NFL (2024 Season)

[Alps]

Thoughts on Baker Mayfield to the Panthers?

I wanted to see Jimmy G to the Panthers and Baker Mayfield to the Seahawks, that just seemed to make the most sense for all teams involved. I think Jimmy G is better than Baker and the Panthers could use someone with as much experience as possible, plus the Darnold/Mayfield thing is kind of awkward.

And from a Seahawks POV, Baker is still a big upgrade over Drew Lock. But there's no way Jimmy G goes to Seattle so he may end up a backup somewhere.

It's laughable.

[DenverBrian]

Browns at Panthers September 11...my, my.

[webny99]

The Athletic Football Show podcast has a 6-episode series about Andrew Luck that came out this week... interesting insight for anyone that followed Luck's career/early retirement: https://www.stitcher.com/show/the-athletic-football-show-a-show-about-the-nfl

Luck's retirement was one of the few NFL moments I don't think I'll ever forget. Truly and unbelievably stunning the way it unfolded.

[Ted$8roadFan]

The Athletic Football Show podcast has a 6-episode series about Andrew Luck that came out this week... interesting insight for anyone that followed Luck's career/early retirement: https://www.stitcher.com/show/the-athletic-football-show-a-show-about-the-nfl

Luck's retirement was one of the few NFL moments I don't think I'll ever forget. Truly and unbelievably stunning the way it unfolded.

Luck himself has been mostly quiet since his retirement. Were he to write a tell-all, it could be a best-seller.

[webny99]

The Athletic Football Show podcast has a 6-episode series about Andrew Luck that came out this week... interesting insight for anyone that followed Luck's career/early retirement: https://www.stitcher.com/show/the-athletic-football-show-a-show-about-the-nfl

Luck's retirement was one of the few NFL moments I don't think I'll ever forget. Truly and unbelievably stunning the way it unfolded.

Luck himself has been mostly quiet since his retirement. Were he to write a tell-all, it could be a best-seller.

This series might be as close as we ever get. Made it to the final episode today and it's very well done. It's a back-and-forth between narration by Colts beat reporter Zach Keefer and commentary from various Colts and NFL figures. I'm not usually a huge fan of that style and prefer a conversational style, but it worked well here. Lots of background on the decision to move on from Peyton, Luck's early career, injuries, comeback campaign in 2018, etc.

[gr8daynegb]

The Athletic Football Show podcast has a 6-episode series about Andrew Luck that came out this week... interesting insight for anyone that followed Luck's career/early retirement: https://www.stitcher.com/show/the-athletic-football-show-a-show-about-the-nfl

Luck's retirement was one of the few NFL moments I don't think I'll ever forget. Truly and unbelievably stunning the way it unfolded.

Luck himself has been mostly quiet since his retirement. Were he to write a tell-all, it could be a best-seller.

This series might be as close as we ever get. Made it to the final episode today and it's very well done. It's a back-and-forth between narration by Colts beat reporter Zach Keefer and commentary from various Colts and NFL figures. I'm not usually a huge fan of that style and prefer a conversational style, but it worked well here. Lots of background on the decision to move on from Peyton, Luck's early career, injuries, comeback campaign in 2018, etc.

Stinks with the injuries he had to deal with causing early retirement.  Would like to think he'd have been a HOF QB, or well on HOF path, if he was still playing.

[thspfc]

Very out-of-the-blue post, but I remember last year a couple of us "forked" teams once we were confident they weren't going to make the playoffs, and accumulated a list of such teams over time until the end of the regular season. I think that's a fun idea, what if we had an organized "forking" competition for this season?

For example:

Fork before season starts: 20 points
Fork weeks 1 through 7: 15 points
Fork weeks 8 through 11: 11 points
Fork weeks 12 through 14: 8 points
Fork weeks 15 and 16: 6 points

The deadline to make final forks would be Thursday 12/29, the start of week 17. After week 17, it's just picking week 18 games which isn't really the spirit.

Of course, there would be a penalty for an incorrect fork. Maybe -30 points? It would have to be steep in order to encourage smart and timely picks.

Forking a team after they have been eliminated from playoff contention would obviously net you 0 points.

So, who is interested? Any disputes on the points system?

[JayhawkCO]

Very out-of-the-blue post, but I remember last year a couple of us "forked" teams once we were confident they weren't going to make the playoffs, and accumulated a list of such teams over time until the end of the regular season. I think that's a fun idea, what if we had an organized "forking" competition for this season?

For example:

Fork before season starts: 20 points
Fork weeks 1 through 7: 15 points
Fork weeks 8 through 11: 11 points
Fork weeks 12 through 14: 8 points
Fork weeks 15 and 16: 6 points

The deadline to make final forks would be Thursday 12/29, the start of week 17. After week 17, it's just picking week 18 games which isn't really the spirit.

Of course, there would be a penalty for an incorrect fork. Maybe -30 points? It would have to be steep in order to encourage smart and timely picks.

Forking a team after they have been eliminated from playoff contention would obviously net you 0 points.

So, who is interested? Any disputes on the points system?

I'm down.

[webny99]

Oh, I am obviously down for this as well. I think it was me that started it last year, remembering that it was an old Around the NFL podcast segment that I enjoyed.

My only suggestion would be to make it 4 tiers with 5-point increments for simplicity's sake. Keeping preseason at 20 pts, maybe something like 15 for weeks 1-8, 10 for weeks 9-12, and 5 for weeks 13-16? And I'm good with -30 points for an incorrect fork.

[NWI_Irish96]

I'm in. Put me down for Detroit today.

[thspfc]

Oh, I am obviously down for this as well. I think it was me that started it last year, remembering that it was an old Around the NFL podcast segment that I enjoyed.

My only suggestion would be to make it 4 tiers with 5-point increments for simplicity's sake. Keeping preseason at 20 pts, maybe something like 15 for weeks 1-8, 10 for weeks 9-12, and 5 for weeks 13-16? And I'm good with -30 points for an incorrect fork.

How about we meet in the middle:

Preseason: 20 points
Weeks 1-8: 15 points
Weeks 9-13: 10 points
Weeks 14-16: 5 points

[webny99]

My only suggestion would be to make it 4 tiers with 5-point increments for simplicity's sake. ...

How about we meet in the middle:

Preseason: 20 points
Weeks 1-8: 15 points
Weeks 9-13: 10 points
Weeks 14-16: 5 points

[jlam]

Deal. Put me in for Atlanta, Houston, both NY teams, and Chicago. And Detroit if we can do repeats of other forum members' selections.

[thspfc]

Deal. Put me in for Atlanta, Houston, both NY teams, and Chicago. And Detroit if we can do repeats of other forum members' selections.

Yes, repeats are allowed.

And one final thing I forgot to add: if you haven't forked 18 teams by the start of week 17, you will be docked 30 points for every missing team (i.e. if you only do 16 you'll lose 60 points).

I think that's necessary because otherwise people can just fork the teams that are obviously going to miss out and leave the close ones untouched so as to guarantee no wrong forks. And that's boring.

[thspfc]

Now that we've got several people in this, I'll make a table to keep track, which I'll update at the end of every points period. Anyone else reading this, feel free to join whenever.

Green = has been eliminated
Red = has clinched a playoff berth
Black = TBD

NWI_Irish96
Lions (+20)
Jets (+20)
Browns (+20)
Texans (+20)
Falcons (+20)
Seahawks (+20)
Patriots (+15)
Steelers (+15)
Raiders (+15)
Commanders (+15)
Panthers (+15)
Broncos (+13)
Jaguars (+13)
Saints (+13)
Colts (+10)
Rams (+10)
Cardinals (+10)
Bears (+10)
Current total: 274


jlam
Falcons (+20)
Texans (+20)
Jets (+20)
Giants (+20)
Bears (+20)
Lions (+20)
Raiders (+15)
Steelers (+15)
Seahawks (+15)
Panthers (+13)
Commanders (+13)
Saints (+13)
Cardinals (+13)
Broncos (+13)
Jaguars (+13)
Colts (+13)
Patriots (+13)
Chargers (+13)
Current total: 282


thspfc
Texans (+20)
Jaguars (+20)
Giants (+20)
Falcons (+20)
Bears (+20)
Lions (+20)
Seahawks (+20)
Patriots (+15)
Jets (+15)
Steelers (+15)
Panthers (+15)
Raiders (+13)
Saints (+13)
Cardinals (+13)
Broncos (+13)
Browns (+13)
Rams (+10)
Colts (+10)
Current total: 285


jayhawkco
Giants (+20)
Panthers (+20)
Seahawks (+20)
Jets (+20)
Falcons (+20)
Browns (+20)
Jaguars (+20)
Lions (+20)
Bears (+20)
Commanders (+20)
Cardinals (+15)
Cowboys (+15)
Steelers (+15)
Raiders (+15)
Patriots (+15)
Broncos (+13)
Texans (+13)
Saints (+13)
Current total: 314


webny99
Steelers (+20)
Browns (+20)
Jets (+20)
Patriots (+20)
Texans (+20)
Titans (+20)
Falcons (+20)
Giants (+20)
Commanders (+20)
Seahawks (+20)
Lions (+20)
Bears (+20)
Panthers (+15)
Packers (+13)
Buccaneers (+13)
Broncos (+13)
Jaguars (+13)
Raiders (+13)
Current total: 320


CoreySamson
Falcons (+20)
Bears (+20)
Giants (+20)
Panthers (+20)
Jaguars (+20)
Current total: 100


hobsini2
Jets (+20)
Texans (+20)
Jaguars (+20)
Steelers (+20)
Broncos (+20)
Commanders (+20)
Giants (+20)
Panthers (+20)
Falcons (+20)
Saints (+20)
Lions (+20)
Current total: 220

Henry
Bears (+10)
Broncos (+10)
Browns (+10)
Jaguars (+10)
Lions (+10)
Panthers (+10)
Raiders (+10)
Rams (+10)
Saints (+10)
Steelers (+10)
Texans (+10)
Bengals (+10)
Cardinals (+10)
Chargers (+10)
Colts (+10)
Commanders (+10)
Falcons (+10)
Panthers (+10)
Current total: 180

[webny99]

Deal. Put me in for Atlanta, Houston, both NY teams, and Chicago. And Detroit if we can do repeats of other forum members' selections.

Yes, repeats are allowed.

And one final thing I forgot to add: if you haven't forked 18 teams by the start of week 17, you will be docked 30 points for every missing team (i.e. if you only do 16 you'll lose 60 points).

I think that's necessary because otherwise people can just fork the teams that are obviously going to miss out and leave the close ones untouched so as to guarantee no wrong forks. And that's boring.

Concur with that. The spirit of the game is to go out on a limb and make some tough choices.

We might need a table or some way to keep track, unless everyone just keeps track of their own.

Now that we've got several people in this, I'll make a table to keep track, which I'll update at the end of every points period...

Edit: Wow, that was good timing. Sounds good!

[CoreySamson]

Put me down for the Falcons, Bears, Giants, Browns, Panthers, and Jaguars.

[thspfc]

Put me down for the Falcons, Bears, Giants, Browns, Panthers, and Jaguars.

Edited you into the table.

[Ted$8roadFan]

So....the Arizona Cardinals gave a guaranteed $160m to Kyler Murray, but included a proviso that he spend four hours per week on film study. A very odd situation.

[webny99]

So....the Arizona Cardinals gave a guaranteed $160m to Kyler Murray, but included a proviso that he spend four hours per week on film study. A very odd situation.

Yikes. Not good really for either side that that got leaked, but especially Kyler. This is going to stick to him for a long time unless he wins a Super Bowl (and the Cardinals' roster is not that great, so that's probably not going to happen in the next few years...)

[Ted$8roadFan]

Training camp has begun for the 2022 season.

[thspfc]

And now Arizona removed the homework clause lol. Honestly, removing it after causing a media stir is even worse than including it in the first place.

[Ted$8roadFan]

Talk about making a bad situation worse I'd love to be a fly on the wall in that locker room

[thspfc]

Watson suspended a whole 6 games.

Calvin Ridley got 16 games for betting on games he wasn't even involved in. And I'm not saying that Ridley shouldn't have been suspended; betting is a serious offense for a player and it can't happen. But I don't understand how Watson doesn't get a longer suspension than Ridley.

Perhaps most egregious is that Zeke got 6 games for ONE ACCUSATION that wasn't even true.

For an AFC team, Cleveland's schedule is stupidly easy to start the year. Even with Brissett or whoever else starting the first 6, they shouldn't be worse than 3-3.

[webny99]

No comment on the suspension length other than I'm not shocked as I figured it would be less than a year. But I must say, the back loading of Cleveland's schedule was probably intentional. Not exactly a gauntlet to get through before Watson returns.