For changes that need to be made on usain routes before activation
Routes can be found here: http://tm.teresco.org/devel/hb.php?sys=usain
On a very quick glance, these changes should be made:
- SR 22 is discontinuous: US 31 east to SR 26 and SR 29 east to Kokomo city limits
- SR 25 is discontinuous: The northern terminus of the south section ends at US 231 in Lafayette the southern terminus of the north section is I-65 in Lafayette
- SR 37 southern two sections, as far as i know are continuous. SR 37 is signed along I-69, but not along I-465. Nonetheless, i think it is technically a concurrency
- SR 67: same thing along I-465. I thought the signage said "SR 67 follow I-465"
- SR 130, I believe, goes from SR 51 to SR 149 (does not go to US 30)
- SR 933: I am not sure, but i think a part of it in the middle may have been turned back
Where is SR 912?
Northern section of SR 337 is missing.
SR 641 is underconstruction as a freeway from McDaniel Rd. to I-70.
Quote from: mukade on November 02, 2015, 07:16:13 AM- SR 37 southern two sections, as far as i know are continuous. SR 37 is signed along I-69, but not along I-465. Nonetheless, i think it is technically a concurrency
- SR 67: same thing along I-465. I thought the signage said "SR 67 follow I-465"
I was recently asked to break these up for the same sorts of reasons that SR25 is discontinuous - IN doesn't do long concurrencies like this.
QuoteWhere is SR 912?
in the active usasnf system - it will be transferred over when this system is activated.
QuoteNorthern section of SR 337 is missing.
I fixed that this morning - so will be fixed next update.
Quote from: english si on November 02, 2015, 08:03:56 AM
Quote from: mukade on November 02, 2015, 07:16:13 AM- SR 37 southern two sections, as far as i know are continuous. SR 37 is signed along I-69, but not along I-465. Nonetheless, i think it is technically a concurrency
- SR 67: same thing along I-465. I thought the signage said "SR 67 follow I-465"
I was recently asked to break these up for the same sorts of reasons that SR25 is discontinuous - IN doesn't do long concurrencies like this.
I guess the distinction is that SR 25 is marked as "END" at I-65 and US 231 (same general situation with SR 3), but SR 37, I think, is marked as "SR 37 follow I-465". If that is the same as an "END", then the US highways in Indianapolis would also be officially discontinuous.
Also, note that SR 445 will be extended east to I-69 by the end of the year.
I vote for IN37 being continuous along I-465, a la the US routes. I haven't looked into the others. From mukade's description, it sounds like I'd want IN67 to be too.
Quote from: yakra on November 05, 2015, 10:49:21 PM
I vote for IN37 being continuous along I-465, a la the US routes. I haven't looked into the others. From mukade's description, it sounds like I'd want IN67 to be too.
If there's a sign or two saying for you to follow another route for another, I think we should include that segment in the file and not split the route as I would consider it as 'implied'. US-19 Truck here in Pittsburgh has a similar sign as well on it's unsigned segment along I-279/I-376.
https://goo.gl/maps/YBzeCwmdiRH2
Looking at the routes I recently split.
IN1: northbound (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@40.9508524,-85.1676736,3a,35.4y,29.21h,85.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sImUicBC7817iO6hi1lCTzw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). southbound: no sign. I'll merge it back into one piece.
IN3: 1 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@40.828546,-85.3358793,3a,75y,13.98h,86.24t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1slHXfq2kI4K4Nb5r09CCgHg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), 2 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@40.8292134,-85.335446,3a,75y,14.05h,78.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sm20QRepRCqv8rAq6cxIjwA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). Clearly discontinous - keeping split.
IN37: northbound: 1 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@39.6829276,-86.1955891,3a,75y,48.16h,80.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sVEP878FHfDAU0RBOmWGqYw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), 2 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@39.6880143,-86.1910073,3a,75y,37.86h,83.66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sBhnrso8UnJzmgjFwSlc0tg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), 3 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@39.6943926,-86.1865138,3a,75y,358.79h,91.64t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s6r1W6O_PLg6OQGH-0SHS1Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), 4 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@39.6951628,-86.1859772,3a,27.1y,58.76h,88.72t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1souq8MzEYPhgAobynCwTvSg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), 5 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@39.8895929,-86.0485699,3a,75y,334.02h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s7ahJEzQaeVJowRUr48WLuQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). southbound:1 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@39.9687423,-86.0038192,3a,75y,184.61h,81.3t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFOtI55FPTlqavL7T6a14cg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), 2 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@39.9590734,-86.0065723,3a,75y,211.01h,90.63t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sdK8lmCcZCWZQwIxwnaSrrA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656),3 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@39.9046732,-86.0459702,3a,27.3y,241.53h,90.48t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s9vQILiNdHtRLuEAWvpbUvQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), 4 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@39.8984385,-86.0518,3a,75y,236.95h,90t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sD5QEXMKxwF5wbRO-kYFNUg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). This suggests that IN37 is continuous.
IN67: northbound:1 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@39.6971042,-86.266698,3a,75y,56.87h,87.87t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sa6DSkBsVhBp7dch_oOPtbw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656), 2 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@39.827391,-86.0328767,3a,75y,1.97h,89.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sFrkmB9-T4o1DZdsSzBt6Kg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). southbound (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@39.832562,-86.0351754,3a,75y,232.76h,75.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_Mm3pfryEDq1lTG26UbdEQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). Reconnecting.
I never knew about that sign along SR 1 approaching I-469. Though the sign is incorrect about the exit numbers now, given that it is now Exit 316 and not Exit 116, unless they're talking about the new interchange with Tapp Road and I-69 in Bloomington :)
Quote from: tdindy88 on November 06, 2015, 08:41:24 AM
I never knew about that sign along SR 1 approaching I-469. Though the sign is incorrect about the exit numbers now, given that it is now Exit 316 and not Exit 116, unless they're talking about the new interchange with Tapp Road and I-69 in Bloomington :)
When the imagery was taken, it was correct! ;)
I can't believe that INDOT actually rerouted SR 135 around Salem. :wow:
Quote from: english si on November 06, 2015, 06:58:56 AM
Looking at the routes I recently split.
IN1: northbound (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@40.9508524,-85.1676736,3a,35.4y,29.21h,85.41t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sImUicBC7817iO6hi1lCTzw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656). southbound: no sign. I'll merge it back into one piece.
It is ambiguous with SR 1 because there were "END" signs at I-69 and I-469 at one time. On the north side of Fort Wayne at DuPont Rd., they were there at least until they made the interchange a DDI. I believe that interchange design modification was made in 2014.
I always considered SR 1 and SR 3 to be discontinuous, but you can make a case either way.
Does anyone know if SR 342 is still officially a state highway? I know it is now barricaded and they built a new road into the national guard base further to the east on SR 42 at a new roundabout. Not too sure if that road is now an unsigned 342 or if it is just part of Swalls Road.
https://www.google.com/maps/@39.4603692,-87.2903501,17z/data=!3m1!1e3
Quote from: mukade on November 02, 2015, 07:16:13 AM
- SR 130, I believe, goes from SR 51 to SR 149 (does not go to US 30)
I can confirm, they removed all of the signs east of SR 149 within the past year, except for one or two left on cross streets. Although it wouldn't be the end of the world if you "accidentally" kept the whole route in the browser, IMO.
What's going on with IN9 and IN205 in Columbia City? Are they concurrent with US30Bus through town? As they are currently drafted, it doesn't appear so. It's been a while since I was through there, but I believe all three routes follow Main St for a few blocks. An additional waypoint where US30Bus turns east and IN9/205 head south (intersection of S Main and E Chicago) might resolve the confusion I'm having.
IN64. Should waypoint 11 be named IN357? It is currently named IN347. Looks like just a typo.
On IN19, IN18 (just south of US 30) => IN10 There are two waypoints with junctions with IN18 at its actual location near Kokomo.
I stumbled across this one while reconstructing my Indiana SR travels for my list file (not quite done with that).
Also, on IN 120, there's a pair of points IN15_S and IN15_E. One of the two should be relabeled to be consistent.
IN62's east end is at IN262, not at US50.
IN37 (Bloomington) got misaligned at the waypoint for the new I-69 interchange.
Also, IN267 extends south past I-70 to IN42.
IN28:
* I believe IN3_N should be US35_S (or US35/3 or US35/3_S, depending on the rules).
IN62:
* All of the points from 118(64) to 10(265) don't match the format of the other state road/interstate concurrencies. Additionally, I-64/264 is mislabeled (should be 64/265).
* Did IN62 move onto I-265 recently? Or is it an extension of I-265? My old route notes show that I got on IN62 at US31 (which no longer has access).
IN120:
* I believe IN15_E should be IN15_N.
IN126:
* Is this gone?
IN157:
* I believe IN67_S and IN67_N should also include US 231.
IN203:
* Lovely. There's IN356_W, IN356_E, IN3/56, IN3_S, and IN56_W. I have to congratulate INDOT for making things difficult for us. :)
IN252:
* IN31_N and IN31_S should be US31.
IN329:
* Decommissioned?
IN345:
* Ditto?
IN431:
* This too?
IN526:
* The last time I was in West Lafayette, I remember signs for this. But is it no longer?
Quote from: ntallyn on December 19, 2015, 03:17:43 PM
IN28:
* I believe IN3_N should be US35_S (or US35/3 or US35/3_S, depending on the rules).
Looks like US35/3 would be preferred here.
Quote from: ntallyn on December 19, 2015, 03:17:43 PM* Did IN62 move onto I-265 recently? Or is it an extension of I-265? My old route notes show that I got on IN62 at US31 (which no longer has access).
When I-265 was extended and provided a full bypass, it moved to the interstate. The really old streetview imagery near I-64 shows it taking the freeway rather than passing through the urban area.
QuoteIN126:
* Is this gone?
When the US231 bypass opened. 13-Sept-13.
QuoteIN329:
* Decommissioned?
In 2000
QuoteIN345:
* Ditto?
So dead it doesn't even have its own wikipedia article.
QuoteIN431:
* This too?
Decommissioned October 19, 2007. You can, however, clinch most of it (http://tm.teresco.org/devel/hb.php?r=in.keypkwy).
QuoteIN526:
* The last time I was in West Lafayette, I remember signs for this. But is it no longer?
How long ago was 'last time'. It was decommissioned 13-09-13, and the other changes in that area (eg IN25) are definitely had their signage done.
Label changes are made.
Quote from: english si on December 20, 2015, 06:53:03 PM
QuoteIN526:
* The last time I was in West Lafayette, I remember signs for this. But is it no longer?
How long ago was 'last time'. It was decommissioned 13-09-13, and the other changes in that area (eg IN25) are definitely had their signage done.
Label changes are made.
I'd have to look at my records, but I think "last time" would have been late 2012 or early 2013. More miles lost. Oh well!
In Fortville, IN13 follows Madison St all the way to its terminus at US36.
IN201's southern end is here (http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=40.72519,-85.12258&z=19&t=H&marker0=40.73861%2C-85.17167%2CBluffton%20IN&marker1=40.29889%2C-83.07194%2CDelaware%2C%20Ohio&marker2=40.72519%2C-85.12258%2Cunnamed).
There is a IN67 Business signed in Muncie. I saw ends at the Hoyt Ave & N Broadway interchanges with the bypass but have no idea how (if) it's signed in between them...if it isn't, that's not unusual for Indiana.
IN218 (Deer Creek)'s western end is about half a mile north of where it's shown.
Quote from: ntallyn on December 19, 2015, 03:17:43 PM
IN62:
* All of the points from 118(64) to 10(265) don't match the format of the other state road/interstate concurrencies. Additionally, I-64/264 is mislabeled (should be 64/265).
* Did IN62 move onto I-265 recently? Or is it an extension of I-265? My old route notes show that I got on IN62 at US31 (which no longer has access).
IN 62 has been routed along I-265 since at least 2006, which is when I moved to the area. The old routing of IN 62 would have been concurrent with US 31 between 10th Street and Brown Station Way.
Quote from: mapcat on January 07, 2016, 09:02:11 PM
There is a IN67 Business signed in Muncie. I saw ends at the Hoyt Ave & N Broadway interchanges with the bypass but have no idea how (if) it's signed in between them...if it isn't, that's not unusual for Indiana.
There's also a signed Truck IN15 in Wabash.
Quote from: mapcat on January 07, 2016, 09:02:11 PM
In Fortville, IN13 follows Madison St all the way to its terminus at US36.
IN201's southern end is here (http://mapper.acme.com/?ll=40.72519,-85.12258&z=19&t=H&marker0=40.73861%2C-85.17167%2CBluffton%20IN&marker1=40.29889%2C-83.07194%2CDelaware%2C%20Ohio&marker2=40.72519%2C-85.12258%2Cunnamed).
There is a IN67 Business signed in Muncie. I saw ends at the Hoyt Ave & N Broadway interchanges with the bypass but have no idea how (if) it's signed in between them...if it isn't, that's not unusual for Indiana.
IN218 (Deer Creek)'s western end is about half a mile north of where it's shown.
any pictures or street view of Business 67?
Quote from: silverback1065 on February 26, 2016, 03:04:21 PM
any pictures or street view of Business 67?
Not yet. I just took the bypass since it was late and pictures wouldn't have turned out anyway. I might be back there this weekend. GMSV shows something like 2 or 3 signs along IN 67's old route, and it appears that there are a couple Business 3 signs along its old route as well.
Went through Logansport yesterday and the very short stretch of Burlington Avenue between IN 29 and IN 25 is signed as IN 329. This road does not appear in the database.
Quote from: cabiness42 on November 25, 2016, 01:25:49 PM
Went through Logansport yesterday and the very short stretch of Burlington Avenue between IN 29 and IN 25 is signed as IN 329. This road does not appear in the database.
Posted a new topic over on the TM forum for this.
http://tm.teresco.org/forum/index.php?topic=1814.0 (http://tm.teresco.org/forum/index.php?topic=1814.0)