AARoads Forum

National Boards => General Highway Talk => Topic started by: KCRoadFan on January 16, 2022, 11:49:15 PM

Title: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: KCRoadFan on January 16, 2022, 11:49:15 PM
For me, this is post number 555, which, as we all know, is that special telephone exchange set aside for use in movies, TV shows, or other fictional media. I figured, then, that I would ask this question: are there any road numbers, or ranges of numbers, that receive a similar treatment - that is, do any states have a set of numbers that they reserve for fictional use because the state, for one reason or another, wouldn't assign that number in real life? I very much doubt it, but at least it's worth taking a look.
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: SkyPesos on January 16, 2022, 11:55:06 PM
A bit more specific than what you're looking for, but a US highway shield with the number "66" is mainly for fictional and nostalgic use nowadays.

And maybe even I-1, as I've mentioned in the "interstate numbers that will likely be never used" thread, there's no way there would be an I-1 in reality with CA 1 existing in the same path of a hypothetical I-1.
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: LilianaUwU on January 17, 2022, 12:07:18 AM
While not exactly set aside, many states will shy away from having routes numbered 69, 420 and 666, and some agencies did renumber such routes.
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: hotdogPi on January 17, 2022, 06:46:15 AM
Massachusetts doesn't have a 45, 50, or 55 because they could be confused with speed limits. (It has a 40, for which 40 mph is reasonable, and a 60, for which 60 mph is not.)
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: MATraveler128 on January 17, 2022, 07:31:45 AM
Quote from: 1 on January 17, 2022, 06:46:15 AM
Massachusetts doesn't have a 45, 50, or 55 because they could be confused with speed limits. (It has a 40, for which 40 mph is reasonable, and a 60, for which 60 mph is not.)

There is also no 65 either.
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: Henry on January 17, 2022, 10:11:46 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on January 17, 2022, 12:07:18 AM
While not exactly set aside, many states will shy away from having routes numbered 69, 420 and 666, and some agencies did renumber such routes.
What about 13? I feel that some states would have an aversion to this as well, aside from those that already have one running through them (e.g. US 13 in the Mid-Atlantic).
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: formulanone on January 17, 2022, 10:17:06 AM
The MUTCD (https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/pdfs/2009r1r2/part2e.pdf) section on Guide Signs has some fictional example numbers (I-47, I-36, US 38, I-203, I-473, US 798) along with some in-use numbers (I-80, US 50, various state routes).

I-42 became a Future Interstate since the 2009 Edition.

Quote from: Henry on January 17, 2022, 10:11:46 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on January 17, 2022, 12:07:18 AM
While not exactly set aside, many states will shy away from having routes numbered 69, 420 and 666, and some agencies did renumber such routes.
What about 13? I feel that some states would have an aversion to this as well, aside from those that already have one running through them (e.g. US 13 in the Mid-Atlantic).

I'm actually kind of surprised more states didn't avoid using 13, due to superstitions. I believe there will never be an I-13, unless some local think tank really lobbies hard for that number.
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: Max Rockatansky on January 17, 2022, 10:56:46 AM
Quote from: LilianaUwU on January 17, 2022, 12:07:18 AM
While not exactly set aside, many states will shy away from having routes numbered 69, 420 and 666, and some agencies did renumber such routes.

The strange thing is that I never found I-69 and AZ 69 were particularly theft prone when I lived near those highways.  Then I come out here to California and find that CA 69 was stolen out existence likely due to how remote it is:

https://www.cahighways.org/ROUTE069.html

One of those shields did hit eBay.  It was the only sign I've ever bid over $200 dollars for and I still lost. 
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: kenarmy on January 17, 2022, 11:13:13 AM
I don't really think MS does this, however, they did renumber MS 10, MS 20, MS 55, and MS 59 due to nearby interstates. There is a MS 69, MS 333, MS 444, MS 555, MS 777, MS 888 and I say this because people LOVE angel numbers nowadays. US 11's route hasn't changed much, so it doesn't have a 111 like most of the other US routes. And the only 200 number is 245 for an old routing of US 45 ALT. If there was a 420 and a 666 they would likely be unsigned just because.
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: SEWIGuy on January 17, 2022, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: kenarmy on January 17, 2022, 11:13:13 AM
I don't really think MS does this, however, they did renumber MS 10, MS 20, MS 55, and MS 59 due to nearby interstates. There is a MS 69, MS 333, MS 444, MS 555, MS 777, MS 888 and I say this because people LOVE angel numbers nowadays. US 11's route hasn't changed much, so it doesn't have a 111 like most of the other US routes. And the only 200 number is 245 for an old routing of US 45 ALT. If there was a 420 and a 666 they would likely be unsigned just because.


What is an "angel number?"
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: MATraveler128 on January 17, 2022, 11:46:12 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on January 17, 2022, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: kenarmy on January 17, 2022, 11:13:13 AM
I don't really think MS does this, however, they did renumber MS 10, MS 20, MS 55, and MS 59 due to nearby interstates. There is a MS 69, MS 333, MS 444, MS 555, MS 777, MS 888 and I say this because people LOVE angel numbers nowadays. US 11's route hasn't changed much, so it doesn't have a 111 like most of the other US routes. And the only 200 number is 245 for an old routing of US 45 ALT. If there was a 420 and a 666 they would likely be unsigned just because.


What is an "angel number?"

Just Googled this, an angel number is a number that is intended to get a divine message to you to help you through troubling times. That being said, I don't get it either.
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: hotdogPi on January 17, 2022, 11:48:10 AM
I've wondered the same thing myself. I keep seeing it in Google search suggestions, but the list of angel numbers is not on OEIS (http://oeis.org), Wikipedia, or anything similar.
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: GaryV on January 17, 2022, 01:05:52 PM
Quote from: Henry on January 17, 2022, 10:11:46 AM
What about 13?
Michigan liked M-13 so well that after US-131 replaced the original M-13, it got reused twice.  First for a short while in St Clair County, and then in the Flint / Saginaw / Bay City area, including later replacing a section of US-23 when the freeway was built.
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: kenarmy on January 17, 2022, 01:19:43 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on January 17, 2022, 11:46:12 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on January 17, 2022, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: kenarmy on January 17, 2022, 11:13:13 AM
I don't really think MS does this, however, they did renumber MS 10, MS 20, MS 55, and MS 59 due to nearby interstates. There is a MS 69, MS 333, MS 444, MS 555, MS 777, MS 888 and I say this because people LOVE angel numbers nowadays. US 11's route hasn't changed much, so it doesn't have a 111 like most of the other US routes. And the only 200 number is 245 for an old routing of US 45 ALT. If there was a 420 and a 666 they would likely be unsigned just because.


What is an "angel number?"

Just Googled this, an angel number is a number that is intended to get a divine message to you to help you through troubling times. That being said, I don't get it either.
angel numbers are 111, 222, 333, 444, and etc.. And I'm just saying they've become more popular lately. People put them in bios and even get it tattooed on them. And yes people put them in their rooms.
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: Scott5114 on January 17, 2022, 02:25:25 PM
I seem to recall that the UK has some motorway number reserved for TV shows to use in works of fiction, so that fictional accidents don't get associated with a real road and make them reluctant to drive on it (I would hope that wouldn't be something people would actually do).

There's also the M96, which is a section of disused runway that was built up to motorway standards and is used to train firefighters in rescue operations. It has signs and everything, but is of course closed to actual traffic (not that you would get very far on it anyway).
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: formulanone on January 17, 2022, 03:28:21 PM
Quote from: kenarmy on January 17, 2022, 01:19:43 PM
Quote from: BlueOutback7 on January 17, 2022, 11:46:12 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on January 17, 2022, 11:29:34 AM
Quote from: kenarmy on January 17, 2022, 11:13:13 AM
I don't really think MS does this, however, they did renumber MS 10, MS 20, MS 55, and MS 59 due to nearby interstates. There is a MS 69, MS 333, MS 444, MS 555, MS 777, MS 888 and I say this because people LOVE angel numbers nowadays. US 11's route hasn't changed much, so it doesn't have a 111 like most of the other US routes. And the only 200 number is 245 for an old routing of US 45 ALT. If there was a 420 and a 666 they would likely be unsigned just because.


What is an "angel number?"

Just Googled this, an angel number is a number that is intended to get a divine message to you to help you through troubling times. That being said, I don't get it either.
angel numbers are 111, 222, 333, 444, and etc.. And I'm just saying they've become more popular lately. People put them in bios and even get it tattooed on them. And yes people put them in their rooms.

I believe angel numbers appear to me magically, approximately once for every one hundred eleven times I look for them.  :-D
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: Scott5114 on January 17, 2022, 07:04:59 PM
Quote from: kenarmy on January 17, 2022, 01:19:43 PM
angel numbers are 111, 222, 333, 444, and etc.. And I'm just saying they've become more popular lately. People put them in bios and even get it tattooed on them. And yes people put them in their rooms.

So any number divisible by 111 is an angel number?

so 6 × 111 would be an angel number too, right?
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: SkyPesos on January 17, 2022, 07:08:38 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2022, 07:04:59 PM
Quote from: kenarmy on January 17, 2022, 01:19:43 PM
angel numbers are 111, 222, 333, 444, and etc.. And I'm just saying they've become more popular lately. People put them in bios and even get it tattooed on them. And yes people put them in their rooms.

So any number divisible by 111 is an angel number?

so 6 × 111 would be an angel number too, right?
apparently, yes (https://www.google.com/search?q=is+666+an+angel+number&sxsrf=AOaemvKLXDTdn947SpSFRFquCqMNxx4u4Q%3A1642464479352&source=hp&ei=3wTmYfyDEpDdtAai4r_QCQ&iflsig=ALs-wAMAAAAAYeYS78aG9zw-sanaRJpBdh5rpfl_jr_T&ved=0ahUKEwi87-D-gLr1AhWQLs0KHSLxD5oQ4dUDCAo&uact=5&oq=is+666+an+angel+number&gs_lcp=Cgdnd3Mtd2l6EAMyBQgAEIAEMgUIABCABDIFCAAQhgM6BAgjECc6CwgAEIAEELEDEIMBOgsILhCABBCxAxCDAToLCC4QgAQQxwEQrwE6DgguEIAEELEDEMcBEKMCOggIABCABBCxAzoFCC4QgAQ6CAguEIAEELEDOg4IABCABBCxAxCDARDJAzoICAAQsQMQgwE6CAgAEIAEEMkDOgYIABAWEB46CAgAEBYQChAeUABYoxFg9xJoAHAAeACAAW-IAbQQkgEEMTYuNpgBAKABAQ&sclient=gws-wiz)
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: Big John on January 17, 2022, 07:25:26 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2022, 07:04:59 PM
Quote from: kenarmy on January 17, 2022, 01:19:43 PM
angel numbers are 111, 222, 333, 444, and etc.. And I'm just saying they've become more popular lately. People put them in bios and even get it tattooed on them. And yes people put them in their rooms.

So any number divisible by 111 is an angel number?

so 6 × 111 would be an angel number too, right?
Dark angel?
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: NE2 on January 17, 2022, 09:01:46 PM
No. But there is TX 1 (http://www.dot.state.tx.us/tpp/hwy/sh/sh0001.htm):
QuoteNOTE:  THIS STATE HIGHWAY NUMBER MAY ONLY BE ASSIGNED BY THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OR THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION.
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: jp the roadgeek on January 17, 2022, 09:11:02 PM
Quote from: 1 on January 17, 2022, 06:46:15 AM
Massachusetts doesn't have a 45, 50, or 55 because they could be confused with speed limits. (It has a 40, for which 40 mph is reasonable, and a 60, for which 60 mph is not.)

In CT, CT 40 has a 55 MPH speed limit, and CT 55 has a 40 MPH speed limit. And yes, a good portion of CT 45 has a 45 MPH limit.
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: frankenroad on January 18, 2022, 03:41:42 PM
Ohio does have OH-13, OH-420, and OH-666.   I am not aware of any superstitions and/or sign thefts as a result.

There is no OH-69, except in my fictional map of Ohio.  I chose 69 simply because it was the lowest unused route number at the time, other than the on-again off-again hidden OH-1.
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: SkyPesos on January 18, 2022, 04:17:53 PM
Related thread from a while ago: renumberings due to sign theft of route numbers like 69, 420 and 66

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=11277.25
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: thspfc on January 18, 2022, 11:00:42 PM
I-366
Title: Re: Are there any road numbers specifically set aside for fictional use?
Post by: I-55 on January 19, 2022, 02:38:54 PM
Quote from: Big John on January 17, 2022, 07:25:26 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on January 17, 2022, 07:04:59 PM
Quote from: kenarmy on January 17, 2022, 01:19:43 PM
angel numbers are 111, 222, 333, 444, and etc.. And I'm just saying they've become more popular lately. People put them in bios and even get it tattooed on them. And yes people put them in their rooms.

So any number divisible by 111 is an angel number?

so 6 × 111 would be an angel number too, right?
Dark angel?

Technically yes.