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Started by FLRoads, January 20, 2009, 11:55:15 PM

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LM117

Closures at the I-440/Western Blvd interchange this weekend as part of the widening/improvements project.

https://www.ncdot.gov/news/press-releases/Pages/2021/2021-09-10-i-440-western-blvd-closures.aspx
“I don’t know whether to wind my ass or scratch my watch!” - Jim Cornette


cowboy_wilhelm

#4276
I noticed that Google has recently updated some of their Street View imagery around Wake County with imagery collected this summer. The latest imagery had been from 2018-2019. Good views of the major construction projects going on, like the I-40 widening, NC-540 extension, I-440 widening, and the East End Connector. The counties they listed for collection this year are: New Hanover, Pender, Brunswick, Columbus, Onslow, Halifax, Edgecombe, Nash, Wilson, Franklin, Wake, and Johnston. Durham isn't listed and there is imagery there, so may be updated in a few other places as well.

Edit: Apparently they were all over the state, because there is imagery from the Shelby Bypass in Cleveland County.

ARMOURERERIC

However, the images of the eastern part of the Shelby bypass are about 18 months out of date.

cowboy_wilhelm

Quote from: ARMOURERERIC on September 11, 2021, 08:41:31 AM
However, the images of the eastern part of the Shelby bypass are about 18 months out of date.

Some are showing up from 2021. Just have to click around a bit and check the date slider at the top. NC 18, NC 150, NC 180.

tolbs17

Quote from: cowboy_wilhelm on September 11, 2021, 08:52:31 AM
Quote from: ARMOURERERIC on September 11, 2021, 08:41:31 AM
However, the images of the eastern part of the Shelby bypass are about 18 months out of date.

Some are showing up from 2021. Just have to click around a bit and check the date slider at the top. NC 18, NC 150, NC 180.
Part of Wilson and the new highways as well. They seemed to not have captured the coastal cities like Wilmington and Kill Devil Hills. However, some are showing up in Greenville.

tolbs17

Quote from: fillup420 on July 10, 2021, 08:31:35 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 10, 2021, 06:34:14 PM
After going to Raleigh today... There are some damaged (and missing) signs.

Missing
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https://www.google.com/maps/@35.6011734,-77.5625291,3a,44.3y,175.7h,89.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYI6ptEtb9Lmr1b2iOol7bg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Damaged
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https://www.google.com/maps/@35.78953,-78.13873,3a,15y,130.59h,92.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJ8jZYhiRrzO1TeueMu5Mog!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8161024,-78.2473157,3a,75y,305.04h,93.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOtQMvjX29cTubF_FZ1gbAA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

i see no problems with any of those signs...
These will answer your question since the Street View has been updated.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.816057,-78.247064,3a,50.5y,301.73h,90.89t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHG9b6wqAeWHa8aQk3BETNA!2e0!5s20210601T000000!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7894788,-78.1384962,3a,75y,151.21h,92.91t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s8Y4vrgx4UL7Ibk8c-Nbe6w!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D8Y4vrgx4UL7Ibk8c-Nbe6w%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D152.09032%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.6014795,-77.5629357,3a,48.1y,141.8h,89.08t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sJYFO5ZoNFm5cbGw69M0vgQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DJYFO5ZoNFm5cbGw69M0vgQ%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D202.0736%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

Need to be replaced cause it can cause confusion

roadman65

https://goo.gl/maps/BodxtVSWGwxvCtVD6
Time for Google to update the images of US 17 in Wilmington.  The US Highway is no longer on the freeway in Wilmington.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

sprjus4

^ The imagery there is updated... you're linked to an older date.

Strider

Quote from: roadman65 on September 12, 2021, 07:01:44 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/BodxtVSWGwxvCtVD6
Time for Google to update the images of US 17 in Wilmington.  The US Highway is no longer on the freeway in Wilmington.

That link was old. Sprjus4 is right. The signage has been updated to include NC 140 WEST and greened out the word "BUSINESS" above US 17 SOUTH signage.

architect77

Quote from: tolbs17 on September 11, 2021, 09:00:10 PM
Quote from: fillup420 on July 10, 2021, 08:31:35 PM
Quote from: tolbs17 on July 10, 2021, 06:34:14 PM
After going to Raleigh today... There are some damaged (and missing) signs.

Missing
___________________

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.6011734,-77.5625291,3a,44.3y,175.7h,89.11t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sYI6ptEtb9Lmr1b2iOol7bg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Damaged
___________________

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.78953,-78.13873,3a,15y,130.59h,92.86t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJ8jZYhiRrzO1TeueMu5Mog!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.8161024,-78.2473157,3a,75y,305.04h,93.21t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sOtQMvjX29cTubF_FZ1gbAA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

i see no problems with any of those signs...
These will answer your question since the Street View has been updated.

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.816057,-78.247064,3a,50.5y,301.73h,90.89t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sHG9b6wqAeWHa8aQk3BETNA!2e0!5s20210601T000000!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.7894788,-78.1384962,3a,75y,151.21h,92.91t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1s8Y4vrgx4UL7Ibk8c-Nbe6w!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3D8Y4vrgx4UL7Ibk8c-Nbe6w%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D152.09032%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@35.6014795,-77.5629357,3a,48.1y,141.8h,89.08t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sJYFO5ZoNFm5cbGw69M0vgQ!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DJYFO5ZoNFm5cbGw69M0vgQ%26cb_client%3Dsearch.revgeo_and_fetch.gps%26w%3D96%26h%3D64%26yaw%3D202.0736%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

Need to be replaced cause it can cause confusion

That 264 sign has my home town on it. Though small its use as a control city keeps it in front of lots of eyes on the interstates and US highways alike. It's also the origin or end of 2 state highways 561, and 581 (technically a few miles east).

Alert the DOT that this is an urgent repair item.

roadman65

Quote from: Strider on September 12, 2021, 05:18:18 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on September 12, 2021, 07:01:44 AM
https://goo.gl/maps/BodxtVSWGwxvCtVD6
Time for Google to update the images of US 17 in Wilmington.  The US Highway is no longer on the freeway in Wilmington.

That link was old. Sprjus4 is right. The signage has been updated to include NC 140 WEST and greened out the word "BUSINESS" above US 17 SOUTH signage.

It was the default link that Google had me on when I went to the maps of the area.
Every day is a winding road, you just got to get used to it.

Sheryl Crowe

Love2drive

The widening project on interstate 40 between mile markers 180 and 182 is wrapping up.  The extra lanes are now open in that stretch. 

ARMOURERERIC

Quote from: Love2drive on September 13, 2021, 07:37:23 PM
The widening project on interstate 40 between mile markers 180 and 182 is wrapping up.  The extra lanes are now open in that stretch. 
Thus by extension, the new Yadkin River Bridge is complete as well?

Strider

Quote from: Love2drive on September 13, 2021, 07:37:23 PM
The widening project on interstate 40 between mile markers 180 and 182 is wrapping up.  The extra lanes are now open in that stretch.


Is it now 6 lanes or 8 lanes through that stretch towards Exit 180?

Love2drive

Quote from: ARMOURERERIC on September 13, 2021, 07:58:17 PM
Quote from: Love2drive on September 13, 2021, 07:37:23 PM
The widening project on interstate 40 between mile markers 180 and 182 is wrapping up.  The extra lanes are now open in that stretch. 
Thus by extension, the new Yadkin River Bridge is complete as well?

Yes indeed, and they added lighting around the interchanges as well.







Quote from: Strider on September 13, 2021, 08:06:25 PM
Quote from: Love2drive on September 13, 2021, 07:37:23 PM
The widening project on interstate 40 between mile markers 180 and 182 is wrapping up.  The extra lanes are now open in that stretch.


Is it now 6 lanes or 8 lanes through that stretch towards Exit 180?

Six lanes

Strider

Quote from: Strider on September 13, 2021, 08:06:25 PM
Quote from: Love2drive on September 13, 2021, 07:37:23 PM
The widening project on interstate 40 between mile markers 180 and 182 is wrapping up.  The extra lanes are now open in that stretch.


Is it now 6 lanes or 8 lanes through that stretch towards Exit 180?

Six lanes
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I will have to check it out one day. With I-40/I-77 interchange under construction in which I believe it will be 6 lanes on I-40, they should just extend the 6 laning of I-40 from Yadkin River Bridge to I-40/I-77 interchange area, IMO.

ARMOURERERIC

Traffic on 40 is so heavy that they need 6 lanes to exit 94 now and 8 between 121 and 130, and possibly 103 to 105

cowboy_wilhelm

Widening I-40 from Bermuda Run to Statesville would be overkill at this point as it's less than 40,000 AADT until you get to Statesville. There's more traffic on the other side from Statesville to Hickory, and from there to Morganton.

It's unfortunate that the current widening on I-40 at Statesville falls a bit short on the west side of the interchange since the lanes begin and end on the east side of Exit 150. They should have taken the opportunity to widen and improve to Exit 148. Those are some crappy and outdated interchanges. Nearly every bridge on I-40 between Hickory and Statesville lacks shoulders. Many of the ones between Morganton and Hickory are being replaced or are scheduled to be in the next several years. That has to be one of the oldest sections of I-40 in the state.

Last I saw, one section of the widening project in Hickory is still in the STIP, but scheduled for "post-year" and will probably be subjected to reprioritization. I think there is/was going to be a feasibility study for widening between US 64 in Morganton and Hickory, but I wouldn't expect that to happen in the next 30 years at the current rate we're going.

Nice view from Google of the huge fly-over under construction from I-40 WB to I-77 SB.

Strider

Quote from: cowboy_wilhelm on September 14, 2021, 08:23:24 AM
Widening I-40 from Bermuda Run to Statesville would be overkill at this point as it's less than 40,000 AADT until you get to Statesville. There's more traffic on the other side from Statesville to Hickory, and from there to Morganton.

It's unfortunate that the current widening on I-40 at Statesville falls a bit short on the west side of the interchange since the lanes begin and end on the east side of Exit 150. They should have taken the opportunity to widen and improve to Exit 148. Those are some crappy and outdated interchanges. Nearly every bridge on I-40 between Hickory and Statesville lacks shoulders. Many of the ones between Morganton and Hickory are being replaced or are scheduled to be in the next several years. That has to be one of the oldest sections of I-40 in the state.

Last I saw, one section of the widening project in Hickory is still in the STIP, but scheduled for "post-year" and will probably be subjected to reprioritization. I think there is/was going to be a feasibility study for widening between US 64 in Morganton and Hickory, but I wouldn't expect that to happen in the next 30 years at the current rate we're going.

Nice view from Google of the huge fly-over under construction from I-40 WB to I-77 SB.


Not overkill. It is to prepare for possibly increasing capacity in the long term. It is probably one of the last stretches to be widened anyways. But yeah I do agree that I-40 needs to be 6 laned from Statesville and going west towards Hickory area. Isn't I-40 scheduled to have the interchange with US 64 in Morganton rebuilt anytime soon?

RoadPelican

I-40 is slated to get widened to 6 lanes from Greensboro to Winston Salem but construction is not scheduled to start until 2027.  Number one priority for I-40 in NC is getting the widening done in Johnston County (under construction) then Orange and Durham Counties (should be done in 2025), then the triad and finally out west.

sprjus4

Both I-40 and US-421 (former Business 40) need to be 6 lanes between Winston-Salem and Greensboro with current traffic volumes.

Love2drive

I figure it varies from state to state, but is there a AADT you would look for before a highway needs 6 lanes?  8 Lanes?   I was looking at the AADT's from 2019, and some of the numbers surprised me. I was surprised to see the stretch of 40 between Hickory and Conover ranged from 58,000 to 68,000.   Interstate 40 through Winston Salem ranged from 98-128,000.   Not sure if there has been any talk of widening that stretch to 8 lanes.

froggie

There's far more variables than "whichever state you're in".  Things like truck percentage, directional distribution, hourly distribution, distance between interchanges, and many other factors.

ARMOURERERIC

40 is very saturated in truck percentage

LM117

Latest update regarding NCDOT's budget problems.

https://wr.al/1LRBT
“I don’t know whether to wind my ass or scratch my watch!” - Jim Cornette



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