Longest Interstate You Haven't Been On

[US 89]

As far as I'm concerned, the West ends and the Midwest begins at US 83.

[Rothman]

Hmmm...

Midwest = OH, IN, IL, MI, WI, MN...

Great Plains = IA, KS, OK, NE, SD, ND

No one knows what MO is.  But, it has Ozarks, so it's the South.

[NWI_Irish96]

Poll on people's opinion per state:

Source article: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-states-are-in-the-midwest/

How do 19% of Americans not consider Illinois to be part of the Midwest?

[Rothman]

Poll on people's opinion per state:

Source article: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-states-are-in-the-midwest/

How do 19% of Americans not consider Illinois to be part of the Midwest?

They can't find it on the map to begin with.

[Max Rockatansky]

Poll on people's opinion per state:

Source article: https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-states-are-in-the-midwest/

How do 19% of Americans not consider Illinois to be part of the Midwest?

Who would associate such mountainous splendor with anything flat like the Midwest?

[golden eagle]

I-25. I've been on all of the "5" mainline interstates except for 25 and 45.

[Scott5114]

Any state categorization that puts Kansas and Missouri in separate regions is broken.

[hotdogPi]

Any state categorization that puts Kansas and Missouri in separate regions is broken.

US 81 is a dividing line for quite a lot of things, such as population density and rainfall. This means that the majority of Kansas's population lives on the Missouri side, but not the majority of its land area.

[CtrlAltDel]

How do 19% of Americans not consider Illinois to be part of the Midwest?

Chicago, maybe? It's in the Midwest but not always looked at as part of it.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

Culturally, insisting the Plains are not the Midwest makes zero sense. MN/WI/eastern ND/eastern SD are inseparable from each other culturally. IA and NE are inseparable. MO and KS are inseparable.

[Rothman]

Any state categorization that puts Kansas and Missouri in separate regions is broken.

Pfft.  Naaaaaah.

[Rothman]

Culturally, insisting the Plains are not the Midwest makes zero sense. MN/WI/eastern ND/eastern SD are inseparable from each other culturally. IA and NE are inseparable. MO and KS are inseparable.

MO has Ozarks.

[Scott5114]

Any state categorization that puts Kansas and Missouri in separate regions is broken.

Pfft.  Naaaaaah.

Get thee to Kansas City and try again.

Culturally, insisting the Plains are not the Midwest makes zero sense. MN/WI/eastern ND/eastern SD are inseparable from each other culturally. IA and NE are inseparable. MO and KS are inseparable.

MO has Ozarks.

So does OK.

[Scott5114]

Any state categorization that puts Kansas and Missouri in separate regions is broken.

US 81 is a dividing line for quite a lot of things, such as population density and rainfall. This means that the majority of Kansas's population lives on the Missouri side, but not the majority of its land area.

Yeah, but state boundaries are drawn by humans and don't often reflect physical geographic boundaries... So if you're going to use state boundaries to divide the country up, it only makes sense to divide them culturally.

[Rothman]

Any state categorization that puts Kansas and Missouri in separate regions is broken.

Pfft.  Naaaaaah.

Get thee to Kansas City and try again.

Kansas City, KS is a different world from Kansas City, MO and neither are the totality of either state.

Culturally, insisting the Plains are not the Midwest makes zero sense. MN/WI/eastern ND/eastern SD are inseparable from each other culturally. IA and NE are inseparable. MO and KS are inseparable.

MO has Ozarks.

So does OK.

Pfft.  Not like MO and AR.  OK is flat.

[US 89]

Any state categorization that puts Kansas and Missouri in separate regions is broken.

Pfft.  Naaaaaah.

Get thee to Kansas City and try again.

Kansas City, KS is a different world from Kansas City, MO and neither are the totality of either state.

Culturally, insisting the Plains are not the Midwest makes zero sense. MN/WI/eastern ND/eastern SD are inseparable from each other culturally. IA and NE are inseparable. MO and KS are inseparable.

MO has Ozarks.

So does OK.

Pfft.  Not like MO and AR.  OK is flat.

Says the guy who has done nothing off of I-40 in Oklahoma, if you're who I think you are on mob-rule. Oklahoma is far more diverse than I-40 west of OKC. I-40 has some gentle hills east of OKC. Tulsa has legit hills. And that's to say nothing of the Ouachitas, the Wichitas, or the stuff around Black Mesa.

[Scott5114]

Any state categorization that puts Kansas and Missouri in separate regions is broken.

Pfft.  Naaaaaah.

Get thee to Kansas City and try again.

Kansas City, KS is a different world from Kansas City, MO and neither are the totality of either state.

This is statement is so hilariously wrong I have half a mind to check to see whether HighwayStar hacked your account.

[Rothman]

Any state categorization that puts Kansas and Missouri in separate regions is broken.

Pfft.  Naaaaaah.

Get thee to Kansas City and try again.

Kansas City, KS is a different world from Kansas City, MO and neither are the totality of either state.

This is statement is so hilariously wrong I have half a mind to check to see whether HighwayStar hacked your account.

I'm not wrong, you're wrong.

Oh wait:  Kansas City, MO is the mirror of Chicago.

[Scott5114]

Any state categorization that puts Kansas and Missouri in separate regions is broken.

Pfft.  Naaaaaah.

Get thee to Kansas City and try again.

Kansas City, KS is a different world from Kansas City, MO and neither are the totality of either state.

This is statement is so hilariously wrong I have half a mind to check to see whether HighwayStar hacked your account.

I'm not wrong, you're wrong.

Oh wait:  Kansas City, MO is the mirror of Chicago.

If that's the case, Missouri is flat.

[Rothman]

Any state categorization that puts Kansas and Missouri in separate regions is broken.

Pfft.  Naaaaaah.

Get thee to Kansas City and try again.

Kansas City, KS is a different world from Kansas City, MO and neither are the totality of either state.

This is statement is so hilariously wrong I have half a mind to check to see whether HighwayStar hacked your account.

I'm not wrong, you're wrong.

Oh wait:  Kansas City, MO is the mirror of Chicago.

If that's the case, Missouri is flat.

Little bit.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

Coasters: The Plains are not the Midwest.

Midwesterners: Yes they are.

Coasters: No they're not.

Midwesterners: ...

Coasters: NO THEY'RE NOT!!!!!!!!!!

[CtrlAltDel]

Coasters: The Plains are not the Midwest.

Midwesterners: Yes they are.

Coasters: No they're not.

Midwesterners: ...

Coasters: NO THEY'RE NOT!!!!!!!!!!

I'm from the Midwest, and they're not.

[hotdogPi]

In Kansas and Nebraska, anything in green in the first map is part of the Midwest, while anything in orange isn't. To make things simpler, SD/ND/MN follows the state line (MN is, and SD and ND aren't). Oklahoma follows the same rules as Kansas and Nebraska if you don't consider it part of the South.

Now look at the second map, and where the second darkest green begins. Pretty much the same line.

[webny99]

I'm from the Midwest, and they're not.

If central Texas is the Midwest... that's a whole other debate. 

(I am in the "Great Plains are a subset of the Midwest" camp, by the way.)

[webny99]

In Kansas and Nebraska, anything in green in the first map is part of the Midwest, while anything in orange isn't. To make things simpler, SD/ND/MN follows the state line (MN is, and SD and ND aren't). Oklahoma follows the same rules as Kansas and Nebraska if you don't consider it part of the South.

Now look at the second map, and where the second darkest green begins. Pretty much the same line.

Would a separate "Great Plains" region also exist under this definition? My main issue with it is that I'm not sure what the Dakotas are if not the Midwest. They're even more Midwestern than Nebraska/Kansas IMO. In fact, I would submit that the Dakotas embody the "Great Plains" subset of the Midwest (and are the strongest evidence that such a subset exists) both culturally and geographically.