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Grzrd

#325
Quote from: lordsutch on July 12, 2016, 11:28:36 PM
Quote from: TrevorB on July 12, 2016, 09:17:19 PM
Did some digging and found some I-269 MDOT signage plans.
Interesting. If nothing else it verifies that the I-22 interchange is supposed to be a complete interchange (so who knows what happened with the grading...).

Google Maps has updated its imagery in the Memphis area and the "missing" ramps are missing no more.*

*Although, at second glance, how to get from WB I-269 to NB I-22 and from NB I-22 to EB I-269?


wdcrft63

Quote from: Grzrd on August 20, 2016, 09:22:08 AM
Quote from: lordsutch on July 12, 2016, 11:28:36 PM
Quote from: TrevorB on July 12, 2016, 09:17:19 PM
Did some digging and found some I-269 MDOT signage plans.
Interesting. If nothing else it verifies that the I-22 interchange is supposed to be a complete interchange (so who knows what happened with the grading...).

Google Maps has updated its imagery in the Memphis area and the "missing" ramps are missing no more.*

*Although, at second glance, how to get from WB I-269 to NB I-22 and from NB I-22 to EB I-269?
Very strange; the plans clearly include these ramps, so where are they?

Various folks in this forum have called for routing I-22 concurrent with I-269 to reach I-55/I-69. This design rules that out, since it would require a high speed flyover from I-22 WB to I-269 WB.

NE2

Quote from: wdcrft63 on August 20, 2016, 04:44:09 PM
Various folks in this forum have called for routing I-22 concurrent with I-269 to reach I-55/I-69. This design rules that out, since it would require a high speed flyover from I-22 WB to I-269 WB.
Just like there's a flyover taking I-69 north onto I-55 north. Oh wait.
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Anthony_JK

Quote from: NE2 on August 20, 2016, 07:03:09 PM
Quote from: wdcrft63 on August 20, 2016, 04:44:09 PM
Various folks in this forum have called for routing I-22 concurrent with I-269 to reach I-55/I-69. This design rules that out, since it would require a high speed flyover from I-22 WB to I-269 WB.
Just like there's a flyover taking I-69 north onto I-55 north. Oh wait.

There actually should be, IMO. A one-lane loop ramp is no way to carry a major Interstate corridor.

NE2

Quote from: Anthony_JK on August 20, 2016, 11:47:10 PM
Quote from: NE2 on August 20, 2016, 07:03:09 PM
Just like there's a flyover taking I-69 north onto I-55 north. Oh wait.

There actually should be, IMO. A one-lane loop ramp is no way to carry a major Interstate corridor.
I-69 between Shreveport and Memphis? A major Interstate corridor? Ha.
pre-1945 Florida route log

I accept and respect your identity as long as it's not dumb shit like "identifying as a vaccinated attack helicopter".

lordsutch

Yeah, it's not like the world's second largest cargo airport is at one end of that route or anything.

amroad17

It looks like those two ramps have not yet been graded.  If you look at the C-D bridges north of I-22/US 78, they both begin to "flare out" before the ground area.
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NE2

Quote from: lordsutch on August 21, 2016, 02:11:56 AM
Yeah, it's not like the world's second largest cargo airport is at one end of that route or anything.
And there will be soooo much cargo on the twisty indirect I-69 across Arkansas.
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Anthony_JK

#333
Quote from: NE2 on August 21, 2016, 01:03:20 AM
Quote from: Anthony_JK on August 20, 2016, 11:47:10 PM
Quote from: NE2 on August 20, 2016, 07:03:09 PM
Just like there's a flyover taking I-69 north onto I-55 north. Oh wait.
There actually should be, IMO. A one-lane loop ramp is no way to carry a major Interstate corridor.
I-69 between Shreveport and Memphis? A major Interstate corridor? Ha.


I-69 between Shreveport and Memphis? Probably not. I-69 between Houston/South Texas and Indy? Definitely.

Either build the flyovers or shift I-69 to I-269/TN 385. Oh, wait, isn't that what you advocate for all major city Interstates to go around cities?

The point remains, though, that a one-lane loop ramp isn't the most desirable movement for TOTSO's. When/if I-69 is actually competed between Houston and Memphis, that needs to be corrected.

froggie

The need for anything like that is so far down the road (pun intended) that there's no harm in them building what they did for the current and near-future term (likely for the next 20-30 years, for that matter).

rickmastfan67

Quote from: Grzrd on August 20, 2016, 09:22:08 AM
Quote from: lordsutch on July 12, 2016, 11:28:36 PM
Quote from: TrevorB on July 12, 2016, 09:17:19 PM
Did some digging and found some I-269 MDOT signage plans.
Interesting. If nothing else it verifies that the I-22 interchange is supposed to be a complete interchange (so who knows what happened with the grading...).

Google Maps has updated its imagery in the Memphis area and the "missing" ramps are missing no more.*

*Although, at second glance, how to get from WB I-269 to NB I-22 and from NB I-22 to EB I-269?

Maybe they are expecting people to do a triple loop there till they decide to do the rest of the grading? LOL.

codyg1985

Quote from: wdcrft63 on August 20, 2016, 04:44:09 PM
Quote from: Grzrd on August 20, 2016, 09:22:08 AM
Quote from: lordsutch on July 12, 2016, 11:28:36 PM
Quote from: TrevorB on July 12, 2016, 09:17:19 PM
Did some digging and found some I-269 MDOT signage plans.
Interesting. If nothing else it verifies that the I-22 interchange is supposed to be a complete interchange (so who knows what happened with the grading...).

Google Maps has updated its imagery in the Memphis area and the "missing" ramps are missing no more.*

*Although, at second glance, how to get from WB I-269 to NB I-22 and from NB I-22 to EB I-269?
Very strange; the plans clearly include these ramps, so where are they?

Various folks in this forum have called for routing I-22 concurrent with I-269 to reach I-55/I-69. This design rules that out, since it would require a high speed flyover from I-22 WB to I-269 WB.

The signage plans posted upthread indicate that these ramps will be in place when the road opens, so I guess the remaining grading will take place in the paving contract. The bridges for the C/D roads that cross MS 178 and the BNSF railroad do indicate where those missing ramps would tie into the C/D roads.
Cody Goodman
Huntsville, AL, United States

Grzrd

Quote from: Grzrd on February 29, 2016, 12:09:16 PM
The Notice indicates that the completion date will be "Contractor Determined". It will be interesting to see how close that date will be to October 2018, the current projected completion date.

This Aug. 24 MDOT News Release still projects Fall 2018 as the date when I-269 in Mississippi will be open to traffic:

Quote
·         Interstate 269 in DeSoto and Marshall Counties
Construction of the Interstate 269 project continues and is on schedule in North Mississippi. The Interstate 269 project is the largest active MDOT construction project in the state. Dirt and bridge work for the entire Interstate 269 corridor has been completed. The next phase of the project involves two separate paving projects, the largest of which has been let to contract, and work has already begun. The second paving project is scheduled to be let in September. MDOT expects Interstate to be ready for traffic in the fall of 2018.
The first section of Interstate 269, from Mississippi 302 to the Tennessee state line in Marshall County, was opened to traffic on October 23, 2015.

MikeTheActuary

Quote from: amroad17 on August 21, 2016, 03:22:31 AM
It looks like those two ramps have not yet been graded.  If you look at the C-D bridges north of I-22/US 78, they both begin to "flare out" before the ground area.

When I drove through there in early July, it looked like all the grading was complete for a cloverleaf with C/D roads.

GreenLanternCorps

I know that paving contracts have been let, but have they started the final grading and paving of any portion of I-269 from I-55 to the completed section?

codyg1985

Quote from: GreenLanternCorps on August 29, 2016, 09:34:51 AM
I know that paving contracts have been let, but have they started the final grading and paving of any portion of I-269 from I-55 to the completed section?

All of the grading and bridges (with the exception of a few ramps at the I-22/269 interchange) are finished along I-269 in Mississippi.
Cody Goodman
Huntsville, AL, United States

The Ghostbuster

Interstate 269 will likely be completes long before any more of 69 is built in Mississippi and/or Tennessee (between Memphis and Interstate 155, that is).

Grzrd

Quote from: codyg1985 on August 06, 2016, 06:49:41 PM
MDOT has the next pavement project for I-269 (from I-55 to MS 305) coming up in this month's letting. http://sp.mdot.ms.gov/Contract%20Administration/BidSystems/Pages/letting%20calendar.aspx
Quote from: Grzrd on August 27, 2016, 08:58:45 AM
This Aug. 24 MDOT News Release
Quote
·         Interstate 269 in DeSoto and Marshall Counties
The second paving project is scheduled to be let in September. MDOT expects Interstate to be ready for traffic in the fall of 2018.

MDOT's Sept. 13 Award Lettings page includes the second and final I-269 paving project from MS 305 to I-55:



Still on schedule.

Interstate 69 Fan

Quote from: Grzrd on September 13, 2016, 09:02:00 PM
Quote from: codyg1985 on August 06, 2016, 06:49:41 PM
MDOT has the next pavement project for I-269 (from I-55 to MS 305) coming up in this month's letting. http://sp.mdot.ms.gov/Contract%20Administration/BidSystems/Pages/letting%20calendar.aspx
Quote from: Grzrd on August 27, 2016, 08:58:45 AM
This Aug. 24 MDOT News Release
Quote
·         Interstate 269 in DeSoto and Marshall Counties
The second paving project is scheduled to be let in September. MDOT expects Interstate to be ready for traffic in the fall of 2018.

MDOT's Sept. 13 Award Lettings page includes the second and final I-269 paving project from MS 305 to I-55:



Still on schedule.
Are you saying they are going to open that up next?
Apparently I’m a fan of I-69.  Who knew.

Grzrd

Quote from: Interstate 69 Fan on November 01, 2016, 10:57:52 AM
Quote from: Grzrd on September 13, 2016, 09:02:00 PM
MDOT's Sept. 13 Award Lettings page includes the second and final I-269 paving project from MS 305 to I-55:

Still on schedule.
Are you saying they are going to open that up next?

My understanding is that the current plan is to open the MS 302 to MS 305 section and the MS 305 to I-55 section at the same time, which is estimated to be Fall 2018.

Interstate 69 Fan

Quote from: Grzrd on November 01, 2016, 11:57:37 AM
Quote from: Interstate 69 Fan on November 01, 2016, 10:57:52 AM
Quote from: Grzrd on September 13, 2016, 09:02:00 PM
MDOT's Sept. 13 Award Lettings page includes the second and final I-269 paving project from MS 305 to I-55:

Still on schedule.
Are you saying they are going to open that up next?

My understanding is that the current plan is to open the MS 302 to MS 305 section and the MS 305 to I-55 section at the same time, which is estimated to be Fall 2018.
Oh cool! I'm wondering if TDOT will remove SR 385 north of I-40, because I-269 doesn't end at another Interstate, but then there's the south end.
Apparently I’m a fan of I-69.  Who knew.

sparker

Quote from: Interstate 69 Fan on November 01, 2016, 03:17:22 PM
Oh cool! I'm wondering if TDOT will remove SR 385 north of I-40, because I-269 doesn't end at another Interstate, but then there's the south end.

I-269 was authorized (AASHTO Spring 2016 meeting) only as far north as I-40, so it's likely TN 385 from I-40 to US 51 will stay where it is for the time being.  AFAIK, I-269 and TN 385 will be co-signed over their multiplex. 

The Ghostbuster

That makes sense. Interstate 269 should not be extended along the rest of TN 385 until it connects with the yet-to-be-constructed segment of Interstate 69 between Memphis and Interstate 155.

rte66man

Quote from: The Ghostbuster on November 01, 2016, 05:17:27 PM
That makes sense. Interstate 269 should not be extended along the rest of TN 385 unless it connects with the highly-unlikely-to-be-constructed segment of Interstate 69 between Memphis and Interstate 155.

FTFY
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Tomahawkin

I'm curious to know what is going on, in the northern area (north of IH 40) of the development of 269? Has anyone heard anything since Kentucky got the OK to proceed with their development of I-69. Isn't the area around Millington protected because of the Naval base? I only go to that area once a year now...



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