are freeways in rural areas good with 10,000 AADT?

Started by tolbs17, February 18, 2022, 11:31:56 AM

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What are you guys's opinions

Yes
4 (44.4%)
No
3 (33.3%)
Don't care
2 (22.2%)

Total Members Voted: 9

tolbs17

There is US-64 between Plymouth and Columbia NC. Under 5,000 AADT but is much higher during peak months and is useful for evacuation traffic.

US-64 east of Tarboro to Williamston is also a freeway. Has roughly 10,000 AADT and was built between 1996 and 2003.

US-70 between Dover and New Bern also 10,000 AADT.


webny99

I'm not sure exactly what you mean by asking if freeways are "good" with 10,000 AADT.

If you mean "Is a freeway needed for a corridor with 10K AADT?" -  the answer is not necessarily. An expressway or even a two-lane road with passing lanes can handle that type of volume.

1995hoo

It doesn't matter. It's North Carolina. They're probably trying to figure out a way to run an Interstate down the Outer Banks.
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tolbs17

Quote from: webny99 on February 18, 2022, 11:38:48 AM
If you mean "Is a freeway needed for a corridor with 10K AADT?" -  the answer is not necessarily. An expressway or even a two-lane road with passing lanes can handle that type of volume.
Yes.

Quote from: 1995hoo on February 18, 2022, 11:42:14 AM
It doesn't matter. It's North Carolina. They're probably trying to figure out a way to run an Interstate down the Outer Banks.
An interstate is not planned to run from Williamston to the Outer Banks as of right now.

The only realistic interstate that will happen is I-42. Nothing else has been heard.

kurumi

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What are you guys's opinions

Are y'all really from North Carolina?  :-)

I've thought it would be fun to apply that guideline to every state highway in CT (outside city center) with AADT > 10K: make it into a freeway or at least 4-lane divided. Large parts of CT 70, 80, 85, etc.
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tolbs17

Quote from: kurumi on February 18, 2022, 12:15:35 PM
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What are you guys's opinions

Are y'all really from North Carolina?  :-)

I've thought it would be fun to apply that guideline to every state highway in CT (outside city center) with AADT > 10K: make it into a freeway or at least 4-lane divided. Large parts of CT 70, 80, 85, etc.
I've lived in Greenville since 2008 so yes.

Henry

Of course! Because after all, they have rural freeways out west with a traffic flow under 10,000, and they get along just fine.
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Quote from: Henry on February 18, 2022, 02:27:37 PM
Of course! Because after all, they have rural freeways out west with a traffic flow under 10,000, and they get along just fine.

There's no reason to remove them once they're built, but the question is whether new ones should be built or not.
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tolbs17

Quote from: 1 on February 18, 2022, 02:28:30 PM
Quote from: Henry on February 18, 2022, 02:27:37 PM
Of course! Because after all, they have rural freeways out west with a traffic flow under 10,000, and they get along just fine.

There's no reason to remove them once they're built, but the question is whether new ones should be built or not.
One is planned for Ahoskie which is scheduled to begin in 2029. It will be a 4-lane freeway and part of the reason they considered it is because of the high number of accidents. Elsewhere will be a 4-lane highway.

For any need of freeway which is definite, I say NC-11 from Greenville to Kinston or US-264 from Greenville to Washington. Both roughly carry 20,000 AADT and NCDOT is analyzing full freeways for those.

US-74 and US-70 need to be freeways with no question. Both serve major corridors and are currently being upgraded.

Max Rockatansky

If they end up being built for some reason I don't see why they would be "bad."  

SkyPesos

OH 11: built when Youngstown and Ashtabula were more significant cities in the state than today, now have an AADT as low as 4k in some sections.



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