cramped as it is, Indianapolis's beltway needs a speed limit increase. It might be risky, once again bringing up that cramped remark, but it is needed.
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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2024, 10:41:34 AM »

Personally, I am loving this possible jump to 75. Sometimes slow drivers get on my nerves.

You might be disappointed to find out that slow drivers will still be slow drivers, no matter the speed limit.
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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2024, 10:45:15 AM »

Personally, I am loving this possible jump to 75. Sometimes slow drivers get on my nerves.

You might be disappointed to find out that slow drivers will still be slow drivers, no matter the speed limit.

I know that, but possible tickets for slow driving will be up by 5 mph. That will prevent slow drivers when interstates are running with little or no traffic jams
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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2024, 11:41:44 AM »

Well, there's nothing that will happen this year. The bill died in committee last week and is still that way.
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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2024, 11:48:17 AM »

Given this state is insistent on unrealistic speed limits - see I-465’s 55 mph, I-69’s 55 mph near Bloomington, 60 mph on rural divided highways….

I’m not one bit surprised.
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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2024, 01:40:04 PM »

Well, there's nothing that will happen this year. The bill died in committee last week and is still that way.

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(yes, I know that's the US Congress, not the IN Legislature)
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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #38 on: January 31, 2024, 10:09:33 AM »

Well, there's nothing that will happen this year. The bill died in committee last week and is still that way.

dang it.
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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #39 on: January 31, 2024, 11:39:03 AM »

Given this state is insistent on unrealistic speed limits - see I-465’s 55 mph, I-69’s 55 mph near Bloomington, 60 mph on rural divided highways….

I’m not one bit surprised.

My last time through Indy was at night and 465 between I-70 and the east side and wherever I was going to pick up I-74 seemed pretty congested to me, so I can see them wanting it to be 55. The way Google routes me sometimes is through the Lafayette Mall area to get to 74. There really needs to be a better way to connect to I-74 westbound coming from the east.
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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2024, 10:57:46 PM »

https://iga.in.gov/legislative/2024/bills/house/1308/details

They need to increase the speed limit of US-31 to 70mph from Michigan border to Indianapolis once they're done with removing all the traffic lights and adding interchanges.
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« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2024, 11:07:46 PM »

https://iga.in.gov/legislative/2024/bills/house/1308/details

They need to increase the speed limit of US-31 to 70mph from Michigan border to Indianapolis once they're done with removing all the traffic lights and adding interchanges.
Arguably, from a strict engineering standpoint, most of US-31 should be 70 mph. Unfortunately, because speed limits are politicized, they are capped at 60 mph by state law where not a freeway.
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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #42 on: February 22, 2024, 05:03:18 AM »

My Ford Edge MPG drops quite a bit going over 75 MPH is that normal?

I'd rather have routes like US 31 raised to 70 MPH.

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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #43 on: February 22, 2024, 06:58:41 AM »



My Ford Edge MPG drops quite a bit going over 75 MPH is that normal?


Painfully and obviously normal.
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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #44 on: February 22, 2024, 09:49:08 AM »

Well, there's nothing that will happen this year. The bill died in committee last week and is still that way.

dang it.
There's not much of an appetite for raising the speed limit to 75 mph in Indiana. ISP and INDOT are both staunchly opposed, and that carries a lot of weight with lawmakers.
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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #45 on: February 22, 2024, 12:55:27 PM »



My Ford Edge MPG drops quite a bit going over 75 MPH is that normal?


Painfully and obviously normal.
My wife's 2013 Edge can get around 30 MPG if we keep it at 60 or below.  If you get up to 70 it is making a quick journey towards the lower 20s, and might even hit 20 MPG on hilly roads.
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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #46 on: February 23, 2024, 09:24:39 PM »

700 miles @ 62 mph = 11 h 17 m
700 miles @ 67 mph = 10 h 27 m
700 miles @ 72 mph = 9 h 43 m
700 miles @ 77 mph = 9 h 5 m

Depending on the speed limit, speeding by just 5 mph over the limit can shave 45 minutes off the trip.
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And then there’s mileage—for my car it’s:
700 miles @ 55 mph (52 miles per gallon) = $43.75
700 miles @ 60 mph (48 miles per gallon) = $47.40
700 miles @ 65 mph (42 miles per gallon) = $54.17
700 miles @ 70 mph (37 miles per gallon) = $61.48
700 miles @ 75 mph (35 miles per gallon) = $65.00
700 miles @ 80 mph (31 miles per gallon) = $73.38
700 miles @ 85 mph (25 miles per gallon) = $91.00
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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #47 on: February 28, 2024, 01:25:52 PM »

Well, there's nothing that will happen this year. The bill died in committee last week and is still that way.
But in our General ASSembly, things are NEVER really "dead" until the session ends. Far too often, bills are declared dead by the media only to mysteriously reappear at then end of the session, inserted into an unrelated  "must pass" piece of legislation at the last second. Especially if a powerful donor wants them to be passed.
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Re: Indiana bill to raise speed limits. 70 to 75mph on rural interstates.
« Reply #48 on: February 29, 2024, 08:53:56 PM »

Well, there's nothing that will happen this year. The bill died in committee last week and is still that way.
But in our General ASSembly, things are NEVER really "dead" until the session ends. Far too often, bills are declared dead by the media only to mysteriously reappear at then end of the session, inserted into an unrelated  "must pass" piece of legislation at the last second. Especially if a powerful donor wants them to be passed.

Nah that is not how it works. Thats not how any of this works.
Indiana only runs the legislature in the first 2 or 3 months of the year, and there are deadlines in the session for the bills to ether be moved along, or be left behind and die.

Now.. there is a rarely used trick, you can Amend the text into another bill that is being moved along. But its rare here, and frowned upon. And even then, its too late to do that.. again.. deadlines. Session only has 15 more days.

Now I explained how it works here. When you want something passed but don't have the support. Like this does not have yet. You just keep introducing it each year, each year you keep "planting the seed" until you can round up enough support and get it through. During this time studies are usually created to look at the issue, which help.
The guy who introduced the bill verbatim said as much in his closing talk on the bill in committee.

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