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Re: NASCAR
« Reply #225 on: November 07, 2022, 02:48:40 PM »

You mean I'm the first to mention Ross Chastain's "balls to the wall" move at Martinsville to get by Denny Hamlin and into the championship?

I'm becoming a Chastain fan, and I'm not a fan of Hamlin's, so I loved that move.

I was good with Logano winning the championship, but I was rooting for Chastain. I'm just glad Elliott didn't win. I haven't been a fan of his since he dissed Harvick last year.

And I'm genuinely curious what happened to Coy Gibbs. My guess is a massive heart attack. I had a friend who unexpectedly died of a massive heart attack who was younger than Gibbs.
Oh I didn't know about Elliott dissing Harvick. But anyway, I was hoping anybody but Joey would win the championship but oh well. Hamlin always comes close but never wins.
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Re: NASCAR
« Reply #226 on: November 09, 2022, 02:48:27 PM »

I happened to see the final laps of the Xfinity race at Martinsville and saw Ty Gibbs knock his teammate into wall for the win. It was hilarious hearing the crowd booing during his interview. :-D

As someone new to NASCAR, how far do you have to push your luck to get a penalty? That move seemed very blatant, but I didn't hear any talk of penalizing it.
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Re: NASCAR
« Reply #227 on: November 09, 2022, 03:20:11 PM »

I happened to see the final laps of the Xfinity race at Martinsville and saw Ty Gibbs knock his teammate into wall for the win. It was hilarious hearing the crowd booing during his interview. :-D

As someone new to NASCAR, how far do you have to push your luck to get a penalty? That move seemed very blatant, but I didn't hear any talk of penalizing it.

Usually it has to be pushed to the point where someone overtly takes out another driver.  Bumping into someone or push into them on a short track likely isn’t going to be enough to warrant a penalty.  There is a more famous example of this when Dale Earnhardt bumped (and wrecked) Terry Labonte to win a race at Bristol. 

NASCAR is historically very resistant to taking wins away even if there is some sort of outright cheating is detected.  I’m to understand the idea is that it is better to have the fan base know who the winner is and not end up changing it later.  Usually only points penalties about the worst that will happen. 
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Re: NASCAR
« Reply #228 on: November 09, 2022, 03:22:49 PM »

Jeff Gordon went to high school at a neighboring district to my wife's, so he's the reason I started following NASCAR. By extension, I've always been a Hendrick fan first. Beyond that, Tony Stewart is from Indiana so SHR is my second favorite, followed by any other Chevy team.

Penske and Gibbs are the lowest for me. Never want to see them win, though I do like Denny Hamlin a bit.
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Re: NASCAR
« Reply #229 on: November 10, 2022, 11:12:20 AM »

As someone new to NASCAR, how far do you have to push your luck to get a penalty? That move seemed very blatant, but I didn't hear any talk of penalizing it.

I think you have to either 1) kill someone 2) SpinGate 3) engine irregularity caught you this week, to get penalized.

It's to the point where bumping a competitor you can't pass on the track is encouraged, because the assumption is that you'll just get them the next time around, like a TV/movie plot. Part of it is normal - like any motorsports - especially on a short-track...rubbing's part of racing is kind of an essential part of the sport because otherwise it would be a procession. And that's okay; accidents and mistakes do happen, but when a driver just rage-quits into a win is too much like a video game. I don't care much if "it was revenge for the ____ race" excuses. A bullshit win is a bullshit win. To the audience, a little chaos makes things interesting.

On the other hand, it's better than F1s half-assed penalty system:

Performed a jump start? 30 second penalty.
Take out you competitor? We'll add on 5-10 seconds.
Also, it's not your fault your engine/transmission blew up, but here...take a 5-place grid penalty.

But that's for another thread.
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Re: NASCAR
« Reply #230 on: November 10, 2022, 01:16:01 PM »

Putting the bumper to someone for the win, or to gain a position, is pretty much accepted behavior.

It has to be very blatantly retaliatory, such as Kenseth coming back on track to wreck Logano at Martinsville several years ago; or Wallace taking out Larson a couple of weeks ago; before any penalties are levied.

Earnhardt, to my knowledge, never really got too upset if someone used the chrome horn on him for the win. Mayfield did it to him at Pocono one year and I don't remember Earnhardt getting mad about it.
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Re: NASCAR
« Reply #231 on: November 10, 2022, 07:25:33 PM »

Putting the bumper to someone for the win, or to gain a position, is pretty much accepted behavior.

It has to be very blatantly retaliatory, such as Kenseth coming back on track to wreck Logano at Martinsville several years ago; or Wallace taking out Larson a couple of weeks ago; before any penalties are levied.

Earnhardt, to my knowledge, never really got too upset if someone used the chrome horn on him for the win. Mayfield did it to him at Pocono one year and I don't remember Earnhardt getting mad about it.

It's still accepted behavior. The issue with Ty Gibbs is that Brandon Jones was his teammate and needed to win to make the championship four. Gibbs was already locked into the championship four, so he had no reason to wreck Jones - the crowd mostly knew this, so that's why the move was unpopular. Any punishment would probably have come from JGR, but given that it's Ty Gibbs, it was horribly unlikely that anything would happen. Brandon Jones was the better man in the end for not wrecking Gibbs the following week at Phoenix (he had several opportunities).
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Re: NASCAR
« Reply #232 on: November 11, 2022, 06:56:18 AM »

Jeff Gordon went to high school at a neighboring district to my wife's, so he's the reason I started following NASCAR. By extension, I've always been a Hendrick fan first. Beyond that, Tony Stewart is from Indiana so SHR is my second favorite, followed by any other Chevy team.

Penske and Gibbs are the lowest for me. Never want to see them win, though I do like Denny Hamlin a bit.

I got into it when one of my paternal uncles worked at DuPont in Wilmington when Jeff was really good. I've gone on to become a Ford and Penske fan.
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