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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3000 on: August 24, 2022, 01:26:50 PM »

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As I noted upthread, it was chosen on purpose but nothing to do with the Texans. Watson needs to be on the roster for 6 games for his salary increase for the next season to kick in, so 11 games was the longest suspension that he wouldn't fight.

Learn something new every day I guess. That would actually make sense, I'm just surprised it wasn't mentioned in any of the reporting that I saw anywhere.
Does anyone still trust the media? Or think the media reports the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Because they don't. Sports or otherwise.

Of course not, but "the media" is a huge entity, and that's a really important thing to mention. Not only that, it's cynical, just like most/all of the Watson coverage, so it's something that you'd expect to be in the coverage. (I'm also broadly including the various podcasts I've listened to in the past ~2 months, some of which I would definitely expect to explain this, or at least mention it.)

I mean... now I'm googling it to verify and coming up empty. Maybe NWI_Irish96 has a citation.
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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3001 on: August 24, 2022, 01:38:50 PM »

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As I noted upthread, it was chosen on purpose but nothing to do with the Texans. Watson needs to be on the roster for 6 games for his salary increase for the next season to kick in, so 11 games was the longest suspension that he wouldn't fight.

Learn something new every day I guess. That would actually make sense, I'm just surprised it wasn't mentioned in any of the reporting that I saw anywhere.
Does anyone still trust the media? Or think the media reports the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Because they don't. Sports or otherwise.

Of course not, but "the media" is a huge entity, and that's a really important thing to mention. Not only that, it's cynical, just like most/all of the Watson coverage, so it's something that you'd expect to be in the coverage. (I'm also broadly including the various podcasts I've listened to in the past ~2 months, some of which I would definitely expect to explain this, or at least mention it.)

I mean... now I'm googling it to verify and coming up empty. Maybe NWI_Irish96 has a citation.


OK, so what I originally read wasn't 100% accurate. He needs 6 games for the year to count as a year of service time, not to advance his contract to the next year, which is less important given Watson's contract but still possibly why that number was agreed to
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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3002 on: August 24, 2022, 03:34:46 PM »

“Brad Fini” has 23 followers and is not verified. Wouldn’t trust him either.
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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3003 on: August 24, 2022, 08:51:41 PM »

R.I.P Len Dawson.
https://www.pennlive.com/sports/2022/08/hall-of-fame-quarterback-broadcaster-len-dawson-dies-at-87.html

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KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) — Hall of Fame quarterback Len Dawson, whose unmistakable swagger in helping the Kansas City Chiefs to their first Super Bowl title earned him the nickname “Lenny the Cool,” died Wednesday. He was 87.

Dawson’s family announced his death in a statement through KMBC, the Kansas City-based television station where he starred in his second career as a broadcaster. No cause was given, though Dawson had been in declining health for years.

“With wife Linda at his side, it is with much sadness that we inform you of the passing of our beloved Len Dawson,” the family’s statement read. “He was a wonderful husband, father, brother and friend. Len was always grateful and many times overwhelmed by the countless bonds he made during his football and broadcast careers.”

The MVP of the Chiefs’ victory over the Vikings in January 1970, Dawson had entered hospice care on Aug. 12.

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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3004 on: August 28, 2022, 02:04:36 PM »

OK, my 2022 standings and playoff predictions:

AFC East - BUF 13-4, NE 9-8, MIA 8-9, NYJ 4-13
AFC North - CIN 11-6, BAL 9-8, PIT 8-9, CLE 6-11
AFC South - IND 11-6, *TEN 10-7, JAX 6-11, HOU 5-12
AFC West - KC 12-5, *LAC 11-6, *LV 10-7, DEN 8-9

NFC East - PHI 10-7, *DAL 9-8, WAS 7-10, NYG 6-11
NFC North - GB 13-4, *CHI 8-9, MIN 8-9, DET 5-12
NFC South - TB 12-5, NO 7-10, CAR 6-11, ATL 4-13
NFC West - LAR 12-5, *SF 11-6, ARI 8-9, SEA 5-12

AFC Wild Card: (2) KC over (7) LV, (3) IND over (6) TEN, (5) LAC over (4) CIN
NFC Wild Card: (2) TB over (7) CHI, (3) LAR over (6) DAL, (5) SF over (4) PHI

AFC Divisional: (1) BUF over (5) LAC, (3) IND over (2) KC
NFC Divisional: (1) GB over (5) SF, (3) LAR over (2) TB

Championships: (1) BUF over (3) IND, (3) LAR over (1) GB

Super Bowl: Buffalo over LA Rams
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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3005 on: August 28, 2022, 08:51:00 PM »

Jets went 3-0 in the preseason so I'm predicting 0-17 in the regular season. Prove me wrong.

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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3006 on: September 01, 2022, 03:08:24 AM »

Jets went 3-0 in the preseason so I'm predicting 0-17 in the regular season. Prove me wrong.
They might win one game idk though
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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3007 on: September 01, 2022, 10:46:27 AM »

Jets went 3-0 in the preseason so I'm predicting 0-17 in the regular season. Prove me wrong.
They might win one game idk though

As much as I enjoyed watching the Lions and Browns go winless in a season, I am no longer routing for a team to lose all of its games, unless that team is the Dolphins.  Nothing would please me more than the same team that is arrogantly proud of their undefeated season also having a winless season!
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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3008 on: September 01, 2022, 03:44:59 PM »

Marcus Maye charged with aggravated assault with a firearm. How about those Saints, really living up to their name with two starters charged with assault this offseason alone.
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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3009 on: September 07, 2022, 10:38:44 AM »

With the recent heatwave on the West Coast, SoFi Stadium will have everyone sweating inside during the Bills-Rams game because it doesn't have air conditioning. And that could possibly be a fatal mistake, with the power grid being in danger of overloading. I wouldn't be surprised if that game got a repeat of Super Bowl XLVII's infamous blackout.
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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3010 on: September 07, 2022, 10:59:10 AM »

That time again . . .

Rams 30, Bills 27
Eagles 38, Lions 24
49ers 23, Bears 22
Bengals 24, Steelers 20
Dolphins 27, Patriots 17
Browns 21, Panthers 20
Colts 33, Texans 17
Saints 30, Falcons 13
Ravens 35, Jets 10
Commanders 28, Jaguars 17
Vikings 29, Packers 14
Titans 30, Giants 22
Chargers 37, Raiders 30
Chiefs 31, Cardinals 21
Cowboys 26, Buccaneers 19
Broncos 23, Seahawks 13
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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3011 on: September 07, 2022, 11:43:43 AM »

With the recent heatwave on the West Coast, SoFi Stadium will have everyone sweating inside during the Bills-Rams game because it doesn't have air conditioning. And that could possibly be a fatal mistake, with the power grid being in danger of overloading. I wouldn't be surprised if that game got a repeat of Super Bowl XLVII's infamous blackout.

You can bet the NFL is scrambling to have contingencies in place to avoid another CF like that.  At least this time, they know circumstances are iffy for the power grid and it's not some hidden flaw in the stadium itself.

I like to imagine that Super Bowl blackout was part of some elaborate heist going on in New Orleans.  Kind of like Oceans 11; everyone distracted by the big sports thing, then they cause a blackout to do whatever to the security gizmo.  Boom, baby!
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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3012 on: September 07, 2022, 12:55:21 PM »

With the recent heatwave on the West Coast, SoFi Stadium will have everyone sweating inside during the Bills-Rams game because it doesn't have air conditioning. And that could possibly be a fatal mistake, with the power grid being in danger of overloading. I wouldn't be surprised if that game got a repeat of Super Bowl XLVII's infamous blackout.

You can bet the NFL is scrambling to have contingencies in place to avoid another CF like that.  At least this time, they know circumstances are iffy for the power grid and it's not some hidden flaw in the stadium itself.


They can go to Home Depot and buy a million window units to solve the heat issue! :-D
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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3013 on: September 07, 2022, 09:07:20 PM »

With regards to the "forking" competition upthread, tomorrow is the deadline to fork teams to get the full 20 points. After kickoff, forks through week 8 will be worth 15 points. I took a long, hard look at my list and I'm sticking with it:

Alright, I settled on 12 teams. [...] Here goes:

Steelers
Browns
Jets
Patriots
Texans
Titans

Falcons
Giants
Commanders
Seahawks
Lions
Bears
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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3014 on: September 07, 2022, 09:09:32 PM »

I'm not going to be quite as aggressive, I'll fork these teams:

Jets
Browns
Texans
Lions
Falcons
Seahawks
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« Reply #3015 on: September 07, 2022, 09:45:57 PM »

We'll see if my aggression pays off. I'm planning on doing my remaining forks after week 8 (not to give away my strategy  :-D)

In other NFL forecasting news, FiveThirtyEight's NFL predictions came out today: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-nfl-predictions/
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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3016 on: September 07, 2022, 10:34:02 PM »

We'll see if my aggression pays off. I'm planning on doing my remaining forks after week 8 (not to give away my strategy  :-D)

In other NFL forecasting news, FiveThirtyEight's NFL predictions came out today: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-nfl-predictions/
One thing he's not good at. Way too close in wins/losses for the 32 teams. Some are gonna shine and he should be doing a better job with that.

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« Reply #3017 on: September 07, 2022, 10:43:32 PM »

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In other NFL forecasting news, FiveThirtyEight's NFL predictions came out today: https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2022-nfl-predictions/
One thing he's not good at. Way too close in wins/losses for the 32 teams. Some are gonna shine and he should be doing a better job with that.

Yeah, I don't pay much attention to the forecasted win totals because they're always clustered close to .500. I mostly use it is a reference for playoff/division odds and individual games.
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« Reply #3018 on: September 08, 2022, 01:23:25 AM »

One this day two decades ago, I finally became an NFL football fan....my Houston Texans played their first game in franchise history. 

Before the Texans, I didn't have much of an interest in the NFL because having lived in my Lone Star State my whole life I never had a team to cheer for.  I was obviously way too young to remember the Oilers, and by the time I realized Houston had the Oilers, Bud Adams soon after announced his intention to relocate the franchise to Tennessee, so there was no point for me to even cheer for them their last couple seasons.

Bob McNair jolted the area's NFL interest when his team brought the Texans to my state.  Even so Houston still remained the most divided NFL fanbase in the country which was divided even deeper after Hurricane Katrina, with the influx of N.O. Saints fans into the city.  The Saints are solidly the largest fanbase of an outsider team followed by the Cowboys.
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« Reply #3019 on: September 08, 2022, 02:01:34 PM »

My suspicions may become reality, as the Bears' proposed home in Arlington Heights will be either a domed or retractable-roof stadium. And to me, that makes a lot more sense than the Mayor's crazy proposal to build a dome over Soldier Field, which I do not like. Perhaps this will open the door for the Chicago area to host some big-ticket events in the future, like the Super Bowl and NCAA Men's Final Four.

Meanwhile, there have been rumors going around that a second team may be established in Chicago after the Bears leave, but I'm sort of skeptical about it because no team is looking to relocate that I'm aware of, and it's lagging far behind New York and Los Angeles (both two-team towns) in about every aspect. My father was 13 when the Cardinals left, but that mattered very little since he was always a Bears and Cubs fan at that time. If there ever were to be a second team, it would have to be an AFC team, and probably be a small-market team like the Jaguars, who are committed to Jacksonville for now anyway. I remember when the Raiders were seeking to leave Oakland for the second time and thinking how I'd love to have the Windy City host them, but I'm glad they're in Las Vegas now, and enjoying it there.
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Re: NFL (2022 Season)
« Reply #3020 on: September 08, 2022, 02:07:23 PM »

My father was 13 when the Cardinals left, but that mattered very little since he was always a Bears and Cubs fan at that time.

I've heard stories from some old (some now passed) Chicagoans about the two NFL team era in Chicago. There were pretty clear divisions. Northsiders were Bears and Cubs fans. Southsiders were Cardinals and Sox fans. The rivalries were bitter. Despite the fact that Soldier Field was by far a nicer stadium and better suited for football than either Wrigley or Comiskey, neither NFL team dared move there and be perceived as moving in on the others' territory. A full decade after the Cardinals left, the Bears finally made the move downtown.

When the Cardinals left, most of their fans refused to adopt the Bears and switched their allegiances to the Bears' other main rival, the Packers, and that's why there are so many Packers fans scattered throughout the south side.
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« Reply #3021 on: September 08, 2022, 03:22:32 PM »

When the Cardinals left, most of their fans refused to adopt the Bears and switched their allegiances to the Bears' other main rival, the Packers, and that's why there are so many Packers fans scattered throughout the south side.

Now that's holding a grudge!
I hope Chicago doesn't waste money on a retractable roof.  Those are a waste of money for an NFL venue.  There are not enough games in a year to make it worthwhile.  Just dome it.
Look around the country at the retractable roof stadiums in the NFL; they're nearly always closed.  So what was the point of spending tens of millions more (often taxpayer) dollars on something you almost never use?
Phoenix, Houston, Indy, The Death Star; always closed.
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« Reply #3022 on: September 08, 2022, 03:33:08 PM »

My suspicions may become reality, as the Bears' proposed home in Arlington Heights will be either a domed or retractable-roof stadium. And to me, that makes a lot more sense than the Mayor's crazy proposal to build a dome over Soldier Field, which I do not like. Perhaps this will open the door for the Chicago area to host some big-ticket events in the future, like the Super Bowl and NCAA Men's Final Four.

Meanwhile, there have been rumors going around that a second team may be established in Chicago after the Bears leave, but I'm sort of skeptical about it because no team is looking to relocate that I'm aware of, and it's lagging far behind New York and Los Angeles (both two-team towns) in about every aspect. My father was 13 when the Cardinals left, but that mattered very little since he was always a Bears and Cubs fan at that time. If there ever were to be a second team, it would have to be an AFC team, and probably be a small-market team like the Jaguars, who are committed to Jacksonville for now anyway. I remember when the Raiders were seeking to leave Oakland for the second time and thinking how I'd love to have the Windy City host them, but I'm glad they're in Las Vegas now, and enjoying it there.

Why would Chicago get another team to “replace” the Bears? The Bears are not actually leaving. It’s similar to the 49ers in Santa Clara (which it’s become an open secret that was a huge mistake, but I digress)
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« Reply #3023 on: September 08, 2022, 07:17:33 PM »

The Saints are solidly the largest fanbase of an outsider team followed by the Cowboys.
I completely disagree. I'd say Cowboys fans outnumber Saints fans in the Houston area 10 to 1 from what I've seen.

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« Reply #3024 on: September 08, 2022, 08:32:28 PM »

The Saints are solidly the largest fanbase of an outsider team followed by the Cowboys.
I completely disagree. I'd say Cowboys fans outnumber Saints fans in the Houston area 10 to 1 from what I've seen.

If it was following the Cowboys, that I could see. But I would be very surprised if the Saints are #1 anywhere in Texas.
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